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No promises or anything (of course!), but I am wondering what people out there want to see in terms of new art for Dungeon Craft. (If I am in a good mood and I also like the request, I may go and make whatever was requested - maybe. ;) )

But in any case, a list for me to see when I am bored and just need to draw something is always nice :D

Working List of Requests (finished requests marked with an asterisk (*), requests hopefully assuaged with something similar marked with a number sign (#)):

ICONS:

#Outer Realms Creatures: Devils & Demons, Etc. (*Red Slaad, *Duodrone)
Kamadan
Penangallan
Lammasu, Cellestial Lammasu
*Ki-rin, *T'uen-rin
*Couatl
Oliphant, Maelephant, Hollyphant
Titan
Warden Beast
#Forgotten Realms NPCs (*Elminster, *Khelben, *Laeral, Driz'zt, Bruenor, etc.)
Forgotten Realms/Egyptian/Greek Avatars
Drider
Mephits
*Achaierai
#Golems (*Flesh, Clay, *Stone, Bone, Glass, Snow)
Giants (Frost (shaman, chieftain, female))
Frost Man
Hoar Fox
Cryohydra
*Yeti
Thanoi (Dragonlance)
*Polar Bear
Ice Lizard
*Giant Lynx
*Yuan-ti (halfbreed)
*Remorhaz
#Kraken
Flind
Ettercap
Yellow Musk Creeper (and Yellow Musk Zombie)?
Volt?
Measel?
Caryatid Column?
#Elemental Princes of Evil? (*Ogremoch)
Iron Cobra?
Thessalhydra
*Raven
Ravenkin (Ravenloft?)
Wereraven (Ravenloft)
Owlbear
Basilisk
*Gnoll Captain (cape recolor)
*Kobold Raider (different weapon?)
*Goblin Battlemaster (different weapon?)
Goblin Warlord (funky shogun hat?)
Kobold Chieftain (primitive crown?)
*Unicorn
#Horse (#dun, black, and brown)
Charger (brown, zebra colored but red instead of white, red with black tail and mane)
People (warrior in black with silver trim wearing a black cloak and holding a scimitar, ranger all in green, warrior missing right hand and half of fore-arm, stocky warrior with no weapons and black hair, red-haired man without weapons (can look mage-like but should be wearing pants), red-haired female mage, red-haired warrior in full plate (no helmet), regal king with long black hair, hunchbacked man just a tad taller than a dwarf, red-haired thief, grizzled veteran warrior balding with grey beard)
People on horseback (black and silver figure on dun, green ranger on red/black zebra charger, one armed man on red with black hair, red-haired thief on black, grizzled warrior on brown)

(Others I don't know what the names are, so I can't search for them!)

SMALL PICS/PORTRAITS:

Priest/priestess of Waukeen
Half-elf male shop worker
*Gnome male curio shop owner
Stout male/female baker
Plump human male mayor, finely dressed
Plump halfling female innkeep
Half-elf male bartender
*Human male Ranger Lord
Older "citizens"
Finely dressed merchants
Half-elf female clerk
Dwarf male weapon's clerk
Rugged human male fighter/trainer
#Gnoll Captain
Goblin Battlemaster
Goblin Warlord
Kobold Chieftain
Bandit Lord

SPRITES:

City guard
Finely dressed merchants
Everyday people

ICON/SPRITE/SMALL PIC SETS:

Half-Orcs
Assassins
Monks
Cavaliers
Thief-Acrobats
Illusionists

OTHER:

Player's Handbook large image
Dungeon Master's Guide large image
Monster Manual large image

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I would love to see some outer planes creatures. :) Devils and Demons would be great, but so would creatures from any of the realms.

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Well, I have a bunch of projects in the "this would be cool to do" stage, as in I haven't started planning them much. Once I get to a place to live and get on a regular schedule
I will resume my testing of scripting and do some work on projects as well. These would all need icons of various types.

Some cool ones to see tho would be specific ones from the Fiend Folio, like the kamadan (IIRC, the monster that was a dipslacer-beast with leopard spots and snakes instead of tenticles), and the penangallan (a vampire type of creature that was just a flying head)

-SilentThief

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Hi, ST! :D I hope the move is going well.

I thought of some specific examples of Outer planar creatures (and some from the Prime Material plane that are related).

Celestial Ki-rin and their PM cousin, Ki-rin, or their cousin, the Dragon Horse

Tuen-rin

Celestial Lammasu and reg'lar Lammasu

Coual

Oliphants

Maeliphants

Titans

Warden Beasts

And not necessarily from the Outer Planes: NPCs of the famous variety and Avatars. :D:D:D

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Well, those are some interesting beasties that y'all have suggested :)

Penangallan - that is one freaky creature! (Don't remember the kamadan, will have to take a look.)

