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Does anyone have a list of the alternate good/evil rewards in Hell? (a link would do, but I'm very restricted on which web sites I can get to at work)

Also looking for a list of the familiars - which alignment gets what?

Cheers

Some from the top of my head, some from Dan Simpson's Walkthrough:

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Rewards in hell:
FEAR TEAR (the Nymph cloak)
Good: Immunity to +1 weapons or less
Evil: +2 CON

SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion)
Good: +10 resistance to magic
Evil: +2 to your AC

GREED TEAR (the Blackrazor sword)
Good: +2 to all saving throws
Evil: +15 to HP

PRIDE TEAR (the dragon)
Good: +20% resistances to fire, cold and electricity
Evil: Gain 200,000 experience

WRATH TEAR (Sarevok)
Good: +1 to WIS and CHA
Evil: +2 to STR

Completely copied from Dan Simpson's Walkthrough:

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Familiars:

Alignment Familiar AC HP Abilities

Lawful Good Pseudo Dragon -2 24 50% magic resistance, renders
victims unconscious, casts Blur

Neutral Good Pseudo Dragon -2 24 (same as above)

Chaotic Good Fairy Dragon 4 24 32% magic res., casts Invisibility
10' Radius & Mirror Image 1/day

Lawful Neutral Ferret 0 24 50% magic res., 75% Pickpocket,
40% Stealth, 20% Detect Traps

True Neutral Rabbit -4 16 50% Detect Traps, 30% Stealth,
75% resistance to fire, cold, elec

Chaotic Neutral Cat 0 24 20% Pickpocket, 99% Stealth,
50% magic res.

Lawful Evil Imp 2 18 Polymorphs, 25% magic res.

Neutral Evil Dust Mephit 6 24 Casts Glitterdust 2/day, 10% magic
res.

Chaotic Evil Quasit 2 24 Casts Horror, 25% magic resist.

;)

[ 01-29-2003, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Sir Exxon ]

Excellent /burns

It sucks been stuck at work :(

Dan's walkthrough is incomplete. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] ;)

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Rewards in hell:
FEAR TEAR (the Nymph cloak)
Good: Immunity to +1 weapons or less
Evil: +2 CON + the Nymph Cloak duh ;) 

SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion)
Good: +10 resistance to magic-1 DEX, -2 HP, 1 ungrateful victim
Evil: +2 to your AC

GREED TEAR (the Blackrazor sword)
Good: +2 to all saving throws
Evil: +15 to HP+ Blackrazor

PRIDE TEAR (the dragon)
Good: +20% resistances to fire, cold and electricity
Evil: Gain 200,000 experienceSigh... don't forget the Robe of Evil Archmagi, Ring of Protection +2 and gold and XP from killing the Dragon as well

WRATH TEAR (Sarevok)
Good: +1 to WIS and CHA
Evil: +2 to STR

I have not yet experimented with this. Spoil me. What I want to know is, how many tests or which tests do you have to fail to change alignment? Say, if I was a good character, what would make my evil side come out? Or, say, if I was evil to the core and wanted to redeem my self? Which tests cause the outcome of an alignment change?

The only alignment change you can cause is if you choose any Evil options (yes, even just 1 - IMO it should be "more Evil choices than Good", or allow 1 Evil choice for Neutral Good & 2 for Chaotic Good, but hey, that's just me [img]smile.gif[/img] ). Your alignment will then switch irrevocably (I couldn't even switch it with ShadowKeeper afterwards) to Neutral Evil.

In un-modded games, even a Chaotic/Lawful Evil character will switch to Neutral Evil. I believe it's the Baldurdash fixes that correct that part (someone correct me if it's something else).

There's no way to redeem your Evil character, though - I guess the thinking is that your choices were likely motivated by cost/benefit rather than actually trying to be Good. [img]smile.gif[/img]

- Imrahil

There is a mod that will change the hell quests somewhat, adding a neutral option and making the alignment changes a bit more realistic. The mod is Helltest by Adahn - has anyone tried it?

can I add to this question, what are the choices and outcomes of the spellhold confrontation with the demon outside candlekeep ?

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Originally posted by karlosovic:
can I add to this question, what are the choices and outcomes of the spellhold confrontation with the demon outside candlekeep ?

IIRC, you can choose to lose 1 point of either Constitution, Dexterity, Wisdom or Intelligence. ;)

Dundee's correction of Dan's walkthrough is slightly incomplete. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] ;)

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Rewards in hell:
FEAR TEAR (the Nymph cloak)
Good: Immunity to +1 weapons or less
Evil: +2 CON + the Nymph Cloak

SELFISHNESS TEAR (sacrifice for companion)
Good: +10 resistance to magic, -1 DEX, -2 HP, -15K EXP, +1 ungrateful victim
Evil: +2 to your AC

GREED TEAR (the Blackrazor sword)
Good: +2 to all saving throws
Evil: +15 to HP + Blackrazor

PRIDE TEAR (the dragon)
Good: +20% resistances to fire, cold and electricity
Evil: Gain 200,000 experience, Robe of Evil Archmagi, Ring of Protection +2, gold, 12K EXP, scrolls of Time Stop, Sphere of Chaos, Wail of the Banshee

WRATH TEAR (Sarevok)
Good: +1 to WIS and CHA
Evil: +2 to STR

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