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WillowIX 07-25-2002 05:52 PM


<a name="mi">Mini Index</a>
1) Game Crashes
2) Graphics Problem
3) Installation Problems
4) Pregame Issues
5) Sound Problems
6) Windows Issues

Index

<a name="a">1.</a> Game Crashes
1.1 - Game crashes during Cet - Kerah fight (p5-10)
1.2 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message (my post page 9)
1.3 - Game crashes when equipping the Vampire ring (p7-21+23)
1.4 - Game crashes when giving/using item (my post page 9)
1.5 - Game crashes when leaving Valeia (p5-9)
1.6 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message
1.7 - Game freezes when casting a spell
1.8 - Game freezes when disarming chests (my post page 9)
1.9 - Game freezes temporarily when talking (p3-12)
1.10 - Game freezes when trying to cast a spell (my post page 9)
1.11 - Game runs slow the crashes(p3-19)
1.12 - Mmsystem 266 error or black screen in the game (p1-23)
<a name="b">2.</a> Graphics Problems
2.1 - Black screen on launch (p1-23)
2.2 - Game crashes when leaving Valeia (p5-9)
2.3 - Game is dragging or generally slow (p3-7)
2.4 - How to change swap file size (isnīt in there, I can do the win2k OS)
2.5 - I can see the options, but when in the Town itīs dark (p1-23)
2.6 - Known problems with DirectX 8
2.7 - Tip for the Windows swap file (p5-16+17+20)
2.8 - TNT graphics card conflicts
<a name="c">3.</a> Installation Problems
3.1 - How to install manually (not in there but Iīll put it in the new thread)
3.2 - Installing a new video card (p4-5)
3.3 - Update CD drivers to 32-bit (p2-15)
<a name="d">4</a>. Pregame Issues
4.1 - Canīt enter buildings in town
4.2 - How to remove DirectX 8
4.3 - How to use Virtualdub
4.4 - Known problems with DirectX 8
<a name="e">5.</a> Sound Problems
5.1 - Game freezes temporarily when talking (p3-12)
5.2 - No sound in the Game
6<a name="f">.</a> Windows Issues
6.1 - <a href="http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=007459#61>Canīt enter buildings in town (win2000/XP)</a>
6.2 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message (win2000/XP)
6.3 - Game crashes when giving/using an item (2000/XP)
6.4 - Game freezes when disarming chests (win2000/XP)
6.5 - Game freezes when trying to cast a spell (win2000/XP)
6.6 - No links in start menu after installing (win2000/XP)
6.7 - Turn on compatibility mode in win2000
6.8 - Problems running W&amp;W in Windows 98 and Windows Me
6.9 - How to change swap file size
6.10 - Tip for the Windows swap file
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[ 07-31-2002, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

WillowIX 07-25-2002 05:56 PM

"Mini index" links added, whole index in alphabetical order (except general info which deserves to be 1st donīt it?). Rephrased entries according to Bungleauīs excellent advise, the same with the numbers, added the TNT graphics card conflict, removed some double posted entries and of course got rid of those pesky extra line breaks. :D :D

BTW Wyv, would you like a link to your hexedit thread in here as well?

[ 07-25-2002, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

DeathDragon 07-25-2002 06:11 PM

Looks real sweet. Is there a way that you can make a thread that only certain people can post stuff at?

You should also create one on how to put smiley faces in the text. BTW how do you do that?

DeathDragon
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Once you see a Death Dragon
It's already to late
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WillowIX 07-25-2002 06:17 PM

Well, everyone will be able to post in the thread if the run into a new problem (thereīll be an "Unsolved" category as 10 I think). When theyīre answered the solutions will be integrated in the corresponding category. The smileys isnīt really a tech issue. But Iīll tell you how to put them in here, to get a regular smiley you just type ": )" without the blank. A very happy smiley is ": D". Check the graphics library button topside to see loads of smileys! You put those in here by typing for example : blueblink : (without blanks) --> [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

DeathDragon 07-25-2002 11:20 PM

The unsolved catagory is a really good idea. BTW thanks for tell me how to make the smilies [img]graemlins/internet.gif[/img] There are some very interesting ones there. Also, what does Elite Watergate Guard mean? I've been wondering that for a little while.

