I was fooling around in BG1 earlier and I noticed this. I've been told that the charisma of whomever you send to talk to a shopkeeper sets the prices. So I get my rep up to 20 and go to buy the dagger of venom. I send my mage to talk to him, because he just casted 2 friends spells. I scroll down, and notice that the dagger is still pretty expensive. So, just for kicks, I switch my party order so my mage is in the top/first/#1 slot, and what do you know? I'm paying half. Therefore, the party leader's charisma -is- important for more than just morale. Can anyone test this for BG2? I bet it's the same, but I'd like to be sure.

With this in mind, I think I'll take Keldorn for my party leader in BG2. Yeah, I could use the ring of human influence, but then that leader looses a ring slot that could have been used for a more combat useful ring.

Anywhos, just thought y'all would like to know.

I never really worried to much about
charisma, until I played a druid.
Charisma is one of the prime requisites
of the druid. You now have me curious
what a high charisma will mean in BG2.
I never worry about buying stuff because
I do all the quests, and always seem to
have enough gold.

You coulg just store the ring in your inventory and wear it only when you talk to a merchant in a shop.

Mitsos has the right idea. Just carry the ring around to wear when you feel like spending some of that ill-gotten gold.

but considering that it can also affect the results of quests and other NPC interactions (as well as morale in battle), it's actually quite useful to have a party leader with high charisma. I realize now that that I can't take Keldorn because I plan to have Vic along. But I wonder, if it effects -only- financial rewards and such, and not actual gameplay, then it doesn't really matter to me. Anyone have a way of definitively figuring this out?

true, but with the helm of glory and rose sword in combination with the ring (my leader was a paladin from BG1 so i already had a 19CHR from the tome) it brins you up to an amazing 23 (my char has 24) things are much cheaper, i also have a 20 rep so i pay very little for alot of great gear.

I don't know what the helm and sword do, but regardless, I don't think it's worth wasting all those equip slots on cha increasing gear. I think that with the ring alone will be good enough, and I'll put my PC (human cleric/mage) as party leader with multiple friends castings when it's time to shop. Too bad I can't take Keldorn (I want Vic), he would rock.

I think Charisma also plays in party stabilitity.

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I have Minsc and Edwin in my party. They suppose to fight and one must die. So far, 3 chapters and 100+ days, they have only talked 3 times. Edwin has 'threatened' to leave but always gives me a dialog choice to return right after. Just a thought.

dont sitch keldorn, unless you plan to have a romance with vicconia ditch her she gets extremley annoying and overall i dont think shes that powerful

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Personally, I think she's better/less annoying than Anomen. Besides, she fits better into the storyline.

has anyone tested this in BG2 yet?

the helm give +1AC/saves, and immune to panic, the sword is a longsword +3 that gives +2 chr, oh, bwt i forgot the nymph cloak, +2 chr and charm at will (the helm of glory and nymph cloak migh only have been carried through cause i was wearing them in bg1)

I meant has anyone tested the effect of party formation on sale prices and such.

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Heres a list of all charisma enhancing items:
Nymph?s Cloak; +2
Blade of Roses; +2
Plate of Balduran; +1
Helm of Glory; +
Sensate Amulet (Clerics only); +2
Axe of Hrothgar +3; +1
Ring of Human Influence; to 18
Boots of the West; +1 (not sure about this one)

My paladin (Chr 18) has:
Helm of Glory
Nymph's Cloak
BLade of roses
FOr a charisma of 23, add in
Boots of the West?
and Bladurans Plate
and you have a very good looking paladin (Chr 25!)

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Synthos, looks at
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Here's a list of all Charisma Enhancing Equipment
Nymph?s Cloak; +2
Blade of Roses; +2
Plate of Balduran; +1 (Collectors)
Helm of Glory; +1
Sensate Amulet (Clerics only); +2 (Collectors)
Axe of Hrothgar +3; +1
Ring of Human Influence; to 18
Boots of the West; +1 (not sure bout this one)

My paladin (chr 18) has these:
Nymph's Cloak
Blade of Roses
Helm of Glory
Add in
Boots of the West (?)
Baldurans Plate (Collectors)
Add i have one good looking guy with Charisma of 25


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*Slash*Slash*
Demi-Lich:Death
Synthos, looks at
Carsomyr +5...: Man I love this sword!

Here's a list of all Charisma Enhancing Equipment
Nymph?s Cloak; +2
Blade of Roses; +2
Plate of Balduran; +1 (Collectors)
Helm of Glory; +1
Sensate Amulet (Clerics only); +2 (Collectors)
Axe of Hrothgar +3; +1
Ring of Human Influence; to 18
Boots of the West; +1 (not sure bout this one)

My paladin (chr 18) has these:
Nymph's Cloak
Blade of Roses
Helm of Glory
Add in
Boots of the West (?)
Baldurans Plate (Collectors)
Add i have one good looking guy with Charisma of 25


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Demi-Lich:Death
Synthos, looks at
Carsomyr +5...: Man I love this sword!

oops, sorrry... (the more the merrier?)

ok, let me rephrase, I'm -NOT- looking to find out about charisma enhancing equipment. I was wondering if anyone could test to see if it's the person talking or the party leader (the person in the first position on the right), that would effect store prices. I found that it was the party leader in BG1 and I'm wondering if that's the case in BG2.

StarVid, it'll probably work. But these items will come in handy, remember that. My paladin gets discounts from items with a 19 char.

The manual says that it's the person with the highest charisma.. that it doesn't have to be your leader

Who knows fella's but its one damn good question. No one really cares bout charisma, until now. But i love it cuz i love discounts!

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