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pittbin 01-22-2008 11:15 AM

lost one point of constitution?
 
I am playing Baldur's Gate. Yesterday I found my character's constitution is one point lower than the initial value. But I don't know how it happened. I am a newbie, could anyone give me a hint? Under what conditions will the character's constitution change permanently?
Thanks.

SixOfSpades 01-22-2008 11:18 AM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Note to Self: It's probably not a good idea to offhandedly start drinking random unknown potions without first knowing their effects, especially when those potions come from questionable sources.

Firestormalpha 01-22-2008 11:57 AM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Is that what those potions can do? Wow, I only ever resold them for a great profit.

The only other thing I can think of is those claw or horn items, but you have to have lot's of gold to get them, and I don't recall offhand what effects they have, I know it's some good some bad, kind of a trade off.

Lord 01-22-2008 02:46 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SixOfSpades (Post 1198838)
Note to Self: It's probably not a good idea to offhandedly start drinking random unknown potions without first knowing their effects, especially when those potions come from questionable sources.

Don't the effects of those 2 potions wear off and reset your stats to normal (I'm talking about the ones from the Carnival)?

ZFR 01-22-2008 04:06 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Are you perchance playing BGT/BGTuTu and your familiar died?

SixOfSpades 01-22-2008 06:53 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord (Post 1198858)
Don't the effects of those 2 potions wear off and reset your stats to normal (I'm talking about the ones from the Carnival)?

Those two do, yes, but I'm talking about the ones from the Nashkel Mines. Just because they look like Antidotes . . .

Firestormalpha 01-22-2008 07:07 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Ahh the all-important read the friggin description clause. I was thinking the potions from the carni myself. And the so-called antidotes are pretty well labeled as not such IIRC, but I'm headed that way myself right now so I'll know soon enough.

and as to the familiar reducing con by a point, I thought that it merely removed the point you gained from having the familiar?

ZFR 01-22-2008 07:43 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1198884)

and as to the familiar reducing con by a point, I thought that it merely removed the point you gained from having the familiar?

You don't gain point of CON for having a familiar. Just HP.

Firestormalpha 01-22-2008 07:49 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Almost certain it added one, I mean not by the rules but just by the way the developers made the game work, but then I haven't played in a long time so I probably am wrong.

ZFR 01-22-2008 07:54 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1198888)
Almost certain it added one, I mean not by the rules but just by the way the developers made the game work, but then I haven't played in a long time so I probably am wrong.

No really it doesn't ;)

http://www.togrc.com/bg2/items_detail.php?ID=420

Firestormalpha 01-22-2008 08:22 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Well it HAS been a long time since I played.

At anyrate if pittbin wants his con back so much he could just CLUA up a tome of whatever it is that boosts that stat.

pittbin 01-22-2008 09:46 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SixOfSpades (Post 1198882)
Those two do, yes, but I'm talking about the ones from the Nashkel Mines. Just because they look like Antidotes . . .

Gee, I think I didn't identify them and drank them all.

I don't have a familiar.

Thanks a lot, everyone.

Firestormalpha 01-22-2008 09:48 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
The potions from the mines take away a constitution point?

I thought they just acted like taking a hit from poison. And at probable Nashkel levels without an immediate antidote usually means death.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 01-23-2008 04:55 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1198894)
Well it HAS been a long time since I played.

At anyrate if pittbin wants his con back so much he could just CLUA up a tome of whatever it is that boosts that stat.

Or s/he could actually play the game. How's that for an idea?

Firestormalpha 01-23-2008 04:59 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
That too is a good idea, but I'm just laying out an option in case he's not that kind of player.

I went through a phase where I CLUA'd all the right tomes just to make my player the ideal whatever class he was, and still have nothing below a 9. Got boring, game felt cheapened, but it was fun for a bit. One time just for the heck of it I went all stats 25. strangely, even with all 25's at level 1 you can die pretty easily without any back up.

But I've digressed, my point was really if the constitution loss really bothered them that much there is an option, not really a true roleplayers option, but an option all the same.

pittbin 01-23-2008 07:34 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
I used manual of bodily health to get one constitution.

Firestormalpha 01-23-2008 07:54 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Alternatively there are 2 manual's of B.H. in BG that do your Con, IIRC. But one of them you need for a quest, or you could use it for yourself instead. Using one of those would fall well within the confines of a strict roleplaying experience.

ZFR 01-24-2008 01:51 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1199044)
Alternatively there are 2 manual's of B.H. in BG that do your Con, IIRC. But one of them you need for a quest, or you could use it for yourself instead.

Pssst, you got the tomes wrong...

Firestormalpha 01-24-2008 02:05 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
yeah, that happens, which ones were they supposed to be?

ZFR 01-24-2008 02:31 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha (Post 1199103)
yeah, that happens, which ones were they supposed to be?

Spoiler for tome:
The wisdom one....
Spoiler for more spoilers TotSC:
And if you get TotSC you get a third one

Firestormalpha 01-24-2008 03:07 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Yeah, I was just playing clearing the carnival area of a few kobolds when that came to me. I still remember last time I played with a Paladin, got my con high enough to have regen. didn't matter how bad my PC looked 8 hours had him back in peak condition.

ZFR 01-24-2008 07:01 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Isn't 20 required for regeneration? Dwarf (19) + tome?

Firestormalpha 01-24-2008 08:47 PM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Not sure, how I managed that I know I started him with an 18. I got at least one extra point from a tome found. Was there a second one in BG2 if so that may have been where the regen kicked in.

SixOfSpades 01-25-2008 12:55 AM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
The only legal ways for your PC to get regeneration in BG1 is to start with a Dwarf or a Half-Orc -- hence, not a Paladin.

Firestormalpha 01-25-2008 01:20 AM

Re: lost one point of constitution?
 
Hmmm... wonder how I got it then, must have been when I was tinkering with CLUA or something.


Add: come to think of it that may have been the guy that I gave 19 con, basically made the most ideal Paladin with marginally superhuman constitution (due to his less than mundane origins I think was the reason) I believe str and dex as well as all his other stats were within human limits though they didn't fit within your typical mortal adventurer patern, that is, the dice roll didn't set the limit.

I think I kept him marginally balanced though. Not sure it's been forever.

Well that answers my other question, tested the "antidotes" from the nashkel mines and it indeed does reduce your con by one as well as poison you.


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