This has the potential to be a good fight, who would win? Irenicus has the magic, but Phoenix has the telekinisis/telepathy.

Depends, are we talking Comic book Phoenix, cartoon Phoenix, or Movie Phoenix..

And are we talking about "normal" Jonny Boy or Improved one?

Comic book Phoenix, and Improved Jonny boy.

Paul Atreides would kick Luke Skywalker's ass!

But Leato Would kick all of their asses as you put it.

Rocky Balboa would kill them all, and have time for a training montage, but that doesn't answer the question: Comic book Phoenix versus Improved Jonny.

[ 02-26-2005, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]

Also depends on which version of comic book Pheonix.

If you're talking about the original Jean Grey-Pheonix from the early days of the "new" X-Men starting at issue 101 up to about issue 137, then this Pheonix would kick JonBoy's ass in her sleep. For god's sakes, she wiped out entire stars! What's one annoying evil mage compared to that?

What's the other version like Magness?

Slightly less then that, eventually getting her ass handed to her by a villain.