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Jon the Hell Caster 12-29-2000 12:40 AM

wow! That must have been very intresting! Sorry I always wanted to do this






Lilan the Puzzled 12-29-2000 05:02 AM

First time I played the game, during the cult quest, out of the blue, Minsc just killed Jaheira!
They had had no discussions whatsoever, no bad words during the game, had not been recently charmed or dominated. He just began striking her, she did not react at all
Is this fight one of the possible ones in the game?

Rikard T'Aranaxz 12-29-2000 06:19 AM

don't worry about it jeheira sux as does minsc drop them both and get viconia and valygar (people are not gonna like this)

Have you recently attacked harpers?
Jaheira always gets pissed if you do that hehe
that why i always do it

Armisael 12-29-2000 07:59 AM

No comment...

Magness 12-29-2000 01:12 PM

Jahiera sux???!!!! I'll agree that Valygar's a lot better than most give him credit for.

Any romance aside, I far prefer Jahiera to Viconia. Jahiera is far more useful in melee given that she's a fighter/druid. Viconia's stuck as a pure cleric (thus somewhat limited in melee ... 1 attack per round, only proficient level weapons proficiencies). I must admit that my style of combat tends to lean towards the physical. I use my spell casters to support the tanks. Jahiera fits into my style quite well.

Sure, Vic's a great cleric, but I've grown to like seeing my undead victims turn into flying chunks of meat. That's the problem with evil clerics ... they just can't get the job done!!! Yeah, they can do a good job of charming the undead. But I'm an undead HUNTER, not an undead CHARMER!!!

Moriartty 12-29-2000 01:19 PM

"don't worry about it jeheira sux as does minsc drop them both and get viconia and valygar (people are not gonna like this)"

Your on drugs. Valygar is by far the dog of my party. No matter what I do this man has seen more Harper renewal spells than any other character in my party. He sucks big time.

Magness 12-29-2000 01:44 PM

Valygar is only a good NPC is he's used properly. He's not meant to be a frontline tank. I've used him as an archer/4th fighter/stealthy, backstabbing mage assassin very successfully.

When you put the Celestial Fury in his hands and play him as he's meant to be role-played (he is a Stalker, not a Berzerker, after all), Valygar can be a death-dealing machine.

If you play him the same way that you'd play Minsc or Korgan, Valygar will be calling MEDIC!!!!! far too often.

Moriartty 12-29-2000 02:43 PM

If Valygar had any sort of detect traps then he would be worth keeping around for what you suggest. A good thief though can do all you suggested and he can pick pocket and find traps.

I use Valygar as a second string fighter. He throws a few arrows in then charges in on the flank and hits the enemy after the enemy has fixated on one of my front line fighters.

I could keep him back firing arrows the whole time but I dont unless there is a mage to disrupt.

Why?

I try to play logically and by the rules. If an archer was to fire volleys of arrows off at two fighters in the distance he has equal chance of hitting either combatant. There is no real way to target just one guy when two are so closely together.

But that is just me playing my way, the game itself doesnt care about this. Just like how the game never considers where missed missle weapons end up.

Cleric 12-29-2000 02:50 PM

Right rikard , I don't like this , jaheira sux he
One thing :

<- I

Holy Mage Wah 12-29-2000 03:27 PM

Ok, I'm a Minsc hater - no regrets. So I left him for life feebleminded in his iron casge with a skeleton warrior for company!! On the other hand JAHERIA IS OK!! Do not underestimate her - she is one tough nut to crack with proper armour and weapons.

And finally - Valygar? hmmmmmmm...............well:

Valygar

I used him to get into the sphere and told him to piss off, (tough, that's life!!)
And I think that he is so boring - you might as well kill him anyway.

(Which is what I did!!)


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