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Soothsayer 05-20-2005 06:55 AM

WOW seriously great thread guys! This will come in really handy knowing how many bugs the forgotten realms guys love to put into their software.

FlameousFire 12-21-2005 11:15 AM

I saw this in shop for few euros so I decided to buy it only to find out that it doesn`t work. Lucky as I am, I found myself here so you can help me. I read most of the posts in this thread but didn`t see any of them fitting for me.
I have Athlon 2600, 1G Ram, Radeon 9600 and Win XP, DirectX 9.0c
The problem I have comes right in the beginning, I start the game, it goes to the beginning screen and then just crashes and gives me this memory error:
The instruction at -insert numbers and letters- referenced memory at -more numbers- The memory could not be written.
Music continues to play. Now... even though I like this music very much, I`d like to play too =D
And I did run it in win95 mode so shouldn`t be that.

Shanomo 02-05-2006 02:45 PM

hey, I got a problem: in bug fixer 5.1? i think the one that fixes the buildings not been able to be entered, i downloaded virtualdub and tried using it on my XP computer i haven't managed to get it work. I downloaded it straight to a disc because the computer i have w&w in doesn't have internet. Please help I cant continue on from i'shad 'na (some of my buildings work and some don't ish gates, temple and samurai place don't work) the games to good to stop there.

Bungleau 02-06-2006 09:17 AM

Wow! A couple of folks snuck in here when I wasn't looking! Sorry for the delayed responses here... in any case...

FlameousFire, have you done all the fixes listed for XP in the beginning of this thread? Whether they seem important or not, they should be done. Specifically, I'd look at anything else running while you're running W&W, and also consider applying the patch if you haven't already. Sometimes it just fixes things... ;)

And Shanomo, I'm not familiar with Bug Fixer 5.1. I hadn't heard of any utilities for fixing the bugs in W&W. You will need to use virtualdub... let me see... ah, yes... from the other page...

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  • First, copy each townmskn.avi file to townmskn_orig.avi in the W&W\townavi folder. This takes about 4.5 MB of space, and will let you put the original versions back if you need them.</font>
  • Next, delete the original townmskn.avi files.</font>
  • Third, use virtualdub to open one of the townmskn.avi files... say townmsk1_orig.avi.</font>
  • Save townmsk1_orig.avi in Vdub with the "Save old-format AVI" option with a new file name (townmsk1_new.avi).</font>
  • You should see some strange graphics appear; you will get back a large 32MB file.</font>
  • Repeat the previous steps for townmsk2.avi and townmsk3.avi</font>
  • Exit Virtualdub.</font>
  • In Windows Explorer copy each new file from townmskn_new.avi to townmskn.avi.</font>
  • Try to play the game at this point; if it works, stop here.</font>
  • If it doesn't, repeat the process with the three townhubn.avi files.</font>
*edit* I don't know why the list feature isn't working, but it's a list... trust me [img]smile.gif[/img]

*edit2* there it is... silly typo!

[ 02-06-2006, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

the Dark Neighbor 08-27-2006 12:07 AM

Ok, I'm new to this board. I've read all the posts related to W&W technical problems, but I've not seen my particular problem addressed yet. Before I get into it, here are my specs:

OS: Win98 (4.10, build 2222, if that matters)
Vid card: GeForce 5200
Direct X: 9.0
Memory: 318 MB

This is going to be long, but I want to be thorough. This problem is seriously driving me up the wall! Ok...
When I got W&W back in 2001, it worked fine, and it has worked fine since... until now. I'm running the patched version of W&W. I don't know why, but the speech, sound, display, town scenes, are all perfectly fine. I don't have any of the town display or speech problems that anyone else has had. However, if I leave town or load a saved game, the game runs fine for about 45 seconds to 1 minute, and then it abruptly hangs. It doesn't seem to be triggered by anything specific (e.g. no problems with speech, maps, animation, combat, or whatever), it just stops and does not respond to anything, not even CTRL + ALT + DEL (I have to hit the power button to get out). The cursor still animates, but it does not respond to the mouse. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling clean, but the result is always the same. Seriously, it was working fine about a week ago, and I can't think of anything I might have installed to cause a problem. My virus scanner and firewall are up to date, and they claim my computer is clean. I defragmented my hard drive, ran the DirectX diagnostic, and tried everything suggested for other peoples' crash problems, but nothing seems to be working. And of course, everything else on my computer works fine, it's just old (hey, I'm still runnin' Win98, after all).
Any ideas, ladies and gentlemen? I hope that's enough info, but let me know if you need more. Please, please, please, guys! If I can't fix this, I'll have to go back to Wizardry 8 for a while.

Thanks in advance. I love this website, by the way! Thanks to you guys's game tips, I had Cet quakin' in his boots before I had this crash problem. It seems he finally found a way to beat me after all this time... by cursing my friggin' computer! [img]tongue.gif[/img] Damn, that bastard fights dirty! :(

Bungleau 08-27-2006 11:38 PM

Welcome to the boards, the Dark Neighbor! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] I hope you'll be back about the Gael Serran soon...

A couple of thoughts come to mind... and while you may have done these, you didn't say so specifically, so you can skip over any you've already done :D

First, any chance you can add more memory? 318 is pretty sparce, and sounds like you've got a 256 stick with a 64 stick. Swap that 64 for another 256, and you should be much happier in general ;)

Second, what are your virtual memory settings? Basically, you'll want to set it to a fixed amount that's around 768MB. And when you've got that other stick of memory, set it to a gig. It has to be fixed, too... none of that "let Windows manage it for me" garbage.

