Anyone have any further information on this, besides this site? If it's true, it's exactly what I believed all along--he moved them out of Iraq. But, I need proof.


http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_1.html

*snort*
So that explains the nuclear warheads in my backyard. ;) Funny how the discovery of that missile in Rotterdam was never reported in our media, either.
Anyway, let's just wait for any reliable newssouces to pick it up - if Demetrius Perricos really did say any of that, it should be all over the news in no time.

[ 06-12-2004, 06:48 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

Okay, I suppose this more or less answers our question as to whether the WorldTribune is a reliable source or not. The basic premise is that they simply put out stories based on half-truths, in the hope of it eventually turning out to be true. Still, they *did* claim to have quoted an actually existing person in the article posted by Ziroc, so perhaps other news sources - other than the likes of Limbaugh, O'Reilly and more of their ilk, that is - might pick it up eventually.

FIT TO PRINT?

Aficionados of the Drudge Report may have noticed several striking headlines recently linking to stories from the World Tribune, an enterprise with a title as grand and ambitious as it is unfamiliar. One such story last week began, “U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction have finally been located.” The apparent scoop—of stop-the-presses significance—was unsigned, and billed as a “special to World Tribune.com.” The Times, the Journal, and the Washington Post, meanwhile, not only got beat but failed even to acknowledge the news in the days that followed. What gives?

Not everyone ignored it: Rush Limbaugh, for instance. “There’s a piece in the World Tribune today—one of the papers in the United Kingdom—exactly as theorized on this program early on,” he said on his radio show. “It’s unconfirmed, but it’s a story that many of the weapons of mass destruction are at present buried in the Bekaare Valley of Lebanon.” Fox News, catering to a similar demographic, enlisted a military analyst that evening to discuss potential ramifications—military intervention in Lebanon?—on “The O’Reilly Factor.” According to the story, the weapons were probably delivered to the Bekaa Valley, a Hezbollah stronghold, in a caravan of tractor-trailers that was spotted leaving Iraq in January, two months before the war began, as part of a multimillion- dollar storage deal between Saddam Hussein and the Syrian government.

In fact, the World Tribune is not published in the United Kingdom, nor is it, to be precise, a newspaper. It is a Web site produced, more or less as a hobby, in Falls Church, Virginia, and is dedicated to the notion, as its mission statement explains, that “there is a market for news of the world and not just news of the weird.” (Nonetheless, the site includes a prominent feature, Cosmic Tribune, with an extraterrestrial focus, and it links to a Mafia journal called Gang Land News.) Its editor and publisher, Robert Morton, is an assistant managing editor at the Washington Times and a former “corporate editor” for News World Communications, the Times’ owner and the publishing arm of the Unification Church, led by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon. (Morton and his wife, Choon Boon, are themselves followers of the Reverend Moon.) Among the World Tribune’s other recent half-ignored scoops are that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for last month’s blackout and that a North Korean defector stressed, during a meeting in July with White House officials, the need for a preëmptive military strike against Kim Jong Il.

Morton said last week via e-mail that he founded the site as an experiment, back in 1998, while serving as a media fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, a conservative think tank. “I didn’t expect World Tribune.com to last for more than a few months,” Morton wrote, but now, despite having no dedicated staff (“Everyone involved with World Tribune.com has a day job”), the site receives more than a million page views per month. And, unlike the Washington Times, which has lost at least a billion dollars in its twenty-one-year existence, World Tribune.com, in concert with the subscription-driven weekly intelligence briefing Geostrategy-Direct.com (a partner site), has paid for itself.

The secret of its success seems to involve well-placed informants (“Over the years I have developed an informal, international network of sources and writers I can trust,” Morton said) and an emphasis on immediacy. Although Morton said, “We emphasize newspaper standards to counter the half-baked, unfiltered content on some online sites,” World Tribune.com more fairly qualifies as something between a newspaper and a rumor-mongering blog. Call it “blews.” In this sense, it is part of a loose network of mostly conservative sites—WorldNetDaily, Dr. Koontz’s National Security Message Board, debka File (produced by a pair of Jerusalem-based journalists thought to have moles in Israeli intelligence)—whose dispatches sometimes serve as the journalistic equivalent of trial balloons: a story may not be based on knowable facts, but it nevertheless may occasionally turn out to be right. (Much of the time, of course, it more closely resembles a Bat Boy update in the Weekly World News.)

