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TinyMage 07-14-2005 04:43 PM

I have played many parties with a mage, mostly dual classed mages.

In all the time I have played this game I never played a sorcerer, But just recently I decided to try it out.

I was under the impression that a sorcerer got to cast as many spells as he could memorize, for as many times as his level allowed.

I found out that a sorcerer can only cast a set number of times from a certain spell LEVEL! I thought if he had 6 magic missles and 6 chromatic orbs he could cast a total of 12 spells, when in reality he can only cast 6 of either or both combined.

How is this any better then a mage? A mage can only cast a set number of times from a spell level as well. If you want to use 6 magic missles, you memorize 6 magic missles, or if you want to cast 3 magic missles and 3 orbs you memorize 3 magic missles and 3 orbs. Its no different then a sorcerer casting 3 orbs and 3 missles, he has the same limitations.

The only difference I see is the sorcerer gets a few more spell castings at the higher levels.

But then there are the many sorcerer downsides, no dual classing, and of course limited spells.

I guess you could make a case for the sorcerer being a lot more flexible in realtime, since he can choose from any spell in his spellbook. But usually I already know what spells I will be using the most and just memorize a set selection.

Still, I don't see how they are more powerfull then mages, and they fall far behind a dual classed mage.

GoblinZ 07-14-2005 04:53 PM

Well, iŽll just be adding this one point for the sorcerer:

If you skip the mages and only get a sorcerer (or more from a mod), youŽll be reaping up more than a ton of profits as a scroll salesman. ^^

shamrock_uk 07-14-2005 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TinyMage:
How is this any better then a mage? A mage can only cast a set number of times from a spell level as well.
The difference being that, for the mage, the number is less.

Quote:

The only difference I see is the sorcerer gets a few more spell castings at the higher levels.
You'd be surprised at the difference another 3 time stops makes... ;)

Illumina Drathiran'ar 07-14-2005 05:10 PM

In addition to more spell castings, the sorcerer has more freedom. Instead of memorizing, say, one Invisibility spell just in case, you have it there if you need it. Instead of clearing your level-1 spell list every time you need to Identify a bunch of items, you can just identify them. I find that I only memorize two or three different spells per level anyway, so why not just pick the spells I know I'm going to cast and get them whenever I want?

Assassin 07-14-2005 05:42 PM

And just how many different spells do your Mages cast? Usually, there are a maximum of 5 or so (probably even less) spells that are consistently memorized on a daily basis. In those cases, a Sorcerer's limitation isn't that great. In the situations where an unusual spell is needed (ie: Familiar, Protection from Fire), then a scroll will usually work fine.

Lord 07-14-2005 08:07 PM

there are so many spells that you have in your spell book that you rarely use, like Illumina said. And Assassin is also right in saying that you could always use scrolls if you need them.

But a sorceror is no joke. Imagine having 6 ADHW at your disposal if you ever needed it. Solo a mage and then solo a sorc...you will notice a huge difference.

Neo the Warrior Cat 07-14-2005 11:08 PM

Also, sorcerors are godly for Spell Sequencer/Trigger potential.

But, take another mage with you, to get the support spells you'll be wanting.

Sir Goulum 07-14-2005 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord:
there are so many spells that you have in your spell book that you rarely use, like Illumina said. And Assassin is also right in saying that you could always use scrolls if you need them.

But a sorceror is no joke. Imagine having 6 ADHW at your disposal if you ever needed it. Solo a mage and then solo a sorc...you will notice a huge difference.

I'm likely just tired/stupid right now, but what is ADHW?

Sillara of the Tamari 07-14-2005 11:30 PM

Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting.


Sillara

Sir Goulum 07-14-2005 11:38 PM

Ah-hh... right. Thanks! [img]smile.gif[/img]


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