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Harkoliar 07-30-2006 12:32 PM

something like ring of elemetal resistance. Is there such a spell/item/weapon/armour/shield that give such a thing?

My defender is immune to nearly all things except for magic based weapons... trying to be the ultimate defender here [img]tongue.gif[/img]

if there isnt such a thing in undermountain, surely Z can make one can there be?

StigTC 07-30-2006 12:52 PM

And while he's at it, he should make a gadget that casts divine favor level 15 x times a day. [img]smile.gif[/img]

roddybug 07-30-2006 02:08 PM

Heh heh! Very little in the Undermountain can hurt you in undead form at the moment, just un-live with it Hark [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 07-30-2006, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: roddybug ]

robertthebard 07-30-2006 02:13 PM

I've never actually tested this, so I can't say for sure, but if you get your magic resistance up as high as you can, you may be able to absorb the magic damage. Stands to reason that if a 32 Spell Resistance can abosorb a magic missile, it may also reduce magical damage. I'm not going to stand by this assertion however, as it is pure speculation.

Harkoliar 07-30-2006 10:42 PM

i have tried being in drow form, and it doesnt work :(

edit: drows have natural high magic resistance.

[ 07-30-2006, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: Harkoliar ]

Neo the Warrior Cat 07-30-2006 11:47 PM

Actually, no.

Spell Resistance only affects the chances of a spell working on you.

To beat spell resistance a caster must roll:

1d20 + Caster Level + Any Spell Penetration feats (2,4, or 6) >/= Target's SR

If they do, the spell goes through. Thus why spell resistance can eat spells.

There is a Magic Damage resistance trait, but it can only be put on items.

Harkoliar 07-31-2006 12:41 AM

but there is no magic damage immunity available against magic damage weapons?

robertthebard 07-31-2006 12:44 AM

Might have to settle for resistance, if you can find something. I don't remember seeing anything, but I'm a long way from seeing everything that's in the well.

Dace De'Briago 07-31-2006 01:36 PM

A DD/monk build is very decent for this sort of damage resistance.

20/- for the monk
9/- for the DD

Thats 29 damage off everything. There are a few other items/armours in the game that will help on top of that.

wellard 07-31-2006 08:31 PM

There is a cloak that gives a magic resistance of 32 in the game, which helps but I still managed to loose a fotitude save and die :D

mind you that was just once in two hours of gameing

wellard 07-31-2006 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neo the Warrior Cat:


To beat spell resistance a caster must roll:

1d20 + Caster Level + Any Spell Penetration feats (2,4, or 6) >/= Target's SR


How does the above equation work with a rougue that has 'use magical device' skills but no caster levels.

If he is a 20th level rougue is it cast as a caster level 20 or something else?

If I was a 35 level cleric with plus 6 penatration would I have a +41 throw
total or 26? (meaning it does not increase after level 20)

robertthebard 07-31-2006 11:13 PM

Scrolls and wands have the spell at a specific caster level, and that level is used for the DC. I don't think that it cuts off at lvl 20, but on that, I could be mistaken, as spell casters aren't my specialty.

Neo the Warrior Cat 08-01-2006 03:51 PM

Like rob said, each scroll, wand, or other item that can cast the spell casts the spell at a certain level. That level is used to determine wether it pierces SR and the length/power of its effects.


In general, you aren't going to beat most SR with a wand.


There is no cutoff point to the Caster level being added to the roll to beat SR. A 38th level mage with Epic Spell pen would have a 50% chance of beating 54 SR.

wellard 08-01-2006 05:37 PM

Not talking about wands guys, what you say about them is true. Im talking scrolls in the case of rougues and normal spell casting.

Neo the Warrior Cat 08-01-2006 06:41 PM

Scrolls are the same.


Normal Spell Casting is done through the forumla I've already posted. Of course, the check really doesn't apply if the target has no SR (auto-success)


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