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Nerull 01-22-2005 09:53 AM

Well, the end of the season is finally rolling around. Tomorrow they play the conference championship games, with the winners going to the Super Bowl (and the week in between of nothingness so that they can hype the thing). I really like both matchups tomorrow. The game between the Eagles and Falcons is going to be pretty good, but the one that I think is going to be nasty is the game between the Patriots and the Steelers. Are you following the games this year? Who are you going for in those games? And who do you want to see win the Super Bowl? I just thought I would open up the discussion, as I haven't seen any threads on the subject.

Sir Degrader 01-22-2005 10:07 AM

GO PATS GO!

machinehead 01-22-2005 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
GO PATS GO!
I agree Sir Degrader. Go Pats!

Bahamut 01-22-2005 01:09 PM

I love both the Eagles and Falcons, so I don't know which to pick. :D I idolize Michael Vick (because I play like him) so I guess I am with the Falcons hehehe

As for the other game, am so sick of the Pats. I am going for the Steelers. Unlike the Colts, the Steelers have a better all-around game, both games will be a great thing to watch ;)

Marathon 01-22-2005 02:34 PM

Go Steelers!

Couldn't care less about the NFC...

Albromor 01-22-2005 03:26 PM

EAGLES! And boy will it be nasty tomorrow. Cold temperatures with up to 40 mph winds.

Nerull 01-22-2005 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Albromor:
EAGLES! And boy will it be nasty tomorrow. Cold temperatures with up to 40 mph winds.
Yep, in the teens (Fahrenheit) at both stadiums, and flurries in the morning at Philly. :D Bad for the Falcons, as they are a dome team. I'm sick of hearing about the Patriots, and I like both Pennsylvania teams (favorite team is the Eagles, though). So I'm rooting for an all-Pennsylvania Super Bowl, with Philly winning out.

Lord 01-22-2005 08:23 PM

Been rooting for the Eagles and Dolphins since I was a kid. Dolphins didn't get anywhere this year, but the Eagles are still going strong, even without TO. I'd like to see the Eagles against the Steelers.

Albromor 01-22-2005 08:23 PM

Hey, Nerull, how did you become an Eagles fan all the way down in San Antonia, Texas? I personally was born and raised in southeastern PA. By the way, I lived for 5 years in Texas south of Houston. Loved the people, got sick of the perpetual heat and humidity.

There are two things that scare me about tomorrows game: 1) The winds and the Eagles dominate offensive game plan is to pass and, 2) The Falcons are primarily a running team (Vick, Dunn, and Duckett) and tomorrows field conditions may very well favor them.

Bahamut 01-22-2005 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by Albromor:
There are two things that scare me about tomorrows game: 1) The winds and the Eagles dominate offensive game plan is to pass and, 2) The Falcons are primarily a running team (Vick, Dunn, and Duckett) and tomorrows field conditions may very well favor them.
Actually it will favor neither of them [img]smile.gif[/img] the field will be too slippery for any solid grounding so Vick might just slip and fumble again. And, the primary reason on why the Eagles are mostly passing is because McNabb doesn't have to run :D So if the situation calls for it, he will. In my opinion this game is more exciting because we have two very unpredictable teams. :D

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe 01-23-2005 12:22 AM

I think it will be Falcons, patriots. I mean the patriots embarassed superman Peyton Manning last week, in his MVP year, and Rothlesberger looked shaky at best last week. I think either way it is going to be a total snow bowl, so whoever makes their running game work better is going to come away with it. The same goes for the Eagles vs. Falcons game, but I think the Falcon obviously have a much stronger rushing attack. My picks though are Falcons Pats in the Superbowl With New England taking it.

Balintherlas 01-23-2005 12:52 AM

I dont like new england, but no self respecting browns fan would root for the steelers. Plus when tom brady's on, theres no stopping them, not too mention coery dillion tearing it up last sunday. The nfc's a different story, i like both teams and their both good, im gonna hav to go with philly cus of their d, i mean vick wont run for a 100 yards against them. itl be cool to see how michael jenkins steps up though.

Nerull 01-23-2005 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Albromor:
Hey, Nerull, how did you become an Eagles fan all the way down in San Antonia, Texas?
I live in San Antonio now, but moved here when I was 16. I'm originally from Trenton, N.J., which is so close to Philly that they were essentially our local stations (so we would get Philadelphia news, etc.). So I grew up with the Eagles on TV. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ok, now I'm really ticked off. I was really looking forward to the games today, but then Time Warner Cable had to just tick me off. They did some "work" on the local area and ended up pretty much knocking out my cable. We called them, and they stated that they will not fix it until January 31st. I can't even get the local stations, and the reception where I live is so bad that I can't tune them with a regular antenna. So I'm stuck going to a bar to watch the damn games! [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

Cerek 01-23-2005 11:09 AM

<font color=plum>I live just a little over 100 miles north of Atlanta. Just like <font color=yellow>Nerull</font> with the <font color=lime>Eagles</font>, that basically makes the <font color=red>Falcons</font> our "home" team. I would really like to see Atlanta get to the SuperBowl for the first time and I will naturally be rooting for them if they do.

