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Billikins the Bold 09-11-2001 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
Billikins (or however you spell it) where in my post did I suggest we OCCUPY Afghanistan? I said destroy the camps. Any and all that we know of. Then get out. Its not the ultimate answer and would not get all of them. Likely only the little fish. But its a start. Then I'm sure the "black ops" boys would handle the harder to find assholes
And you're prepared for the casulties (cos there would be casulties) and the resulting body bags? And another set of terrorists waiting to grow up and avenge their fathers?

All well and good in a video game...

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Staralfur 09-11-2001 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Billikins the Bold:
And you're prepared for the casulties (cos there would be casulties) and the resulting body bags? And another set of terrorists waiting to grow up and avenge their fathers?

All well and good in a video game...


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SSJ4Sephiroth 09-11-2001 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanamur:
To risky... use smart weapons... quicker, more effective.
but then again, ground forces are actually more precise. they can act on information they find, and if they find another camp or something, they can go after that one too. also, smart weapons are defeated by the bunker. with the right tactics, ground forces can take down a bunker with minimal losses.

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Ryanamur 09-11-2001 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Gabriel:
Dude are you saying that you posts were Stupid, that Terrorism is stuipid or both? Cause I wondoring which I agree with here.
No, my post were not stupid. My post represent the way that a terrorist would think (or at least how I would think if I was a terrorist). The bottom line is that terrorism,just like war,is really stupid and there's not way to prevent it or to cure it but to kill every body. Which is of course totaly inhuman.

Don't worry, I'm not a "bad guy" I'm a good guy trying to make understand the bad guy mentality to others.

Mind you, logicaly, ethicaly and professionnaly, shoothing down any hijacked commercial airliner flying over the US today would have been the proper course of action to save lives. It would have taken someone with really cold feelings to give the order but it's an order that should be given.

Encard 09-11-2001 06:06 PM

Hmm... much as I hate to admit it, Billikins, I see your point. Damn... I really don't know. *sigh*

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Lord of Alcohol 09-11-2001 06:07 PM

Yes Billikins I am prepared for casaulties. I am a former Marine. I have no doubts they are ready to go right now. They may not be called upon but I can assure you they are ready. A MAU is one of the highest trained units in the Marine Corps. BTW we are bombing Afghanistan RIGHT NOW BRB

Ladyzekke 09-11-2001 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
Yes Billikins I am prepared for casaulties. I am a former Marine. I have no doubts they are ready to go right now. They may not be called upon but I can assure you they are ready. A MAU is one of the highest trained units in the Marine Corps. BTW we are bombing Afghanistan RIGHT NOW BRB
LofA! I am seeing that right now on the news re Afghanistan! You really think that is us?

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Ryanamur 09-11-2001 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
but then again, ground forces are actually more precise. they can act on information they find, and if they find another camp or something, they can go after that one too. also, smart weapons are defeated by the bunker. with the right tactics, ground forces can take down a bunker with minimal losses.


Not within the next few weeks. They are expecting retaliation. They'll be waiting for you. If you send someone in, they'll make sure to keep one or two survivors to return home and act as propaganda... the rest will be in body bags.

Bomb the camp a few time over the next few weeks then, 4-6 months from now, send in the pros to cut the troaths... but again, that will not solve the problem. It will only rassasiate public opinion.




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Lord of Alcohol 09-11-2001 06:11 PM

Hmmmm ok cnn said someone reported missiles and now theres a big fire in Kabul. No telling if we did it, theres anti-Taliban elements there too. So who knows at this point, I jumped the gun sorry

Gabriel 09-11-2001 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Ryanamur:
No, my post were not stupid. My post represent the way that a terrorist would think (or at least how I would think if I was a terrorist). The bottom line is that terrorism,just like war,is really stupid and there's not way to prevent it or to cure it but to kill every body. Which is of course totaly inhuman.

Don't worry, I'm not a "bad guy" I'm a good guy trying to make understand the bad guy mentality to others.

Mind you, logicaly, ethicaly and professionnaly, shoothing down any hijacked commercial airliner flying over the US today would have been the proper course of action to save lives. It would have taken someone with really cold feelings to give the order but it's an order that should be given.

Woopss my bad, I meant the ideals within your post ie bombing them- which I think was just happened- were stupided Ideals.
But I have to say shooting the planes down would of been the right course, but it would of only work if there was a warning and if they weren't over a city at the time.


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