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Okay - For a long time I have dithered about contemplating whether or not I should just post some hacking lessons and let you players "have at it". Most of the time I decided against doing this because you can really (REALLY) mess up your game if you don't take basic precautions.

I taught myself to hack back when Wiz6 was new and I needed to replay the game very quickly just to check my notes for the walkthru I was writing. I have since hacked numerous games for a variety of reasons.
I am not a master of hacking by any stretch of the imagination but I do know enough to teach you all how to really get yourselves into a lot of trouble. ;)

So here's the deal - Do you want me to corrupt your innocent game playing by posting a thoroughly confusing explanation of how to hack ITEMS for W&W ??

Wyv

Lol!! Excellent Wyv!!Let´s just hope you don´t get too many replies, lol!!!

And of course: YAAY!!!

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[ 07-03-2002, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

hey Wyvern I have been working on the hacking you taught me and I am starting to learn how to change the roles of the characters.

I still have a little more work to be done if you know how can you tell me so I can finish up what I have been working so hard to do. Cause right now I am stuck.

Hey Wyv,
If you were to give us a little bit of your magical powers, I bet we could all run through the Gael Seran with stuff that are only in our dreams.

But....I could come out of retirement, and advance to who knows what level. Or....

How about some very powerful adversaries? Say with 25k hit points, attack 5/2, dealing out 250-300 points of damage per attk, immune to magic, steel, and arrow. Hmm, doing the kung-fu tango with a 3 headed T-Rex sounds very enticing.

I have probably found all that is, ever will be, and ever was in this very addicting game. Termed computer crack, Me tinks.

I'd wager some of the next post would probably start with, WYV; I NEEEEDDD HEEELLLLPPP.

Me tinks this should be left to the tinkers, and leave the boogres to brawl.

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Felix The Retired Master of The Night

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif ...As much as I would reeallyy like to learn how to hack.....I tend to agree with Felix...

Quote:

I'd wager some of the next post would probably start with, WYV; I NEEEEDDD HEEELLLLPPP.

Only I would say Alot rather than some.... http://www.armbcr.org/smiley/mummygrab.gif

Besides...a little head scratching ...is good for the soul.

[ 07-03-2002, 07:10 PM: Message edited by: Packrat ]

Okay - I'll relook over the email explanation I sent to Xignal a while back to teach him to hack items and brush it up. As I warned you - it will be a bit confusing until the "light dawns" and then it is all too simple!

I never tried to alter monsters' stats and the like. Some of you might be able to figure that out.

While you're waiting - go out and get yourselves a nice hex editor. I use HexEdit. Open up one of your save files with it and note how the display has 2 columns - left side is in hexcode and the right almost appears to be english at times (sometimes it is!). Using the scroll bar, scroll yourselves right down to the bottom of the file and click somewhere in the text. Scroll up and look around a bit - you'll find your character names in this area and inventory items - KEWL!
Now close up that save file without doing anything!

NEVER EVER EDIT A FILE WITHOUT FIRST MAKING A BACKUP!!!!! EVER!!!!!

(and I mean that!)

Wyv

Which HexEdit do you use? The freebie, (v1.03) Windoows, ( $30 2.2) or ???

Doesn't really matter as far as I can tell which version of HexEdit or any other hexeditor you care you use.

I bought mine and registered it. I use it often enough that I should indeed reward the author for his efforts! ;)

Wyv

Just bought a second puter... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif..(for gaming)...so I'll probably try a freebie for now.

( http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon16.gif ..too many things left to do and still a few toys left on the shopping list)

I'll try to get to the REAL instructions later today - time permitting - but until then I thought I would tell you a bit more about what you're looking at when you use your Hex Editor to open a save file.

Scroll on down to the bottom of the file again and find one of your characters and any of the items in their inventory.

The code for a particular item does not start with the name. Put your cursor on the first letter in the name of the item and see where the "shadow cursor" is over in the hexcode. Continue to look to the left of that place.

