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ZFR 01-01-2009 04:53 PM

HoF turn undead
 
This is about my HoF game.

I have a question, will the clerics be ever able to turn udead in HoF? both my clerics are level 22 and they seem to be able to turn only 2 types of undead: jack and squat.
Are the undead in HoF so high on hit dice that they can never be turned, or will there be a time when, like in ToB, undead fights can be finished with just a single click?

Also, they both summon skeletons/zombies. Do they ever get to summon something better with Animate Undead?

ElfBane 01-04-2009 07:06 AM

Re: HoF turn undead
 
I can't seem to find a synopsis of exactly what HoF mode does. However, in browsing thru some other forums it was mentioned that HP based spells are essentially worthless. The Sleep spell was specifically mentioned as a spell that will NEVER work because of the high HP of the monsters.
This looks like a job for the, drum roll please...Six of Spades!!! Or maybe Dundee Slaytern!!
Hope this helps!

ZFR 01-05-2009 01:29 PM

Re: HoF turn undead
 
Well, I discovered that I could turn something. While fighting Lord Marudek, just before dying he summoned a few skeletons and zombies. The weakest ones. And those I managed to turn (destroy). Not that they could've hurt me in any way...

So I can turn undead, but not the ones that truly matter (3rd level DE, Burial Island...). The ones I can turn are the ones I can destroy easily anyway.

Now I wonder if I could turn the blast skeleton from Watchnight's Crypt... I never tried...

Aerich 03-28-2009 10:50 AM

Re: HoF turn undead
 
Yes, you can turn undead, but it takes a long while before you can turn anything that's actually dangerous. A maxed-out paladin in the TotL Crypt can destroy mummies and ghosts, and occasionally turn greater mummies and spectral warriors. iirc, Revenants and Crypt things can't be turned. Not sure about blast skeletons, but why would you want to? Better just to pelt it from range - if you turn it and destroy it, it'll likely damage you anyway.

As a pally turns undead like a cleric 3 levels lower, a lvl 27 cleric should be able to do what I've described.

And no, Animate Dead doesn't get any better. It is only a 3rd lvl spell, after all. Only in IWD2 does Animate Dead call anything nastier than skellies and zombies.


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