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Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-27-2008 09:57 PM

What's with the new TV shows?
 
I'm finding so many of the newer shows have the music way too loud when people are speaking. Both my wife and I notice it all the time. Anybody else?

..drives me nuts!

Firestormalpha 09-27-2008 10:07 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
I've encountered several video games with the same problem. StarOcean: Til the End of Time to name one (all the same I love the game). My other pet peeve is shows that run voices so low you have to practically max out the volume to hear it, then they through in a loud spot (gun fire, explosions etc.) so loud you halfway fry your soundsystem.

Stratos 09-28-2008 06:28 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
I don't know about TV shows, but it's pretty annoying that they raise the volume during commercial breaks. You watch some low key movie or something and then *Wham!*

Unglaublich Verwustung 09-28-2008 06:29 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
You watch tv????

No wonder you don't spend enough time on the question thread!!!

VulcanRider 09-28-2008 06:57 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood (Post 1218287)
I'm finding so many of the newer shows have the music way too loud when people are speaking. Both my wife and I notice it all the time. Anybody else?

..drives me nuts!

Absolutely! I find myself gradually increasing the volume during the show until the level is set way higher than I started with, by the end. Then I HAVE to keep the remote close or risk getting blasted during commercials unless I mute them.

Middle-aged Ear Syndrome. Maybe we can get a gov't grant to study it...

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-28-2008 07:00 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unglaublich Verwustung (Post 1218305)
You watch tv????

No wonder you don't spend enough time on the question thread!!!

Nice to see you spreading your constructive questions and comments all over the forum! ;)

..'course I didn't like that avatar either..

Unglaublich Verwustung 09-28-2008 07:12 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Actually, I was wondering whether the comment about music in tv shows is valid. I just thought that it was the kids playing the tv too loud (because they do and we always have to make them turn it down). But, if what you say is the case, then maybe they are turning it up loud so that they can hear dialogue (yeah, kids listening to dialogue, funny idea).

Equally I know that they play music way too loud - which is funny, 'cause I remember my parents saying that to me. But I still play music at the same 'too loud' volume which I always have, but my kids think that is quiet.

We had a moment yesterday, where I asked daughter-child what music she was playing, when she came downstairs, and she responded "How did you know I was listening to music?". When I said that I could hear it, she stopped, listened and then said "How? I can't hear anything down here."

She seemed genuinely mystified, so I hummed the notes I could hear, she told me what it was and agreed that she was listening to that upstairs, but just couldn't hear it downstairs.

Music is making out children deaf. Aaargghhh! I'm turning into my parents.....

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-28-2008 07:25 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
That may be something else as well. I just heard on the news about 3 weeks ago that malls are considering emitting a "high pitch" sound that only teens can hear. This would deter them from loitering at the mall.

They placed the sound, but I could not hear it.

...course they would loose business as well, because I'm sure some, or many of them do shop while there.

Stratos 09-28-2008 12:29 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
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Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1218308)
Absolutely! I find myself gradually increasing the volume during the show until the level is set way higher than I started with, by the end. Then I HAVE to keep the remote close or risk getting blasted during commercials unless I mute them.

Middle-aged Ear Syndrome. Maybe we can get a gov't grant to study it...

My dad does the same thing.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-28-2008 01:30 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Which part, the remote thing, or the study?

Spirits Reborn 09-28-2008 01:37 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
They have the music loud so you won't notice the HORRENDOUS script job they've done :hehe:

VulcanRider 09-28-2008 05:58 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
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Originally Posted by Stratos (Post 1218334)
My dad does the same thing.

Isn't it past your bedtime, sonny? :rolleyes:

Stratos 09-28-2008 07:51 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood (Post 1218340)
Which part, the remote thing, or the study?

The remote thing.

Stratos 09-28-2008 07:53 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
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Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1218353)
Isn't it past your bedtime, sonny? :rolleyes:

When I mentioned my dad I'm not insinuating that you're old or anything.

BTW, can you tell us some war time stories of the Thirty Year War. I'd love to hear some. :P

Kakero 09-28-2008 11:50 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Music soothe the savage beast, is this case music anger the savage beast. :hehe:

VulcanRider 09-29-2008 06:04 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
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Originally Posted by Stratos (Post 1218360)
When I mentioned my dad I'm not insinuating that you're old or anything.

BTW, can you tell us some war time stories of the Thirty Year War. I'd love to hear some. :P

Wasn't my war - I was too young to be drafted.

