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white heron 03-30-2001 05:08 PM

Having never played the original D&D or AD&D games,it was enlightening today to see a 2nd edition bestiary/beast manual,and massive forgotten realms map(sword coast is so tiny itsy bitsy).I looked up the LICH to find that it says you need a +1 weapon to hit?
...Am i getting it wrong or are there differences like this between 2nd and 3rd edition rules?
I know they had to tone down Beholders for BG2,but in the main ,have creatures basic stats',resistances,vulnerabilitys ect, changed between the rules sets?
thx

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Azred 03-30-2001 05:49 PM

You bet they have. The original AD&D game had various named demons and devils (like Jubilex and Asmodeus) which could be reasonably easily defeated by a party of maybe 6 to 8 characters of level 9 to 12. When the second edition came out, the most powerful demons and devils (I always hated the names "tanar'ri", etc.) could stomp a party of 6 to 8 characters of level 9 to 12; their powers were greatly increased. Some creatures' stats have remained the same (poor orcs have always had 1 HD) but many have changed as the editions have changed. *sigh* I've only been playing since 1982....

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Lord Shield 03-30-2001 06:46 PM

The '+1 to hit' has changed, too. Now such targets have 'damage reduction'. So if you hit a lich with a non-magical boulder, he'll still feel it! (e.g., if you hit a monster with DR 5/+1 with a normal weapon for 14 points, it becomes 9 points of damage [less against mummies but that's another story]).


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