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Chewbacca 06-05-2009 12:37 AM

Obama's Cairo Speech
 
This is it. Direct sincere dialouge and clearly defined goals for the common good. Not at all wishy washy about killing terrorists. Responsible not apolagetic. All six parts is a commitment, but worth it. Props to Thomas Jefferson. I wonder how the target audience (Islam, Muslims, ect.) recieved it. I wonder how OBL feels being spirtually destroyed by The POTUS? (LITERALLY) Obama straight up killed evil with words today.

Video pt 1/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mREdhWq_p2Q

Full Text:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...ama-text_N.htm

Firestormalpha 06-05-2009 12:50 AM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
from what I've heard/read via the news, the responses from the Muslim comunity run the full gammit, from "he's just the same as Bush, only deceptive about it" to "I really like what he's got to say".

SpiritWarrior 06-05-2009 12:52 AM

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This is called diplomacy. I liked it.

Memnoch 06-05-2009 01:30 AM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
Call me idealistic, but I thought it was pretty bloody good. We need to be able to dream, and to try to turn those dreams into reality. There's nothing wrong with dreaming for peace.

Firestormalpha 06-05-2009 01:31 AM

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Here's an article on Muslim reaction to President Obama's speach. Apparently mostly positive.

Quote:

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Muslim reaction to U.S. President Barack Obama's speech, delivered in Cairo Thursday morning, was very positive.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh was pleased with Obama's references to the Koran.

"The use of Koranic sayings plays a big part in a positive change of picture, but there is a necessity for action," al-Dabbagh said.

"The speech was historic and important and reflects a positive direction for the new administration [in Washington] and it is a new start," he said.

"I think there is clear support of a right for a Palestinian state and their right for a life, but Arabs are waiting for pressure to be exerted on Israel so it can stop violations in Gaza and the West Bank," he said.

Both Palestinian parties - Hamas and Fatah - were also happy with Obama's words.

"President Obama's speech is a good start and an important step toward a new American policy," Hamas legislator Mahmoud Ramahi said.

"There is a difference between his policy and Bush's policy. I see a change in the U.S. foreign policy discourse," Ramahi said.

A spokesman for Fatah-affiliated Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas praised Obama's vision.

"His call for stopping settlement and for the establishment of a Palestinian state and his reference to the suffering of Palestinians…is a clear message to Israel that a just peace is built on the foundations of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital," Nabil Abu Rudeineh said, speaking on behalf of the Palestinian Authority.
As for OBL's feelings, he recently sent out a new tape threatening the US blaming Obama for the resurgence of violence in Pakistan, etc. Annalysts believe this is a sign that OBL is afraid of the effect Obama may have on his influence.

Chewbacca 06-05-2009 02:13 AM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
Obama's comments on the fundamental human rights which lead to democracy are especially fitting for the date, June 04. Is this speech censored in China I wonder?

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 06-05-2009 05:35 AM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
His words were actually my waking thoughts a few minutes ago. I am impressed and yet I still have that underlying fear at the same time...

Felix The Assassin 06-05-2009 06:22 AM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
A former president spoke eloquently, yet he understood what the world was about, therefore he carried a big stick. And that is what it's all about. (Speak softly, and carry a big stick). When terrorism is extinguished, and peace reigns throughout the Muslim world, then, and only then, can we judge success or failure of just a speech.

Luvian 06-05-2009 07:35 AM

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The great thing about Obama is that he understands politics and how people works, he knows how to shift opinions.

You can't club the whole world into submission. There's battles to be fought but they can't be fought alone, and they can't be fought against potential allies.

You've got to have both a stick and a carrot, and know when to use each one.

Felix The Assassin 06-06-2009 09:57 PM

Re: Obama's Cairo Speech
 
Here is the Taliban's take on the speech:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090606/...bama_taliban_1


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