Now if you happened to be looking at the code for the Tome of Fire what you would see to the left of where you cursor is placed is:

0B 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 (and then the hex for Tome of Fire)followed by a whole bunch of 00 00s until you get to the next item.

those are all zeros in case you weren't sure.

the "0B" is the icon code, the graphic code. the "04" has to do with how much space it occupies in the inventory. I'm not positive about the "01". I don't think it is quantity since you can only have one of these per game.

Get used to the code format where I will be listing hexcode then the name of the item (which is in the righthand column, not the hex side) and then hexcode. I found it so much easier to just write the name of the item since you can edit in both columns (hex or text) than to write out the hexcode for "Tome of Fire" or whatever.

METHOD OF EDITING - I use a simple replace one item with another, overwriting the code of some unimportant item with the wanted item.
This is safer than trying to figure out where to stick in a new item.

and remember: ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP OF THE FILE YOU ARE GOING TO EDIT!!!

That's enough information right there to get you in heaps of trouble! ;) More later!

Wyv

Okay - Basic W&W hacking 101

Get yourself a nice hex editor - I use hexedit. You should be able to grab that online.

Backup any save file you plan on editing. Backup any save file you plan on editing. Backup any save file you plan on editing. Don't say I haven't warned you!!

What I generally do is put the incoming gamexx.sav files into a folder "Downloads" in my documents. I copy the gamexx.sav over to the W&W save directory (having moved all my own gamexx.sav s into a backup folder of their own).

I start up the game and load the players gamexx.sav and look over the names and the inventory.

What I'm looking for is some cheapo item that they're never going to miss. Ideally, this character should have only one such item in their iventory. If they have more than one - consider moving the others to another character and saving the game before hacking.
I write down the name of the character just so I don't forget. ;)

IF the item to be hacked is the same size as the item I'm going to hack over - I just exit the game.

IF the item is larger than said cheapo item, I move it on the inventory screen so there is a nice amount of space around it - very useful when hacking larger items such as armor.

I've got my machine set up so that if I right click on a file name one of the options that pops up is HexEdit. You can just open your hex editor and load in the file from the W&W save directory.

Hex editors display the file in 2 columns. The left hand column is all the hex numbers (note that all the hex numbers are displayed in columns of 2, such as CF 00 00 00 04 00 00 00) and the right hand column (at least it is that way in HexEdit) is "readable". A lot of it really isn't readable but you'll notice names and item names in this section which are easy to read. Scroll almost all the way to the bottom of the file -

You need to click somewhere on the screen off the scroll bar in this area to get it to "hold" you place and not automatically start from the beginning of the file for the next move.

In HexEdit the command is ALT E (to get the edit menu) and F to get the find menu - type in the name of the character who has the item you're going to hack.

To check to see that you are in the last listing of this particular character (each gamexx.sav lists each character 3 times! but don't panic - you need only be concerned with the last listing) - hit the F3 key. The F3 key is a "find again" command, if it doesn't find the name again, you are in the right spot to start hacking. If it does find the name again- you are now in the correct spot to start hacking - a win win situation!

Slowly scroll down the screen under the character name looking for the item you are going to replace.
Found the name? Okay - here is what you have to do and where I will probably totally confuse you! lol!!

Place your cursor under the first letter of the item name - Type in the new item's name right over the old item's name.

If the new item's name is shorter than the old item's name you are going to have to correct that on the HEX side but this is an easy thing. Note while you are typing in the Text Column that there is a "mirror" cursor happening in the Hex Column. Using your mouse click on the hex side where the cursor is AFTER you have finished typing in the new name. If the values (hex numbers) are anything but "00" type in "00" (that is zero zero, not capital O capital O) until the old name on the TEXT side disappears. Just the name - don't 00 over anything else just yet!

Have I lost you yet? (don't worry, I will! ;) )

Okay, move your cursor to the first letter of the new item name on the HEX side - the actual code for an item starts out 10 hex columns before the name of the item.

Here's an example:
CF 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00
47 6C 6F 77 73 74 6F 6E 65 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......

