When swimming in Dragonspire, your freestyle always sucks, but your backstroke on the other hand is better than any that we saw in the olympics (use the reverse arrow guys!!!)

Regards
Davros

OH, and lots of things can be invoked for traits, not just those green amulets - pass things around amongst the group and see who the item works for if a nifty looking item has the "Restricted" sign up.

Here is the table for all the Role Ascensions, their quest requirements, and where you go to fulfill them.

<table border="2" cols="3" width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5"><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Role</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Quest</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">To Complete:</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Barbarian
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/barbarian.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Kill 20 opponents single-handedly</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Warrior's Guild in any city</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Bard
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/bard.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Obtain the Scroll of Trickery from Kreug's Study above the library in the Serpent Temple</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Thieves' Guild (Ishad N'ha and Brimloch Roon)</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Monk
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/monk.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Wander 2 game days (48 game hours) with nothing equipped</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Bushi Dojo Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Ninja
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/ninja.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Lower the main drawbridge to Shurugeon Castle</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Bushi Dojo Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Samurai
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/samurai.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Retrieve the Baton of the Spirit of the Samurai, found in the graveyard just east of Shurugeon Castle</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Bushi Dojo Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Ranger
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/ranger.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Obtain an egg of a raptor (one can be found on the east side of the snake river, just southwest of Toad Village, or on the islands west of Brimloch Roon)</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to Warrior's Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Paladin
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/paladin.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Pray at the Altar of Serran (either west of the Gypsy House near Nymph Lake or in the extreme southwest corner of the Lost Sea region west of Brimloch Roon), say "Sanctus Holy"</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to the Temple Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Warlock
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/warlock.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Retrieve a spider's egg and a skeleton's skull</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to EITHER the Wizard's Guild or the Temple Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Assassin
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/assassin.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Talk to Scanthril (northwest of Ishad N'ha near the burned house) about a "job". Accept the job to kill Raskalion. Find Raskalion in the Stout Mines and kill him. Return to Scanthril and get Assassin's Dagger</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Take Assassin's Dagger to Thieves' Guild</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Valkyrie
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/valkyrie.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Find the heart of the Lich G'Ezzered Ra in the pyramid of Cet and burn it in the Urn of the Black Fire. ONLY FEMALE CHARACTERS CAN DO THIS!</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Return to the Temple Guild of Brimloch Roon.</TD></TR><TR><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Zenmaster
http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/zenmaster.jpg </TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="33%">Find the four Tomes of Creation. The Tome of Fire is in the Serpent Temple, west of the Naga Chamber behind a locked gate. The Tome of Wind is in the Boogre Caves, in S'Keser Da's room. The Tome of Water is in a chest on the pathway to the Library of Collasium. The Tome of Earth is in a hidden room in Cet's Pyramid that can be opened by flipping a jackal-head switch at the end of a hall with bloodstains that delivers crush damage. The tome is inside that chest.</TD><TD align="left" valign="top" width="34%">Take all four tomes to the Brimloch Roon Bushi Dojo Guild.</TD></TR></TABLE>

[This message has been edited by Sazerac (edited 05-05-2001).]

Saz - THANKS!!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Got another great tip for you guys...

Ever want to save back a skull or two to become a Warlock, but greed ol' Sir Elgar keeps snagging them for the Bounty Quest every time you visit Town Hall? Is that's what's bothering you, pooky?

Well, fear no more! You can sell your skulls at the Armory and buy them back at very little charge. HOWEVER: If you sell them all "stacked", they sell altogether, but only one will remain to buy back.

To get all the skulls back, sell them one at a time by "divvying" them out. You can buy back as many as you want now, at your leisure.

But that's not all! This trick works with ALL stackable items...especially those Serpin Coins needed for the Thieves' Guild quest in Ishad N'ha! Store multiple potions, arrows, and other stackable items for good in the stores...at the same quantities at which you sold them!

So remember, kids, divvy before you sell!

This is a public service message from Sazerac. Void where prohibited. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Another infinite gold trick, once you're a member of the bushi dojo buy a take(something or other) arrow for ~400 gold and sell it back for 1900! This works very well with a character with the merchant trait. You can buy as many arrows as you want and keep selling them back!

Frazlo

SAZ- excellent job

another tip for newbies: no drinking on the job
drinks from the tavern only takes your mana away

to add: excuse my sig line at my old posts
I honestly thought the link would be permanent

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[This message has been edited by adam warlock (edited 05-06-2001).]

Here's a trick to get all your stats to 18 before you start the crypt:

1- Get your original class character to climb up to lvl 4-5
2- Change your role
3- Immediately after changing your role, reset the adventure (this will delete any info the game as from your previous roles)
4- Climb up to lvl 4-5 (now you always get stats points)
5- Repeat from step 2 until your character as 18 in all stats (or desired stats attained.)

Just remember to reset the adventure in a role that you DON'T plan on being later in the game (barbarian is a good on)

For the Monk quest:

1- Climb the city wall
2- on the other side, unequip everything, save your game
3- go to bed, visit a friend (etc...)
4- about 4-5 hours later, come back
6- save your game
7- go in town... you should now become a monk

TIPS:
a)make sure you unequip EVERYTHING... you can still have stuff in your inventory though
b) if you go into town, and the dojo tells you that you didn't complete your monk training, RELOAD the game and wait another hour then repeat step 6-7 until you become a monk.

the thing i do the most is save the game offen
then once a week I copy my save games to other
files !
Still have my saves for mm6,7,8 Wizardy 6,7
even have saves for other games

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Hi Ho Hi Ho
It's of to play we go

T H A N K S
Eiz

Another of my mighty tables...by popular demand.

<h1>XP per level table</h1>

<table cols="7" width="560" border="2" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5"><tr><td width="16%" align="left" valign="top">LEVEL</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Rogue</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Warrior</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Wizard
Priest
Ranger
Barbarian
Monk</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Samurai
Paladin
Bard</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Ninja
Warlock</td><td width="80" align="left" valign="top">Assassin
Valkyrie
Zenmaster</td></tr>
<tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>2</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">900</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">1000</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">1100</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">1200</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">1300</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">1500</td></tr>
<tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>3</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">2250</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">2500</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">2750</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">3000</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">3250</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">3750</td></tr>
<tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>4</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">4275</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">4750</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">5225</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">5700</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">6175</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">7125</td></tr>
<tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>5</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">7313</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">8125</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">8938</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">9750</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">10,563</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">12,188</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>6</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">11,869</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">13,188</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">14,506</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">15,825</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">17,144</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">19,781</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>7</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">18,703</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">20,781</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">22,859</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">24,938</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">27,016</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">31,172</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>8</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">28,955</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">32,172</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">35,389</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">38,606</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">41,825</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">48,258</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>9</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">44,332</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">49,258</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">54,184</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">59,109</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">64,035</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">73,887</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>10</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">67,398</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">74,887</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">82,375</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">89,864</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">97,353</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">112,330</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>11</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">101,997</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">113,330</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">124,663</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">135,996</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">147,329</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">169,995</td></tr><tr><td width="80" align="right" valign="top"><h3>12</h3></td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">153,896</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">170,995</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">188,095</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">205,194</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">222,294</td><td width="80" align="right" valign="top">256,493</td></tr></table>

[This message has been edited by Sazerac (edited 05-23-2001).]