Hello again!

To become a real Wizards & Warriors professional don't forget the following:

Books - Don't use _to much_ spellbooks to learn new spells! You'll only get 10 mana-points each. If you learn a spell by level-up it's the result of your spirituality (SPIR = 18 makes 18 points).

Ankhs - To get your stats higher with ankhs or amulets still wait until a result of 18, the MAX of level-up. The MAX of an ankh is 24!

Fallagar

Good tip about the Ankhs. I have one of my less strong pcs carring about 10 of 'em just waiting for someone to get to 18 to get super (fill in blank). I've got a 11 lvl Paladin/9 level Samuri at 20 str and a 11 lvl Warlock 10 lvl Ninja with Spir of 21! Hehe. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

BK

One more tip about Ankhs:

Later in the game, when you get the 7th level spell "Summon Fiend", you can use this to generate more ankhs! You MUST have a character skilled in pickpocket, though.

1) Wait for a monster to attack.

2) Cast "Summon Fiend" on the monster.

3) If you're lucky, you'll get one of the Ice Elementals or Hellspawn demons (the Haleabus-looking critters that are either indigo or red colored). While they're battling the monster, pick their pockets! They almost always carry an ankh (I'd say 3/4 times).

4) Once the battle's over, they wander off and eventually fade away.

Repeat as many times as you wish. I find the Enchanted Isle west of Brimloch Roon is a great place to do this, as it spawns monsters with a HUGE frequency. The Isle of Sands (near the Pyramid) is another good place.

I was able to get my "Chosen One" character up to all stats 24 using this technique on my last play-through, and all the other characters had stats above 20; quite a few at 24.

-Sazerac

Something else about Ankhs. Don't use them on the stats you can train in the guilds (Strength for example) until you've maxed them out with guild training, meaning a 20 strength. That way you don't use up more Ankhs than you need to. This can be expensive but it's well worth it. Do you know what kind of damage a Barbarian with a Battle-axe that does 14-36 damage can do with 24 strength? It's insane!

-Jafin

Okay...I can't believe I'm going to ask this, but

HOW CAN YOU TRAIN STATS IN GUILDS ABOVE LEVEL 18???

I've never been able to do it! Every time I get to level 18 I'm told I can't train the stat any higher.

Is there a trick?

-Sazerac

To train a stat above 18 in a guild, just click on the icon for the stat you want to train, no trick to it! It says that you can't raise _Pick you stat_ any further but in actuality you can. It's just really expensive. 9,000 for 19 and 10000 for 20 if I remember correctly. It's not even a bug. After you hit 20 the icon disappears, as if it were a trait you just got or something.

-Jafin

Jheez, Jafin! I gotta quit believing everything I read!!!

5 playthroughs through the game and NOW I find this out!

Hey, give yourself a HUGE pat on the back...you taught the Saz-man something! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no.../xyxthumbs.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

-Sazerac

I actually found out about it on accident. I mistakenly clicked on the stat button after it was 18 (I think it was Strength) and it said "The Clan has strengthened ya!" and I went "What?!" I looked at my stats and lo and behold! I had a 19 for strength! I also noticed that I was out of money http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. A while later I got the strategy guide and it mentioned how to do it in there. I guess it's not totally useless.

-Jafin

Unbelievable!!!

Jafin, from now on we want to hear about all your accidents http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Saz, 5 playthroughs through the game without an accident? Are you play too carefully? You know the penalty? Be so kind and put it in TIPS section http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

This innovation belongs to the BEST TIPS thread.

Fallagar