On the other side, I like the <font color=yellow>Steelers</font>. I still remember the Iron Curtain defense from the 70's and how dominant they used to be with Bradshaw at QB, Franco as the running back, and Swan and Stalworth as the recievers. Man, those were the days.

I like Bill Cowher and would like to see him finally get the credit he is due also. So my personal choice would be to see the <font color=yellow>Steelers</font> vs <font color=red>Falcons</font> in the SuperBowl and I wouldn't really care won. Although I have to admit that an all-PA SuperBowl would be interesting to watch too.</font>

[ 01-23-2005, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: Cerek ]

krunchyfrogg 01-23-2005 11:31 AM

Whoever wins the Pats/Steelers game will win the Superbowl.

There's your little krunchy prediction. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm a Jets fan, so I'm rooting for who beat my team: The Pittsburgh Steelers.

BTW, both of these games are going to be great. I hope they didn't clean up the fields too much, I love watching football in the snow!

Albromor 01-23-2005 12:21 PM

Well Krunchyfrog, just to give you a little interesting piece of information I just learned yesterday, Lincoln Financial Field where the Eagles play has a tarp that keeps the field at a balmy 70 degrees!

And Nerull that is a bummer.

Balintherlas 01-23-2005 12:30 PM

i agree with krunchyfrogg, i think itl be an afc superbowl.

Balintherlas 01-23-2005 06:17 PM

The eagles are the NFC championship, falcons couldnt get their running game started.

Nerull 01-23-2005 06:24 PM

Eagles did a fantastic job defensively against the Falcons. Every time Vick bootlegged, there was an Eagle defender staring him in the face. In fact, other than a few good runs, the Eagles pretty much shut down the Falcons. I guess that old adage about defense winning championships is all too true. :D

Now let's see about the Pats and Steelers.

machinehead 01-23-2005 10:29 PM

Steelers suffer meltdown. News at 11! :D

Bahamut 01-23-2005 11:38 PM

The Falcons/Eagles was an exciting game to watch. Great defense shown by the Eagles and well, the Falcons are younger, and next year will be on of the elite teams to beat. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I was disappointed with the Steelers though... wow what an ugly end regarding their season. I mean come on, Pats are injury depleted and the have better defense than the Colts had! Their offense was lame, and their defense played like rookies. I turned it off before haltime when the score was 24-3, and I knew that the Steelers did not have it in them to come back. :(

I am all Eagles in the Super Bowl.

Albromor 01-24-2005 12:39 AM

I said to one of my friends who is a Steelers fan that I thought Rothlesberger (sp?) was playing too much like the inexperienced rookie that he is. If it wasn't for the Jets' woeful kicker they would have played NE instead of the Steelers. Roth almost single handedly gave it away last week. And if you look at his statistics he had 17 TDs and 11 Ints for the regular season. Not exactly great. Still he is going to be a very good quarterback in the years to come. Pittsburg will bounce back.

As for the Eagles, well they certainly came to play. And the defense virtually shutdown Vick and the running game. Should be an interesting Superbowl.

Nerull 01-24-2005 06:26 AM

Yes, I thought that the Steelers would give the Pats a better game, too. The Pats did a good job of shutting down the run, and forcing the ball into the rookie's hands to pull out the game.

I'm definitely behind Philly in the Super Bowl, but after watching the Patriots destroy Pittsburgh, I'm a little nervous about the upcoming game.

Bahamut 01-24-2005 06:52 AM

Since we're talking about football... I was wondering how many of you play football/flag football?? I am in need of good shoes, would soccer shoes do? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Albromor 01-24-2005 04:01 PM

Yes, soccer shoes will do just fine. I've played flag football quite a bit and if you get a decent pair you'll make all the cuts you'll ever need. ;)

Balintherlas 01-24-2005 10:55 PM

flag football, play tackle where u can actually put the kleats to good use.
As for the super bowl, even though i dont like them il hav to go with the pats. Brady and new england dont lose in the post season.

Cerek 01-25-2005 12:59 AM

<font color=plum>My hat is off to both of the winning teams. The <font color=lime>Eagles</font> simply dominated the <font color=red>Falcons</font>. It was simply a matter of the more experienced team winning. BOTH teams shot themselves in the foot on more than one occasion. Atlanta held Philly to a 3-and-out series, only to have a stupid penalty give Philly the ball back and an automatic first down. Philly went on to score their first touchdown in the game. I think it would have been a HUGE momentum shift if Atlanta had NOT committed that foul and gotten the ball back. They would have had decent field position and another chance to put more points on the board. Instead, Philly got their first touchdown and gained a big boost to their morale. Of course, Philly also committed some stupid fouls later in the game that led to Atlanta scores, but it was too little too late.