I never really understood the Tuen-rin that 2e introduced - I seem to remember something about ki-rin sex or something (one of them was male, the other female or something)? But ki-rin (qilin) is actually a compound word: ki (the males) + rin (the females)...

(I didn't know that there was a celestial variety of ki-rin in AD&D, though.) But ki-rin, couatl, and lammasu icons might be fun... More demons/devils are always nice, too.

Maelephants also seem to be a 2e creation... I like hollyphants better (smaller, too!) :D

Actually, I was pondering doing a baku icon - but I think I have used up my pachyderm juices for now (with the mammoth)...

As for NPCs/Avatars, which ones in particular do you like? :)

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I am impressed of how many beasts are nowadays present in AD&D. I read about some of these in "A natural history of the unnatural world" :), but would never have expected them in AD&D. I would really like to see a ki-rin icon (with statitstics, perhaps)!

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Hollyphant, not Oliphant. :) I must have been getting my Tolkein mixed up with my AD&D. ;)

As for the NPCs I'd love to see- pretty much anybody from the Forgotten Realms: Elminster, Blackstaff, the Seven Sisters, Driz'zt, Bruenor Battlehammer, etc. :)

The Avatars: anybody from the Forgotten Realms, Norse, Egyptian or Greco-Roman pantheons would be smashing. :D:D:D

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2 votes for ki-rin, eh? Guess I will get to it (one of these days)...

I think there are oliphants in AD&D as well as hollyphants (oliphants may be somewhat disappointing to Tolkein fans, though, since most of them are only 8' at the shoulder (if I remember correctly), although it says that some can be much bigger...) Lots of pachyderms in AD&D :D

Hmm - some FR Avatars even overlap with some of the pantheons you listed there! ;)

Tyr - Forgotten Realms, Norse
Sharess/Bast - Forgotten Realms, Egypt
Vergadain/Bes - Forgotten Realms (Dwarf), Egypt

2 for 1, eh? (No FR + Greco-Roman, though, at least as far as I can remember...)

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Well, I have added a ki-rin and t'uen-rin icon (recolor! ha!)... Incidentally, I wasn't able to find any reference to the "celestial ki-rin" - where did you see that monster, manikus?

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Awesome icons! I love the hair/manes on these two. :D:D:D

The celestial ki-rin - that must have been from all of the excitement. I can't find one, and I'm guessing that after looking at the Clestial Lamassu and then reading about Ki-rin and kin, that some wires in my brain got crossed. :)

-Mr. Roboto

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Thank you, Uatu! They are beautiful!

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Ha ha... Luckily, the Manual of Planes notes that some Ki-rin do live in the Upper Planes, anyway (such as the Seven Heavens)...

Drawing these guys took much more effort than I expected... :(

And now for some ki-rin (qilin)/t'uen-rin trivia:

Qilin is a compound word where qi = the males and lin = the females. Females are said to have no horns (so the t'uen-rin should probably be hornless, actually, but I followed the Monstrous Compendium entry :D ).

Some people have hypothesized that the qilin was a later word for the ancient xie (another single-horned animal, but this one could distinguish between good and evil (with its horn, I think)), which may have been an actual animal similar to Vietnam's saola (when its habitat included China as well). In either case, the Chinese characters for qilin include the radical for "deer" so it does appear to be some kind of deer or antelope (thus I have decided to make my ki-rin/t'uen-rin more deerlike than some depictions that are much more dragonlike).

Ki-rin (Qilin) in Chinese: 麒麟
T'uen-rin appears to be fake Chinese :D There is no "t'uen" phoneme in Mandarin Chinese (although they tried, sticking the apostrophe there and all :) ) Perhaps we can change it to "T'ian-lin" (天麟) to say "heavenly rin" or something like that to legitimize it?

Finally, in old times some people once gave giraffes to the Chinese emperor, telling him that they were qilin; Japan has adopted this lie and calls giraffes qilin to this day :)

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Very interesting trivia. I'm always surprised to find out how much research that Gygax, Cook, Greenwood et al did for their work. I'm sure a lot of it though was that they were just big geeks who knew a lot of this kinda 'weird' stuff that they were able to incorporate into the game. :D:D:D

I thought of another creature I'd like to add; actually I thought of it before but I didn't include it b/c it wasn't an outer planes creature per se, but it is an inhabitant of the astral...the couatl. I've always thought that they were cool. :)

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Yeah, Gygax and the guys did loads of research, especially about rare creatures, old weapons, and old rituals (2nd edition got rid of some of that). They did a lot of work to incorporate the various legends of the world into a single, coherent fantasy world (the couatl being from Mesoamerica, for example).

I wasn't quite satisfied with their treatment on Asian mythology, though (it is a difficult topic to tackle, though) - Oriental Adventures did try to merge Asian mythologies together (mostly Chinese and Japanese), but ended up being like 95% Japanese (for example, only the monk and wu-jen classes were based on China) (Japan was just a small part of Asia, so I am not sure this was justified).

