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Xen 02-10-2004 09:12 AM

So do they or is it just in your head? My friends says that he is the best becuase he has Adidas. I have both (Nike and Adidas) and I am pretty good with both of them.
So I say that is all in your head!

What do you think?

[ 02-10-2004, 09:13 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Bungleau 02-10-2004 09:15 AM

I think it's in your head. There are some differences in fit and feel, but those are secondary.

Unless, of course, I'm being paid to sponsor one pair or the other. In that case, they absolutely do make a difference. And they make more of a difference if you buy our socks, too... :D

ryaldin 02-10-2004 10:25 AM

For me, it's imperative that they match my socks, shinguards, shorts, and at least the trim on my jersey. That's why I HAD to get the Diadora's, made of kangaroo. I mean, frankly, Genuine Kangaroo leather has style written all over it. And I've never even seen a Kangaroo (well, maybe once in the phoneix zoo, but it wasn't a very good angle, and the lighting was a bit poor...)

johnny 02-10-2004 11:00 AM

Some shoes are better than others, but it shouldn't be of influence on your game. If you suck, you suck, there's no shoe that's gonna change that. :D

RoSs_bg2_rox 02-10-2004 02:16 PM

I suppose you found that out pretty quickly Johnny! :D

Davros 02-10-2004 05:18 PM

Well soccer shoes certainly affect the game I play ;) - I play golf :D . If I wore soccer shoes those studs would make large dents in the green and sure make it harder for me to sink any putts :D .

Vaskez 02-10-2004 06:06 PM

Football boots do affect the game you play quite a lot I think - but it's like most things - once you get up to a certain quality level, any further improvement is going to make little or no difference in the way you play.
Badminton is my main sport. Now if you play with a £10 racket and then a £40 racket the difference is huge but you won't notice that much difference between the £40 racket and a £120 racket.

Kakero 02-10-2004 09:55 PM

Different football shoes DO affect how you play. 13 stud shoes are good for rigorous training while 7 stud shoes are good for actual football match. Long stud shoes are good for short passing, shooting the ball straight but quite hard for crossing the ball. Short studs shoes are good for crossing the ball and curving the ball while shooting. Also depends on the weather, long stud shoes are good when it's raining and when the ground is muddy. short stud shoes are good when the ground is hard.

Apart from that, the shoe thickness is also very important, for people who have " soft " leg. they need to wear hard football shoes while those that have " tough " leg can wear soft football shoes.

hmm...need I to continue further?

johnny 02-11-2004 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
Different football shoes DO affect how you play. 13 stud shoes are good for rigorous training while 7 stud shoes are good for actual football match. Long stud shoes are good for short passing, shooting the ball straight but quite hard for crossing the ball. Short studs shoes are good for crossing the ball and curving the ball while shooting. Also depends on the weather, long stud shoes are good when it's raining and when the ground is muddy. short stud shoes are good when the ground is hard.

Apart from that, the shoe thickness is also very important, for people who have " soft " leg. they need to wear hard football shoes while those that have " tough " leg can wear soft football shoes.

hmm...need I to continue further?

You seem to forget that some of the worlds best players are from brazil, and didn't even have money to buy shoes. They've learned how to play the game barefooted. Same goes for most of the Nigerian players. Wearing shoes will probably mean less painful toes to them, but that's about it, it defenitely doesn't enhance your skills, your speed, or your technical abilities. Either you are born with the talent to play this game, or you're not. Putting on comfy or expensive shoes will NOT give you that little extra to make it to the pros, that's all in your feet. There is no such thing as a shoe+5. :D

Kakero 02-11-2004 05:57 AM

Maybe but certain technique like " screwing the ball " ( sorry I don't really know how to describe it ) can't be done unless you wear a football shoes.

johnny 02-11-2004 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
Maybe but certain technique like " screwing the ball " ( sorry I don't really know how to describe it ) can't be done unless you wear a football shoes.
You wanna bet ? You mean give the ball a certain effect so that it's kinda spinning and makes a curve, right ? I can do that with my bare feet.

Vaskez 02-11-2004 08:12 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure I can curve the ball with bare feet too. I think it's called the banana shot.

[ 02-11-2004, 08:12 AM: Message edited by: Vaskez ]

Kakero 02-11-2004 07:59 PM

no, it's not that. that banana shot is easy even a 4 year old can do that. the thing I said is hard to describe. why don't you come over and I'll show you johnny. :D

Vaskez 02-11-2004 09:05 PM

Oh sorry I didn't know even a 4 year-old could do that. I'll keep a look out for you at the next world cup then, Pele.

Sagramore 02-11-2004 09:14 PM

Hm...i think its practice that makes you better...i would suck if it wasn't for my hours of practice...but nifty shoes are nice too

[ 02-11-2004, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: Sagramore ]

johnny 02-12-2004 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vaskez:
Oh sorry I didn't know even a 4 year-old could do that. I'll keep a look out for you at the next world cup then, Pele.
That would be Edson Arantes Do Nakakero. :D

Vaskez 02-12-2004 07:56 AM

Never heard of him. Sounds like a sorted geezer though.

Kakero 02-12-2004 12:07 PM

Actually I am player/ manager for kashima antlers for 5 season and won everything. I was also the league top scorer for 5 season also. The japan FA see that I'm so good and they hire me as the japanese national team manager. Of course I guided japan to win the world cup 2002 when japan beat england 3 - 1 in final. I was the top scorer for that tournament. I think I scored 17 goals. See? I'm that good no? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Oh wait, this is championship manager. silly me. :D

johnny 02-12-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vaskez:
Never heard of him. Sounds like a sorted geezer though.
Of course you've heard of him. It's Pele's full name, except i changed Nascimento into NaKakero, see ? :D

Faceman 02-12-2004 12:28 PM

johnny is perfectly right, if you suck you suck :D
Better equipment mostly makes a difference for advanced or pro players, but at amateur level it's not that big a deal UNLESS as Vaskez stated correctly you are using lowest quality which will affect you even at novice level.
Compare it to online-shooters:
If you play counter-strike on a P90 with onboard graphics your game will lag and you will suck!
If you play it on an adequate system you can rise high if you have the talent.
Once you get to the pro level even such little things as improved mousepads will be able to give you a further edge over other players as talented as you. But better players you won't catch even if your system is high end and your mouse glides on a hoverpad :D

Vaskez 02-12-2004 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faceman:
johnny is perfectly right, if you suck you suck :D

yeah Johnny is pretty wise for his years - must be all that ale

johnny 02-12-2004 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Vaskez:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Faceman:
johnny is perfectly right, if you suck you suck :D

yeah Johnny is pretty wise for his years - must be all that ale </font>[/QUOTE]And then some [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

Downunda 02-12-2004 03:06 PM

I suck at soccer, can't even do that banana shot thing [img]tongue.gif[/img]

GokuZool 02-12-2004 11:25 PM

Not really.

Football boots are turning into a bloody fashion statement e.g. 6 year old kids in white Adidas kangaroo leather boots.

Bah!

[ 02-12-2004, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Link 02-13-2004 07:01 AM

Not to mention more than one pair of soccer shoes a season. :eek: My parents would never allow me to have more than one pair a season, let alone more than one pair of soccer shoes.


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