Take the Lebanon story. National- security buffs may have recalled hearing similar reports as far back as late December (beginning with an accusation from Ariel Sharon), and cropping up again in the spring (via debka). The story never quite stuck, however, and as of the end of last week no major newspaper had seen fit to tell it. Bill Gertz, the Washington Times’ best-known reporter, is a columnist and contributing editor for Geostrategy-Direct.com and a member of the World Tribune advisory board. A few days after the Tribune’s Lebanon lead, Gertz allowed that he, too, had been hearing the reports for months but hadn’t written anything about it for the paper. “I’ve never been able to nail it down myself,” he said. He would presumably have encountered similar difficulties with the story, available at Cosmic Tribune, of the increase in observed U.F.O. activity as Mars neared.

— Ben McGrath

Source: The New Yorker (from the Talk of the Town section)

[ 06-12-2004, 06:18 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

And not that it would change my opinions in any way on the War if any WMDs are found or not, this one gave me a chuckle nonetheless. ;)

http://pandemonium.phpwebhosting.com/believe.jpg

[ 06-12-2004, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

Ziroc, I too considered that the likely scenario from the beginning, what with all the talk of mobile labs and Mirvs, they could have taken the fuel tanks and guidance computers out of the MIRVs, and filled that new (and vast) volume up with more agent. You wouldn't need that many trips to get all the agent out of the country. I believe, personally, that most of it's probably in Syria.

LOL, funny image, 'BOB' :D :D

Yeh, I never heard of that website, so I was wondering how the hell they get that info... And you're right, if it WAS 100% fact, every news agency would be on it with "Exclusive" feeds. lol....

LOL - Limbaugh and Faux News jumped on the bandwagon of that article did they :D - hale, if it says what they wanted it to say it must be worth repeatin mustn't it ;) .

Z-man I posted this on the other "there aren't No WoMD's thread" posted 10-06-2004 12:26 AM http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...7;t=001114;p=2

4th post down, oh yeah it didn't come from Fox or Limbaugh you folks might want to check out Rueters or what ever they call themselves, AP, UPI even CNN ;) [img]smile.gif[/img] :D

As for why it hasn't shown up in other press outlets well Could it be because this doesn't fit into the news those outlet want to feed to their masses, No that couldn't possibly be the reason everybody knows only right-wing pro Bush does that every other press outlet is pure as the wind driven snow. :D

Once again JDH lights a smelly old cigar kicks his feet up on his desk and laughs his rear-end off. And askes "Would you guys do me a favor and give it up I don't have much of a rear-end left from all the times I've had to laugh it off?" ;)

[ 06-13-2004, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]

I agree John. most of the media here is VERY liberal.. lol, and people here get all mad when Fox news isn't.. They want ALL channels to cater to their views [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] ((hides))

John D., maybe you should have added an actual source to the article you posted in that other topic, though - it's difficult to determine for anyone if you were quoting it from a source that's generally considered to be trustworthy or directly from some nut's online blog. ;)

Anyways... Judging from the "nuggets" posted by you, it's far too soon to conclude anything from Perricos's findings (when were they turned into scrap? Were they relics from the first Gulf War, or still operative at the moment Bush and Blair made their case for war? Because as it stands, this doesn't prove anything (yet?), just that some scrap from old Iraqi missiles has been located - and we know Saddam had long range missiles at some point anyways); and that's probably the reason why all of the major news outlets - including fox news I assume, whom you can hardly call anti-war - have refrained from drawing the same conclusions as you did. So it's nice and all that you're already linedancing ( ;) ) in joy, just keep in mind that it could very well be false alarm.

[ 06-13-2004, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]