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Peter Parker 09-10-2004 09:00 PM

Dear god, what would it look like?

Hivetyrant 09-10-2004 09:10 PM

Very Charismatic??? :D
What about a Half-Orc with 25 charisma??

Hank Parsons 09-10-2004 09:31 PM

It would look like a compelling leader, well loved by his followers.

shadowhound 09-10-2004 11:29 PM

I just cant imagine a supermodel Dwarf or Half-Orc :D

Shadow015 09-11-2004 12:19 AM

Korgan in a Victoria's Secret commercial.

Moon-Child_Lman 09-11-2004 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shadow015:
Korgan in a Victoria's Secret commercial.
lol, that would be a sight [img]smile.gif[/img] . A dwarf with 25 charisma sounds plausible, but a half-orc with 25 charisma must be a FREAK OF NATURE, or mutant, or enchanted, or he has elven ancestors, or mother nature played a joke on him, lol that would be a very memorable sight indeed ;) .

Ivelliis 09-11-2004 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shadow015:
Korgan in a Victoria's Secret commercial.
how about Korgan in Viconia's Secrets commercial ;)
*sorry, couldn't resist that bad joke about more BG NPC's*

Xen 09-11-2004 09:23 AM

Oh God. What a wird post. :rolleyes:
It would look charismatic I think.

vesselle 09-12-2004 08:06 PM

hrmmm. you know what i don't get?
why all half orcs are assumed to be humongous horrible looking beasts.
there's no reason why a half orc couldn't for all intents and purposes look nearly 100% like his non-orc parent. we see this every day in the real world. well, okay, not the orc part, but all kinds of racial combinations. my half japanese, half german cousins are extremely varied. from one with red hair, freckles, and pale white skin to another who looks full japanese, except for her hapa-haole green eyes.
[img]tongue.gif[/img]

anyway, i'd say a half orc with 25 charisma most likely would look nothin' like an orc, except for maybe a whiff of something. and in her case, that whiff of something might be extremely attractive, even commanding interest from those nearest her.

V***V

Cerek 09-12-2004 09:30 PM

<font color=plum>Charisma is not just a measure of a physical attractiveness. It is a combination of physical appearance, persuasiveness and Personal magnetism.

The 1st Edition DMG lists a few examples of historic figures that were considered very charismatic despite a lack of physical beauty. The examples listed are Julies Ceaser, Napolean Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler.

In fact, this was one of the MAIN arguments that "anti-D&D" groups used to use against the game - because they claimed the game was lauding Adolf Hitler as someone to be admired and respected. The truth is that Hitler was "admired and respected" by the people of Germany before WWII. That is how this dumpy little sawed-off tyrant became the leader of a nation - because of his persuasiveness and personal magnatism, NOT his physical beauty.

A dwarf with 25 charisma would most likely be a battle-scarred hero of epic proportions. Breunor Battlehammer (from IWD trilogy) comes fairly close. His clan follows him faithfully and without question.

As mentioned before, a half-orc could very well favor the non-orc parent and have only mild traces of their orcish ancestry visible.

So it isn't as farfetched as it sounds.

In fact, one of the members of my PnP group had a high level fighter with a 25 Charisma. I thought for a looong time that his character was a paladin because he was also Lawful Good, but the player had just concentrated on getting his Charisma as high as possible. His physical attractiveness wasn't nearly as important as his legendary battle skills and tactics - and he had a HUGE keep full of henchmen that would serve him loyally and faithfully - even in the face of certain death.</font>


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