As for the <font color=silver>Patriots</font> and <font color=yellow>Steelers</font>, I really wanted Pittsburgh to win. But New England showed exactly why they've won the last two SuperBowls. They were unbelievable.

As for the Big Game itself, the <font color=lime>Eagles</font> are my sentimental favorite. It's been 34 years (IIRC) since they were in the SuperBowl last time - and as far as I know - they have never won (they lost to the Oakland Raiders in 1980). So I would like to see them win this year...but after watching the <font color=silver>Patriots</font> Sunday night, I just don't know if the <font color=lime>Eagles</font> can pull it off or not. The odds certainly aren't in their favor.</font>

Bahamut 01-25-2005 10:07 AM

Balintherlas, I will be playing Free Safety. I am the defensive captain of team and I idolize Brian Dawkins hehehe :D Just sharing

Cerek, I agree with you because the Brady has not lost a postseason game. I just hope McNabb makes more history by winning the Super Bowl :D All I know is that the Eagles will not be as lame as the Steelers and not as immature as the Falcons ;)

In Reid I trust :D

Nerull 01-25-2005 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Cerek:
As for the Big Game itself, the <font color=lime>Eagles</font> are my sentimental favorite. It's been 34 years (IIRC) since they were in the SuperBowl last time - and as far as I know - they have never won (they lost to the Oakland Raiders in 1980).
You are correct. They have never won the Super Bowl (I watched that game against the Raiders, and was so ticked when the Raiders manhandled the Eagles that game [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] ).

Balintherlas 01-26-2005 12:35 AM

Well atleast the eagles hav been to a superbowl. It has NEVER come through cleveland, alls we can say is "look how many championships we've won", its ridiculus.

Albromor 01-26-2005 12:36 AM

Nerull I still have memories sitting watching that Superbowl with my friends. We couldn't believe how uptight the Eagles were playing. It sure wasn't the team we watched during the regular season. Bill Bergey, the middle linebacker at the time, said just yesterday how Dick Vermeil had them uptight and that he wished he had fun during that time.

Nerull 01-26-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Albromor:
Nerull I still have memories sitting watching that Superbowl with my friends. We couldn't believe how uptight the Eagles were playing. It sure wasn't the team we watched during the regular season. Bill Bergey, the middle linebacker at the time, said just yesterday how Dick Vermeil had them uptight and that he wished he had fun during that time.
Yep...I just hope they are not as uptight THIS time around... :(

Cerek 01-27-2005 08:26 AM

<font color=plum>So do you think Terrel Owens should play even though the doctors haven't given him clearance?

I was watching a debate on a sports show yesterday and one of the guys said that - even when T.O. was healthy in San Francisco - he consistently came up short in the big games. He was great in the regular season, but he had a tendency to choke in the post-season.

A poll in Philadelphia showed that over half of the fans there felt he should NOT come back unless the ankle is 100% (or very close to it). They felt he would hurt the team instead of help it. They have done well without him so far and putting him now might just create a big distraction for the rest of the team.

I understand that T.O. wants to be on the field for his first SuperBowl, but he could end up tearing his ankle apart and missing a big portion (if not all) of next season too. Plus, I have always felt that Terrel was a glory-hound who cares more about his personal stats than he does the team, but that's just me.</font>

RevRuby 01-27-2005 08:35 AM

gee cerek, 34 years since 1980? sorry i'm an eagles fan as well haveing been born in 1980, i'm not 34! lol.

go eagles! i felt bad for my dad, he's a jets fan, but what i feel worse about is that they moved the superbowl. would have been on his (and justi's) birthday this year. last time it was her first birthday (his 45th.) we had a blizzard that day. oh well.

Nerull 01-27-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Cerek:
So do you think Terrel Owens should play even though the doctors haven't given him clearance?
Play? Yes, but in limited capacity. When you have an injured QB, sometimes they end up on the roster as the 2nd or 3rd QB. Do the same with T.O.; make him the 3rd wideout (behind Pinkston and Mitchell), and let him get out on the field on 3 and 4 wideout sets. Otherwise he rides pine.

The reason I say to play him: Chad Lewis. Injured and out, and he was one of the guys that really stepped up in the passing game this year. Hell, they had to call up a guy that has been out of football for 2 years to shore up the tight end spot with Lewis going down. They need warm bodies to catch the ball.

Bahamut 01-27-2005 10:13 PM

Regarding the TO situation...

I agree with you Cerek that he is going to be a distraction... for the Patriots. The Eagles will not be distracted with him returning because he has been a distraction the whole season, and it does not seem like it because the team is feeding off his energy. [img]smile.gif[/img] By putting TO in- like what the Vikes did with Moss earlier in the season- would screw with Crennel's head for at least a bit I hope.

Missing most of next season would not really matter to TO as long as he wins the Superbowl with the Eagles this season. You never know when you are coming back... unless you are New England.


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