Hello again well I guess I'm up and running but when I try tp load the patch it says the files already there and they don't match whats up with that??Do I need this patck ? The game seems to be working fine though a little dark in the dungeons and the light scrolls don't seem to do anythingh well back to the game check back later thanks for your help John

Go to the options screen and look at the bottom right. It should tell you which version you are using. It is possible that the retail version is now 1.05b, if not, I would advise patching. ;)