DeathDragon
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Once you see a Death Dragon
It's already to late
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Bungleau 07-25-2002 11:50 PM

I like, I like!

Thanks, WillowIX, for putting this all together. !Muchas gracias!

I think this thread should be for technical problems only; hexedit really isn't a tech problem (although, as I think about it, it can probably cause some!). Perhaps it should be included with the standard warnings.

And I like the unsolved problems idea, too! That leaves room for the future, and to find the future.

Methinks Smilies belong on a forum best tips thread, not a W&W-specific thread. But hey, I've been rambling a lot these past few days...

And finally, Elite Waterdeep Guard is a title in the forum. Consider it like a level; as you post more, you gain experience and move up. It comes from Spelljammer, an RPG originally from TSR (and now retired, I think). When the boards were put together, a lot of titles were compiled from a variety of places. To find out more about your current title, do a google search on it and you'll find some stuff. That's how I found out what a manshoon was... yuk! [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img]

[ 07-25-2002, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

the_young_one 07-26-2002 03:56 AM

Willow & Bungleau, I think you've put in a wonderful effort creating the index and lists. I've looked at the items and there is a lot of duplication and the solutions are actually few in number. Why don't you simplify the list into three new threads:

1. Read this if you're playing the game in Windows 2000 or XP
2. Technical problems with graphics/sound/memory
3. Known problems in the game and some workarounds

In thread 1, include a list of the symptoms and problems
e.g.
- cannot enter buildings in town
- game freezes when opening chests
- game freezes when casting spells

and then paste one set of instructions to install virtual dub

In thread 2, cut and paste the steps for reinstalling directX 8, TNT graphics conflict, sound cards, memory settings etc

In 3. Put the guidelines upfront and a warning that this section includes spoilers. To keep this short and simple, my suggestion would be describe the problem and give the workaround

e.g.
Problem: Game freezes when I get bitten by Adrianna in Skull Castle
Solution: Install the patch (add link) which fixes this known problem

Problem: Cannot give toad potion to Mekdawa
Solution: Make sure you go to icon menu, select give/use, scroll to potion, and then point to Mekdawa and click.

Problem: Cannot give dragon arrow to Torin
Solution: His inventory may be full. Try buying or exchanging items or else pickpocket him until you free up a slot in his inventory

Problem: Game crashes when I'm fighting Cet
Soultion: Reload a saved game and try fighting Cet from the left hand side, up against the wall.

Problem: My ship is stuck next to Talrik's place
Solution: Create a portal and cast teleport on the ship

I suggest that you lock these three threads at the top so that they remain visible and also avoid cluttering.

If you want, create a fourth thread "Unsolved problems" where readers can paste their problems (probably best to highlight that they should check the above three threads before posting). However, it seems that readers just create a new thread when they have a problems, so this fourth thread may or may not be necessary..

good luck..

Packrat 07-26-2002 07:02 AM

Final version, lite ?
( Just my opinion...but something to think about.)
------------------------------
1 General information
*2 General Gameplay Problems...(remove 'DirectX Issues' from mini Index)
3 Game Crashes
4 Graphics Problem
5 Installation Problems
6 Sound Problems