CF = the item number, this defines the picture used
04 = is the item inventory space indicator, how much space in the inventory the item takes/type of item

47 6C 6F 77 73 74 6F 6E 65 = Hex for Glowstone
If you were to ask me for the code for Glowstones - I would send you it in this format:

CF 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Glowstone 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......
see below for more explanation

Following "Glowstone" you will see on the hex side a lot of "00"s until you see the start of the next item. Glowstones are an easy hack - there is no addition code needed to create them - the only thing you do have to look for is the space between their name and the beginning of the next item needs to be all "00"s.

I've never bothered to count out how many hex colums there are total for an item - it's always been easy for me to figure out where one item ended and another started. If you need me to count them out for you - let me know and I will.

Now something like an Assassin's Dagger has extra modifiers in the code.
I'm going to give you an example of my code shorthand so you might as well get used to how this works. Just remember that the first thing to replace is the NAME which you do on the TEXT side. okay??

The code for an Assassin's Dagger is this:

EC 00 00 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 Assassin's Dagger 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00 0F ...

This is the hex side ^ ... This is Text side ^ ... This is hex side ^

To edit any item - you will be starting in the TEXT side and then moving over to the HEX side to complete the edit.

Once you think you have all the changes correct - save the file and run W&W and load the game.

Check the character's inventory to see if they have the item. Check the item to see that it is named correctly and has the attributes you might expect it to have - Glowstones will tell you it's a key. Assassin's Dagger is going to list that it is a restricted item and the various damage it does, etc.
If everything looks good - zip it up and ship it back to the player.

If it doesn't look good, exit the game, delete the file you edited, copy over the original save game to the SAVE directory and start over.

I've got the code for many items, not all items. I can ferret out many more but I have a list of those I've hacked most often.

If this much makes sense to you - great, I've got some other tidbits I can fill you in on. If this doesn't make sense, well, it's a start. Where exactly did I loose you?? LOL!!!

Instant ZenMasters

0B 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Fire 00 etc.

0C 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Wind 00 etc.

Gee - can you figure out what the other two are going to be??

Yeah - like this is rocket science - NOT!

Wyv

Forgot to remove Red (blushes)

[ 07-04-2002, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: Wyvern ]

And how about editing STATS and other stuffes -

Well, I'll tell you - you are far better off going and grabbing the editor from Xignal's site than trying it on your own now that you are messing around with a hex editor.

I personally never bothered to figure out where the skills were stored, so I couldn't help you with that anyways BUT I did figure out where the stats were stored........ That isn't hard to figure out but the tricky bit is your character information and inventory is stored in THREE separate areas within the save file (yuk). While editing the last entry is good enough to get you an item, it isn't good enough to change your stats. You have to make any changes to all three areas and they all have to be exactly the same! If you're really curious about this, the locations are: roughly right in the middle of the save file and two at the very end of the save file. Strange but true!

Wyv

TRIVIA:

Why did I bother to figure out how to hack items in W&W? I had one of those rare games in which the Glowstones do not show up where they are supposed to be so I was stuck. So I hacked a Glowstone.

CF 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Glowstone 00 ....etc.

That's what started it all! :D

Wyv

All of the Tomes

0B 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Fire 00 etc.
0C 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Wind 00 etc.
0d 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Water 00 etc.
0e 01 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 Tome of Earth 00 etc.

Those are some of the ones I found out.

I am still working on finding some other items.

[ 07-04-2002, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: Loumistro ]

thank you wyv [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img]

[ 07-19-2002, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: chi master ]

Can you hack me a Nuclear Bomb? I want to use it on the desert around Cet's pyramid.

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Bumping this and making it sticky (cause I can) lol!!

Red made me do it!!

C4 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 The Mavin Sword 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 04 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 02 blah blah blah

Had to ferret through my collection (huge) of save files (not just my own).
Hope I got all the 00 correct!

@Wyvern,

are those save files up for D/L somewhere?? I try to compile a list with the hex codes of the main items in the game. Also looking for info`s on enchantments. The old links are dead now.

thx

hey wyv.... this may seem a little stupid and annoyingly time consuming... but can u get me the hex code for incence cones... or serpent coins.... cause i was trying to get incence cones but i had no more coins... :(

anyway ty

MJG

I need the code for the dragons arrow to finish the guild quest, i lost it somehow or never received it