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Trau 02-18-2003 01:53 AM

If anyone can disprove this, please do, but I think it's an interesting bit of information to talk about. I just slaughtered Lord Alibbakar without giving him the mantle, and suffered no loss of reputation. The slaver guard by the door of the slaver compound can also be killed while not hostile suffering no loss of reputation nor attention from the guards. I think it is fairly safe to say that if a character could possibly engage you through something legal you did or said, you may kill them at any time and suffer nor reputation loss or otherwise harsh consequences.

Luvian 02-18-2003 02:01 AM

It's true. You can every priests in the temple of Lathander in the temple district and suffer no reputation loss or consequences. I think you can do it in the temple of Talos and Helm, too.

Mahlennacht 02-18-2003 02:08 AM

Does this also work if you attack & kill Alibakkar's rival (what's-her-name - the lady who also claims the mantle) ?

Also wondering: if you were to cast a DetectEvil, what alignment would Alibakkar and the slaver guard turn out to be? I've attacked non-hostiles before, by being Lawful Good and casting DetectEvil and deciding to purge nastiness wherever I go. I've never lost rep points for that. Bet the slaver guard is evil, but I didn't think Alibakkar was evil, just greedy.

Trau 02-18-2003 02:11 AM

Well, I don't think that matters. The preists obviously aren't evil, and you can kill them.

Annatar 02-18-2003 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by Trau:
Well, I don't think that matters. The preists obviously aren't evil, and you can kill them.
The priests of Talon are vile and evil though... the others are neutral/good, but the Talons worship the Stormlord (Evil) IIRC.

Mahlennacht 02-18-2003 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Trau:
Well, I don't think that matters. The preists obviously aren't evil, and you can kill them.
Yeah, I just now read Luvian's post - that's interesting. Hmmm. Well I should try massacreing all the priests just for fun anyway - I think there's some useful goodies around the premises... [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Roderick 02-18-2003 04:45 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mahlennacht:
[QB]Does this also work if you attack & kill Alibakkar's rival (what's-her-name - the lady who also claims the mantle) ?
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I keep the waukeen circlet and when you give it to one family a fight breaks out. I have attacked both sides at the same time during this battle with no rep loss.

SixOfSpades 02-18-2003 04:47 PM

As a matter of fact, you can cheerfully slaughter practically the entire Temple District and suffer not a whit of Rep. loss. Temple of Talos, Temple of Helm, Temple of Lathander, even the High Hall of the Radiant Heart! As long as you don't actually kill a Commoner, you're sittin' pretty! (Note: "Innocents" may still turn hostile to you if they see you attack a "Non-Innocent." Turn off your AI.)

Not all Evil characters can be summarily disposed of. Joluv, for example. A good indicator of whether of not they're classified as "Innocent" is whether or not they're holding a weapon.

Xero279 02-18-2003 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Luvian:
It's true. You can every priests in the temple of Lathander in the temple district and suffer no reputation loss or consequences. I think you can do it in the temple of Talos and Helm, too.
Its true, both the temple of lathandar and lord alibakkar deal with a quest, so you can kill them. pretty much any creaure dealing with a quest (few exceptions) can be killed without rep loss. i actually had a wierd quest dealing with temple of lathandar

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Working for mae'var, he actually had me steal the golden statue from the temple f lathander, causing the whole temple to go hostile. so of course, i killed them all [img]smile.gif[/img]

Gangrell 02-18-2003 07:12 PM

Right... so lemme get this straight. If it *isn't* a civilian, and you engage some kind of officer, you're golden right? Well, explain this to me then.

I was in the Underdark with Valen, and when I'm in the Lich's house right after killing him, 4 glowing fighters appear. First I think, whoa, what's this? Then they explain to me they're here to kill Valen and beride of her evil and so forth. They weren't civilians right, I killed them and managed to get Valen to survive, but I lost 16 REPUTATION POINTS. Just for defending a party member? This isn't justice!

[ 02-18-2003, 07:13 PM: Message edited by: Gangrell ]


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