Index

1. General Information
1.1 - How to find the info you need
1.2 - What to include in your post when posting here
*2.1 - (formerly, 4.3 -) Game is dragging or generally slow (p3-7)
*2.2 - Known problems with DirectX 8
*2.3 - (formerly, 8.1 -) Canīt enter buildings in town (p2-8, p6-10 new link)
*2.4 - (formerly, 8.6 -) No links in start menu after installing (p7-3)
3. Game Crashes
3.1 - Game crashes during Cet - Kerah fight (p5-10)
3.2 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message (my post page 9)
3.3 - Game crashes when equipping the Vampire ring (p7-21+23)
3.4 - Game crashes when giving/using item (my post page 9)
3.5 - Game crashes when leaving Valeia (p5-9)
3.6 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message
3.7 - Game freezes when casting a spell
3.8 - Game freezes when disarming chests (my post page 9)
3.9 - Game freezes temporarily when talking (p3-12)
3.10 - Game freezes when trying to cast a spell (my post page 9)
3.11 - Game runs slow the crashes(p3-19)
3.12 - Mmsystem 266 error or black screen in the game (p1-23)
4. Graphics Problems
4.1 - Black screen on launch (p1-23)
4.2 - Game crashes when leaving Valeia (p5-9)
4.4 - How to change swap file size (isnīt in there, I can do the win2k OS)
4.5 - I can see the options, but when in the Town itīs dark (p1-23)
4.6 - Known problems with DirectX 8
4.7 - Problems running W&W in Windows 98 and Windows Me (p2-9)
**[4.8 - Tip for the Windows swap file]...move to 'how to' thread.
4.9 - TNT graphics card conflicts
5. Installation Problems
5.1 - How to install manually (not in there but Iīll put it in the new thread)
5.2 - Installing a new video card (p4-5)
5.3 - Update CD drivers to 32-bit (p2-15)
6. Sound Problems
6.1 - Game freezes temporarily when talking (p3-12)
6.2 - No sound in the Game
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END

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These entries were listed twice, I'm not sure if it was by design, or not...
4.8 - Tip for the Windows swap file ...(also as 9.2 )
8.2 - Game crashes then receiving a memory error message (my post page 9)...(also as 3.2 )
8.3 - Game crashes when giving/using an item (my post page 9)...(also as 3.4 )
8.4 - Game freezes when disarming chests (my post page 9)...(also as 3.8 )
8.5 - Game freezes when trying to cast a spell (my post page 9)...(also as 3.10 )

The following items could all be moved to a seperate thread.
[That way, the 'Index' acts as a filter. By the time someone gets to these posts, (on their own) they can be sure that it's the right solution.]

2.1 - How to remove DirectX 8
7.2 - How to use Virtualdub
9. Windows settings
9.1 - How to change swap file size
9.2 - Tip for the Windows swap file
9.3 - Turn on compatibility mode in win2000/XP

...8. Windows 2000/XP Issues. This one makes me curious....Are there any problems that have 2 different solutions, based on OS? If there are couldn't we add;

1.0 - 'Do you know what OS you're running?'

Then put 2 seperate links, on items, with multiple solutions.
example:
3.1 - Game crashes during Cet - Kerah fight....(2000/XP...link)...(95/98/ME...link)

And 1 last question...Is, '4.9 - TNT graphics card conflicts', is this a conflict with a certian model? I was using a TNT 2, with no problems.

WillowIX 07-26-2002 09:46 AM

Tha names of the categories are just something I put together in a minute. All of thóse can of course be changed. :D The OS (w2k) was put in there on Bungleauīs request. For instance I know my gam crashes whe I try to disarm a chest. I might the like to know what other issues there are. The ones you listed as double posted I call cross indexed lol. The w2k issues under "game crashes" will still link to the post about w2k. The "how to use virtualdub" will be in the same post that has the link. Now that you mention it, it might be silly to have that as an entry of itīs own. If you click on the virtualdub link youīre bound to read how it works right? (The same with dx8, the link for dx buster will be in here). The TNT is a driver issue. Some of the newer drivers donīt work with the game. Check the thread "Still Locks in the game" by Baron Sengir on page 4 in the forum (can you guess how long it took to find it?lol). In the same thread is also another solution to crashes with w2k. And the entries you think can be moved. Why not give us (=me) an example? Plz? Pretty plz? :D (Otherwise I wonīt get it until next week lol!)

Wyvern 07-26-2002 09:56 AM

WOWZAH!!!!

Oh, all of you are just so excellent!!! Special thanks, Willow, for all the effort you've been putting in and kudos to all for the buffing and polishing. This is just going to be such a useful thread!!

Makes me wonder if I shouldn't reorganize the BEST TIPs into a more logical sequence as well. I'll have to think about that idea another day! LOL! I'm way to busy right now but it certainly is worth considering!

Wyv


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