Ok in the manual it mentions 3 ablities that supposedly bards and theives have, Detect Noise, Climb Walls and Read Languages, it says that theives have 15% detect noise, 60% climb walls, 0% read languages. And for the bard, 20% detect noise, 50% climb walls, and 5% read languages. Are these stats only for scripted events or do they acually have some sort of practical uses?

These are not used in BGII - but I suspect the information was just ripped from AD&D rules without thinking about the fact there was no application for them in BGII. I've often thought it would be cool if you could climb stuff though...

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damn, it really would be cool to be a theif and scale walls and stuff. Come to think of I, that would add a new demnsion to the game. Imagine scaling the walls of the De'Arnis Hold instead of just going threw the secret door.

I am playing through (1st time) as a Half-Orc Fighter/Thief. If there is no "detect noise" or whatever, should I be using a helmet?

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Helmets only give you some special effect of the helmet and to avoid Critical hits

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being able to scale walls would lead to some interesting baskstabbing

you could climb up right beside someone and silently remove their spine with your blade

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