There were various errors as well - shukenja should be shugenja, korobokuru should be korobokkuru, kensai should be kensei, and so on... There was some good stuff in there, though (like the repeating crossbow) :)

I also never really liked the oriental dragons (from the Fiend Folio); I always thought that gold dragons (and mist dragons) were basically AD&D's answer to oriental dragons, anyway...

But anyway, yeah - couatls are cool :D Sounds like a pain to color, but I'll think about it ;)

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There were some interestin creatures from the D&D box set and expansions. Perhaps my favorite ones were a creature that resembles a rose but drains blood (a vampire rose) and a bush that hurls thorns at enemies (an archer bush). Both were introduced in the first 10 modules that I bought in a collection of 10 called "in search of adventure"

-ST

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Which boxed set was that? (I had the old basic D&D red and blue boxed sets (i.e. Basic and Expert); had a bunch of modules as well.)

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So, anyway, I did icons of Elminster, Khelben, and his wife... I dunno, they are okay, but... (Funny how almost all NPCs in the Realms seem to be as tall as possible.)

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:D Thanks. :D These are some nice icons, though something about Khelban seems a little off. I think he looks like he should be shorter based on the proportions from the belt up. Does that makes sense? His arms, chest and head seem to be in proportion to one another, but seem a bit too small for how long his robe is below the belt, so-to-speak. ;) But I like the way he looks - maybe he's just getting old and hiking that belt up a little higher...

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Yeah... um... He's having a phase (middle age and all that). :D

...Okay, I see what you mean - lemme try to fix that (yaargh - guess I'll move it down a pixel)... It' pretty hard to get the "just starting to get balding" look right :D

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No worries. :) I'll just tease him when he's around. :D:D:D

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You know what would be cool? A drider. :)

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Hmm - that would be cool. :) Will put it on the list of things "to do"... Might be easier to do a drow with that (I could reuse the torsos! :D )

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I was thinking the same thing as to doing a small picture of a drow and drider, but thought that I recalled reading that they were only males and that the former drow parts were 'bloated'. (No sources for this, just some vague recollections. :D )

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Hmm - that does sound familiar. :) Lemme go check...

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Okay, I just found the part I was thinking of in MM II (1e)

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Cool. :) I wonder how a drider's sex would be relevant, since they can't be distinguished? (Unless the females have clerical abilities, while the males have magical abilities.)

Hmm - the drow part is pale now? If a drow's skin is jet-black, what would it be when pale? Gray? :D

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:) You're good. That's exactly what the rest of the entry says.

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Ha ha - okay, pudgy, pale sexless drow with spider underbodies it is :)

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You forgot an adjective - sexy! :lildrizzt:
:D:D:D
Not as sexy as bearded, female dwarves, though. ;)

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Here's a request. How about another from the Fiend Folio; the Acherai (I think is how it is spelled). It is a huge 4 legged flightless bird from the abyss.

ST

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I think I remember that - looked rather like a bird's head on stilts (might be a fun icon to do...) :D

As for sexy dwarves - don't knock 'em 'till you try 'em! (Uh...)

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I was thinking about what else I would like to see, not necessarily for a particular project I've got in mind, but in general, and realized that we could use more golems. :)

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Yah - I agree! Maybe I'll start small, with a flesh or clay golem? :D

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:D Both of those are right at the top of my list. I would also like to see a bone golem, a glass golem and a stone golem. (The bone and glass golems are from the Ravenloft setting 2e.)

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Hmm - well, I guess the glass one is kind of cool-looking, so maybe later (the bone one seems a bit hassle, though!) :D

(Khelben finally got a longer torso... I think...)

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The ravenloft golem that looks really interesting is the zombie golem. I can't say that I would ever consider using such a creature, unless I were making a horror movie. :)

I am on my way to check out Mr. Arensun now. :D

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Hmm - never saw that golem before! There are lots of weird golems in each campaign setting, though... I think the Realms had a few, too...

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Like what? I've gotten through most of the monstrous compendium and all three 1e books and only saw the four mentioned, plus the Ravenloft ones and two in the Spelljammers...which leads me to believe that they are in other publications, which I would so gladly love to be pointed to. :D:D:D

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...ok, I just found a couple in the 2e Monstrous Manual (necrophidius golem, scarecrow golem), and two more in the Monstrous Compendium Annual 2 (burning man golem, phantom flyer golem)...I'm looking while I write, so I just found more in the Monstrous Compendium Annual 3 (magic golem, shaboath golem)...

I'll keep looking. :D

Edit: I just found three more in the MC Annual 4 (brass minotaur golem, gemstone goelm - 3 kinds, maggot goelm)

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Allright, enough with the golems...I just found about a dozen and a half more (for Darksun and Mystara).

I though of some other creatures I would love to see - an ice troll and mephits (of all kinds).