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Jon Irenicus 04-08-2003 12:01 AM

Ok, so my thief got the Night's Gift+5 ,the Armor of Deep Night and the Shadow Dragon armour. Which one is better? Thanx.

pcgiant 04-08-2003 12:59 AM

I like the Shadow Dragon armour, use this if you already have a high Sleath percentage.

Jim 04-08-2003 04:49 AM

Armour of Deep Night provides better protection than the Nights Gift +5, but the Shadow dragon armour is hands down the best out of these three.

Jon Irenicus 04-08-2003 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim:
Armour of Deep Night provides better protection than the Nights Gift +5, but the Shadow dragon armour is hands down the best out of these three.
I wonder y? Maybe Armour of Deep Night is a studded leather and the Nights Gift +5 is just leather? BTW, my assasin only has 150 for Stealth, so is taht enough or does he need the Night's Gift for the extra 20 Stealth? If thats enough then I'd use the Dragon Armour happily without regrets..

Jim 04-08-2003 05:18 AM

Yes, simply because Deep Night is studded and Gift is leather.

Studded leather has AC modifiers of:</font>
  • -2 slashing</font>
  • -1 missile</font>
  • -1 piercing</font>
Leather has AC modifiers of:</font>
  • +2 missile</font>
  • +2 piercing</font>
So, overall, Deep night (base AC 3) provides AC's of 1 vs slashing weapons, 2 vs piercing and missile weapons, and 3 vs crushing weapons. Comparing these to Gifts (base AC 3) AC's of 3 vs slashing weapons, 5 vs piercing and missile weapons and 3 vs crushing weapons.
It is therefore clear that, although both armours provide the same base AC, Deep Night is superior for protecting against 3 out of 4 damage types, and equal for the forth.
[EDIT:]I forgot to answer your question[/EDIT]:

When you say 150 for stealth, do you mean 150 in hide in shadows and 150 in move silently? If so then that is plenty and there is no need to raise this further. Since HIS and MS work in unison, it's worth spreading your points across the 2 abilities. If you've just pumped move silently *or* hide in shadows to 150, then your overall stealth skill is generally 75%, so the benefits from the Gift Armour might be worth considering, but for physical protection, the Night's Gift is an impressive armour for a thief.

[ 04-08-2003, 05:25 AM: Message edited by: Jim ]

D*Ranged 04-08-2003 05:29 AM

Shadow dragon scale. Best AC, counts as a studded leather armour, too.

Jon Irenicus 04-08-2003 06:09 AM

Thanx guys! [img]smile.gif[/img] BTW I just came up with another Q. Since it doesnt say anything about the armour being enchanted, is it possible to use the RoP+2 with the armor?

Jim 04-08-2003 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon Irenicus:
Thanx guys! [img]smile.gif[/img] BTW I just came up with another Q. Since it doesnt say anything about the armour being enchanted, is it possible to use the RoP+2 with the armor?
Sadly, no. The Shadow Dragon scale is still magical and cannot be combined with rings/cloaks/amulets of protection.

Annatar 04-08-2003 07:50 AM

<font color=white> Never heard of the Ease-of-Use mod have you ;) ? </font>

Jim 04-08-2003 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by Annatar:
<font color=white> Never heard of the Ease-of-Use mod have you ;) ? </font>
Yep, but I find using that upsets the balance of the game, and many would agree that being able to combine magical armours with protective rings/amulets and cloaks is actually cheating. I certainly think it is [img]smile.gif[/img] .


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