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Fulliotomatix 10-31-2001 12:03 PM

Hello..first timer here...nice forum...

Got some questions for the experts here.

Lately I've been enjoying playing my Skald but I realize that they get the shaft with the enhanced bard song which would mean that a Blade or non-kit bard would have the same song as the Skald.

I've started a new game recently with a Jester since there are some improvements with the latest patch which also give them Stun and one other thing (hold?).

My new tactic is cast on myself non-detection, invisibility and then turn on my song. Then walk into any group of baddies. Works pretty well in spite of the +4 they get to their savings throws.

I didn't check myself but does the party get the experience when the monsters start killing each other? Anyone know? If I don't get the XP then this tactic is pretty much worthless I would think.

I need to try a Blade soon. Sounds interesting. Any comments on the worthwhileness (sp?) of Blades?

In my current Skald game (which I am going to stop playing I think) I have my Skald, Jaheira (love interest), Minsc, Anomen, Keldorn and Imoen.

Full


Dundee Slaytern 10-31-2001 12:26 PM

Bard tactics

You do not get Xp if hostile monsters kill hostile monsters, you only get Xp if it is your own summon. If you have ToB, Blades rule.

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SecretMaster 10-31-2001 03:43 PM

K, i'm a bit late but, KEEP THE SKALD. You'll thank me. Theyre song at higher levels makes u immune to Mind Flayer stun! And great bonuses, i love them.

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Sorcerer Alex 10-31-2001 05:04 PM

I've played the game with every class/kit, and the skald is fantastic, I'm sticking with it. I'd advise you to do the same http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

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Fulliotomatix 10-31-2001 05:47 PM

Why is the Skald fantastic?

With ToB (which I have) ALL Bards can get the Enhanced Bard Song which makes the Bard song the same. Even the Blade can have the same song as the Skald. Plus with the Spins the Blade has better combat bonuses than the Skald.

The only thing that the Skald has better than the Blade would be Lore. But 1/2 the lore of a level 20 Blade can ID pretty much anything anyways. Lore in general is useless in ToB since you have Pocket Plane and can just cast Identify a million times if you want.

Hmmm...really wondering why Skald is so great apart from an rp'ing aspect which I would completely understand.

Dundee Slaytern 11-01-2001 01:33 PM

My general rule of Thumb is... if you are only playing SoA, go with the Skald, if you are going to continue to ToB, go with the Blade.

If you intend to solo, and you have ToB installed, definitely go with the Blade.

Addictman 11-01-2001 04:10 PM

I agree that the Skald is best in Bg2, but remember when you get to TOB and get high-level skills, all the bard songs become the same, and then I think the Jester is best, since that class has no disadvantages.

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Fulliotomatix 11-01-2001 04:56 PM

Well the disadvantages of Jesters are :

1) confused enemies that kill each other = you do not get the XP.
2) +4 to their savings rolls and I suppose at high levels those monsters have incredible saving throws anyways. So for the song to ever be effective you'd always have to cast a few Greater Malaison (sp?). Top that off with some lower resistances and you have to provide a lot of spell power for the Jester's song to really become effecttive. Then you have to hope that you stun them instead of confusing them or else you may lose some XP if they kill each other.


So now I agree with one of the previous posters saying that Blades are the best.


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