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Grand-Ranger 05-07-2001 01:53 PM

I hate them,it dosent make sence!!Even if it is the most powerful char in the game

think about it,A Kensai trains sooo much on battling with swords tobecome so good at it,so where dose have have time to learn spells?

and then flip it around

A mage has to spend hours upon hours to get his spells right he has to memorize every word too every spell,so where dose he have time to get soo good with the sword?

Leodrish 05-07-2001 02:08 PM

Yeh as I wrote in the "Evertone partisipate!" section.
They rock, but I admitt it's very strange.

Well, I played a halfelf Fighter/Thief in BGI and he was outstanding, not so great in BGII though, my favorite now is a human Kensai/Mage.
Started with a Kensai, let her reach tenth level, dualclassed to a Mage.
Equip her with Staff of Magi, Spear of Piersing and bracers of defence AC4.
Result:
Depending on memoriced spells.
Either:
A Mage with Incredible hitpoints, able to defendheself thanks to the kensai AC bonus and able to attack as well.
or:
An allmost invulnerable fighter thanks to stonskin, mantel, spellturning etc, with a few tricks up her arm, all from magic missile to disturb hostile mages to Khelbens warding whip to get through tuff defences.
Exellent character with no greater weaknesses i can discern.

Grand-Ranger 05-07-2001 02:55 PM

still dont make sence no matter how powerfull it is,if you people dont rember,this is a DND game,and DND is a RPING game,thus you are supouse to roll paly your chars even if it isnt required,and if you wear Rping the is no way you could be a Kensai/Mage

Throntar 05-07-2001 02:57 PM

Why not? That makes no sense... Explain.

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debiler 05-07-2001 04:24 PM

It depends. For pen & paper RPG´s, I would also play a char with reasonable abilities. But since BG2 is still a PC game and you´re supposed to have fun with it, there is no point why one should not take advantage of the possibilities offered. By the way, I´d never do this, myself cause there are ways to handle the game in other, more sincere ways(Swashbucklers and Jesters just rule).

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Grand-Ranger 05-07-2001 05:24 PM

Throntar,did you not read my first post?

and Debiler there is still ways you can have and still be realistic

Halbred 05-07-2001 08:28 PM

not eveyone who plays RPG games necessarily have the need to be immersed in the gaming environment/world that the rest of us to. i for one go for realism, and try to keep the game as believeable as possible. everyone has the right to theri playing style, no matter how bizarre or contradictory they may seem

Memnoch 05-08-2001 04:05 AM

The classic powergaming vs. roleplaying question. Have fun trying to figure it all out, fellas. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Halbred 05-08-2001 04:33 AM

oh no memnoch is gonna start a debate with those words http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Xod 05-08-2001 12:37 PM

The first time I played through, I used the coveted Kensai/Mage. Even with the exp. cap, they are way too powerful, depending on what level you dual-class them. I dual-classed at level 12. My Kensai/Mage was a real liability when she could only use a staff or dagger; it was also very challenging as well. But, as soon as she hit level 13 as a mage and regained her Kensai abilities, it was waaaaaay too easy. I usually left my party in a safe spot and cleared out entire areas myself.

As for the role-playing aspect, I think it is conceivable. You are the child of a god. Imoen managed to learn the mage arts in quick order, why not the PC as well? You grew up in Candlekeep, studying in one of the largest libraries in Faerun. I think that it is a stretch, but not out of the realm of possiblity.


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