Third... head over to www.trendmicro.com and have them do a full system scan for you. You have to do it in IE (last I recall), but even though you've checked for virii and malware, they can often find something more. I still do it...

Fourth... what version of DirectX? I had issues on XP when I moved up to 9.0C, and there's no good way to bust back to an earlier level.

Fifth.... what other programs do you have running when you play? There are a lot of things that run automatically that just cause grief... various helper programs and such. Use the task manager to eliminate anything you don't absolutely need. That means save Explorer, Systray, and your firewall or AV programs if you're always on-line. Maybe a couple of other things, but not much.

Give that a shot, and then post your results in another new thread. That way, everyone will see them and we'll get a shot at fixing it up for you.

the Dark Neighbor 08-30-2006 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bungleau:
Welcome to the boards, the Dark Neighbor! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] I hope you'll be back about the Gael Serran soon...

A couple of thoughts come to mind... and while you may have done these, you didn't say so specifically, so you can skip over any you've already done :D

First, any chance you can add more memory? 318 is pretty sparce, and sounds like you've got a 256 stick with a 64 stick. Swap that 64 for another 256, and you should be much happier in general ;)

Second, what are your virtual memory settings? Basically, you'll want to set it to a fixed amount that's around 768MB. And when you've got that other stick of memory, set it to a gig. It has to be fixed, too... none of that "let Windows manage it for me" garbage.

Third... head over to www.trendmicro.com and have them do a full system scan for you. You have to do it in IE (last I recall), but even though you've checked for virii and malware, they can often find something more. I still do it...

Fourth... what version of DirectX? I had issues on XP when I moved up to 9.0C, and there's no good way to bust back to an earlier level.

Fifth.... what other programs do you have running when you play? There are a lot of things that run automatically that just cause grief... various helper programs and such. Use the task manager to eliminate anything you don't absolutely need. That means save Explorer, Systray, and your firewall or AV programs if you're always on-line. Maybe a couple of other things, but not much.

Give that a shot, and then post your results in another new thread. That way, everyone will see them and we'll get a shot at fixing it up for you.

Thank you, Bungleau! It's good to be here!

Sorry I haven't checked back sooner; life outside the Gael Serran can be just as tedious as "doing the Rumphy!" :(

Okay, here's what we've got:

First: Yes, that’s right.

[Scabban impersonation]: “Good! Let us add more memory, yes, yes, yes...”

However, If I could afford to, I’d just buy a new computer instead of spending any more money on my current dinosaur of a PC. [img]tongue.gif[/img] I’ll head over to CostCo, and see what they have in terms of memory sticks.

Second: Okay, I’ll try that. And that, too. Like I said, everything was working fine before, even without the 256 MB add-on. Prior to 2002, I only had the 64 MB stick the computer came with when I bought it in 1999, and then I added the 256 MB stick just so my computer could handle Heroes of Might and Magic IV.

I’ve already manually set my Virtual Memory to 300MB, as per Willow IX’s suggestion from the Nov. 2002 post, but I’ll bump it up to 768 MB, like you said.

Third: Can’t do it. I can’t run other virus checkers while McAfee is running, and I dare not surf online without my firewall enabled. I’ll make sure I run another update and check my system again. I’ll keep everyone posted on this.

Fourth: According to dxdiag, my current version is DirectX 9.0 (4.09.0000.0900). How do I check if I have 9.0C? I’m running Win98, not XP, so that shouldn’t matter, should it?

Fifth: Nada. I use CTRL + ALT + DEL to close everything except Explorer and Systray, as per Willow IX’s September 2002 post. I even unplug my internet connection and turn McAfee off, just in case. It eats up a ton of memory, and as you know, I don't have much to spare.

I’ll do the memory thing and buy more of it, just in case, then I'll post my results to a new thread. Thank you so much for your help, Bungleau!

Bungleau 08-30-2006 11:26 PM

I'll respond in your other thread... but in brief...

3... go to TrendMicro anyway. McAfee shouldn't prevent you from running it... the worst you'll get is the two of 'em detecting each other. I never shut off my AV when I go there, and I've used McAfee, Norton, and AVG (my current preferred choice)

4... You're 9.0 flat. 9.0C is the current... the string of numbers would end with .0904. If it's still not behaving, consider bumping it up... but you can never go back :(

5... If you're unplugging your internet, see 2... you don't need firewall or AV then.

More thoughts on your other thread... ;)

Nanobyte 12-12-2006 11:43 AM

Has anyone ever experienced a problem with I/O? I've only experienced this with the 'movement' keys (i.e. up, down, left, right, or whatever I have assigned to those respective functions), but after I've released a key, the game doesn't seem to recognize that I have; I'll continue moving in that direction. The only solution I've found is to use the mouse, but as I'm sure most of you know, the mouse only allows you to move forward.

Any ideas as to what might be causing this? I'm running under XP with an unpatched copy. I've tried compatibility mode, but I don't think that's helped any.

Bungleau 12-12-2006 01:34 PM

I've not experienced that... but one thought that comes to mind is the keyboard itself. Can you swap a different keyboard in to see if you get the same results?

A second thought is the Accessibility settings in Windows. They may enable or disable automatic keystroke repetition.... I turn all those features off because they get in my way.

Give that a shot, and then make a fresh post. Not everyone looks for new posts in this thread [img]smile.gif[/img]


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