Sever 09-29-2008 10:13 AM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood (Post 1218314)
That may be something else as well. I just heard on the news about 3 weeks ago that malls are considering emitting a "high pitch" sound that only teens can hear. This would deter them from loitering at the mall.

They placed the sound, but I could not hear it.

...course they would loose business as well, because I'm sure some, or many of them do shop while there.

They've been doing that for years. Celine Dion was the last attempt. Also caused sales drops and was canned. :D

Cerek 09-29-2008 12:30 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood (Post 1218287)
I'm finding so many of the newer shows have the music way too loud when people are speaking. Both my wife and I notice it all the time. Anybody else?

..drives me nuts!

<font color="plum">Can you name some particular shows? I'm not really familiar with any that run music during the dialogue. Then again, I don't watch nearly as much TV as I used to. I don't watch any sitcoms and very few drama shows anymore.

I have noticed that the dialogue on some shows is incredibly low, or at least seems that way to me. So I do have to turn it up, just like VR does, and keep the remote close at hand to either mute or turn down the commercials.

Commercials have always been louder than regular programming. Part of it is to catch your attention. Part of it is to make sure you still hear the message while you're in the kitchen getting your snack before the show comes back on. That's how early VCRs could be programmed to "skip" commercials. As soon as it detected a certain rise in volume, it "turned off" until the volume went back down to the previous level. This wasn't a perfect way to skip commercials, because some shows like Miami Vice would have volume increases during the show, but it worked fairly well for the technology at the time.

The best advice I can give is to watch reruns of Andy Griffith and I Love Lucy. Good, wholesome programming that was also very entertaining. Then mix in lots of UFC action for the current entertainment. :D</font>

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-29-2008 12:46 PM

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I notice it with "Bones" (excellent show btw, other than..) the CSI's, Sarah Conner chronicles; even Knight Rider was annoying that way at times.

The other thing I really hate is the stupid logos in the bottom right hand corner. As if anybody cares what station they're watching the show on.

PS, say hi to mother Harper for me! :)

Stratos 09-29-2008 12:53 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VulcanRider (Post 1218385)
Wasn't my war - I was too young to be drafted.

Hahaha! :D

Gangrell 09-29-2008 03:48 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
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Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1218289)
I've encountered several video games with the same problem. StarOcean: Til the End of Time to name one (all the same I love the game).

I'll have to agree with that. As long as the game is, you would think they would've spotted that.

Yorick 09-29-2008 05:43 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stratos (Post 1218304)
I don't know about TV shows, but it's pretty annoying that they raise the volume during commercial breaks. You watch some low key movie or something and then *Wham!*

Annoying yes, but it's paying for your TV shows. Advertisers demand that extra "punch" from being louder than the show.

If you don't like it, don't buy the product being advertised that offends you. It's the only way to change something like that.

If it's proven that loudness gets notice and sells a product, that's what they'll do. If it's proven that the same thing hurts sales, you'd find it stop.

Yorick 09-29-2008 05:45 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood (Post 1218287)
I'm finding so many of the newer shows have the music way too loud when people are speaking. Both my wife and I notice it all the time. Anybody else?

..drives me nuts!

I've noticed that that annoying spoken word stuff is way too loud over the beautiful music... it drives me nuts!! :D :D

Actually I like loud music in a film. I'm one of those "music is half the film" people. :)

Firestormalpha 09-29-2008 06:05 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
{hijack}So, what'd you think of Pan's Labyrinth?{/hijack}

Stratos 09-29-2008 06:55 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorick (Post 1218419)
Annoying yes, but it's paying for your TV shows. Advertisers demand that extra "punch" from being louder than the show.

If you don't like it, don't buy the product being advertised that offends you. It's the only way to change something like that.

If it's proven that loudness gets notice and sells a product, that's what they'll do. If it's proven that the same thing hurts sales, you'd find it stop.

Well, it's only really annoying when the show is otherwise low-key. The sudden shift could wake the dead, it seems, but I suppose the advertizers are not to blame for that.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 09-29-2008 07:23 PM

Re: What's with the new TV shows?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorick (Post 1218420)
I've noticed that that annoying spoken word stuff is way too loud over the beautiful music... it drives me nuts!! :D :D

Actually I like loud music in a film. I'm one of those "music is half the film" people. :)

Yeah, I like the music, but not at the cost of not knowing what's going on, 'cos I can't hear the dialogue.


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