Xydusa overrated?
 

I just killed the big bad naga, and i did'nt find it as hard as i expected. Of course, she IS tough, but after all i've read about her on this page, i thougt this battle to be much harder.
I fought her twice and won both times. I think, the key was perfect preparation. I made shure, that as many as possible of my heros were able to remove petrification and paralyzation by distributing potions and scrolls and spelled all the helpful spells i had: bless, armored realm, heroic might, toughen and (most important) haste on every character. Then i rushed in and hit, hit, hit the Naga as quickly as i could, interrupting most of her own attacks.
On the first try, when anyone except my barbarian was killed or stoned, i guess i missed the right moment for a tactical retreat. But second time, wiser now, i rushed around a few corners, healed my heros, renewed the helpful spells and ran back again, finishing the battle, this time endig up with noone killed, stoned or even paralyzed.

By the way: I was a bit disappointed by keriells potion. It's just a sleep-spell? Well, it's a sleep-spell affecting the naga, but i expected more. It just granted me one or two free hits.
Ah, now that i'm writing this, i can imagine ... It would grant you a save retreat or a chance to heal. Well, too late now.

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Ahh... sssweet mother Xydusssssaa......

Welcome to the boardssss, young priesssst.... :happywave:

Battle isn't that tricky, but the real purpose of the potion is to get a special trait. If you *haven't* killed Xydusa, then when you see Elyssia, one of your characters can get the... snakeskin trait, IIRC. It gives you immunity to poison.

If Xydusa is dead, you don't get the chance to get it.

I usually go in with a couple of her potions. How? By buying Algamesh's necklace back and giving it to her again. She's pretty amazing that way ;)

Keep us posted on your progress... and prowess :hehe:

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If you want the trait then:

(1) In fact, you don't need the potion. The only thing that matters is having Xydusa alive when you meet Elysia. You can run around Xydusa as well.
(2) If you have the potion then lure Xydusa from her starting position first! She is blocking the door out and if you put her into sleep there then you will be unable to go around her. Hide behind the "round shield" in Xydusa's chamber and let her find "a better attacking position". Once she moves away from the door, use the potion.
(3) Talking with Elysia is the moment where the game freezes most often. You have about 30% chance that the game will not hang your computer there! Therefore, prepare your people for the battle, <i>save the game before entering the auditorium</i>, and go to Elysia. Talk with her. Your machine is hanging? It's normal, ctrl-alt-del, and quit W&W using the process manager. Restart, reload.
(4) The trait gets the one who is talking with Elysia. Activate the right member of your party before talking.

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Thank you for the warm welcome, bugleau and radek.

Yes, i got the snakeskin-trait and killed xydusa later. When i met the nage for the first time, i lured her out of the gate and ran around her, as radek discribed. It worked without the potion (at this time, i simply forgot obout it), and gave me some quite spooky moments, wandering through that maze, searching for Elyssia and knowing, the naga is still here somewhere ... (I like that first-person-roleplay)

And when we're already talking about it: Is it possible to get the snakeskin, when you didnt join the sect, giving kreug the 1000 gps (and all the other donations)?

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I think it is possible... I usually join the sect because it's easier to get the serpin coins that way. Every priest carries one that he will sell to you, but not every priest drops one when he dies.

Once I've got the 67 or so serpins I need (for the thieves quest and for the doors and cones), I'll start slicing snakes.... :D

I usually take care of Xydusa with a well-aimed firestorm... barbecued snake, mmmmm.... :slurp:

I'm making myself hungry now!

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Xydusa is easy, in fact trying to drop down into her room is more dangerous than her fight. There was several times that I got stuck and my entire party was crushed to death by the moving floor.

Never had problem with getting serpent coins, since I set the spawn rate as high, priests are everywhere. :P

Nice thing about kreug is that if you don't have enough money for the temple's entrance fee. He'll accept whatever gold you have with you.

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You need not join the temple and you will get the trait still. I am never joining, Kreug is always right that he has made a mistake :D The coins: There are bags of snake priests around and new ones are popping up continuously. You will always collect more coins than you need.

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Oh man, i wish i would have read that bevore playing. When i did'nt have enough gold for kreugs fee, i loaded a savegame, went back to the town and got more money from the bank.
Also the coins: i stole the ones i needed to open the gates. Could have been easier...

By the way: I played the serpent temple "undercover", pretending to be a loyal servant, paying all the donations and not killing any priest (only until i fulfilled all my quests, of course). But i wonder what consequences it had. What would have changed, beside the fact, that you are'nt attacked by the priests. I found no way to get the key, which opens the prison-cell, without killing the inquisitor. Well, i didnt kill him by myself, i induced a "tragical accident" with an automatic door, so noone could blame me. Okay, i could have pickpocket the key, but the inquisitor starts to talk to me, when i come close, and whatever i say, he finally attacks me (unless he has a "tragical accident" before).

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The inquisitor doesn't count against you in the temple. Kill him and no one cares. Guess he wasn't Mr Popular around those parts... ;)

I haven't played out all his dialogues, but it seems that he always ends up attacking me. I figure if he attacks first, no one cares. I don't remember what happens if I attack him first...

Few things I hate more than being in the middle of a battle when a Dowry priest comes up...

*Ahem* Oh, faithful one....

:madhell:

One advantage to staying in the temple as long as possible... you don't have priests casting Venom Bite and poisoning you all the time. Man, does that get annoying....

Re: Xydusa overrated?
 

Poisoning by snake priests isn't tragedy. Their poisoning is slow, moreover, they also drop bags of Cure Poison potions. Don't cure as long as you can heal youself easily. Use the potions only if you lose hit points too quickly.
On the other hand, Xydusa can be dangerous. Her poisoning is serious. You'd better cure yourself ASAP.

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Allright now, i have the mask of evil, i killed xydusa, elyssia, kreug and every priest i could find. I freed H'tark and gave him his lockpicks, i have the wand for herespia, the trickery-scroll for the bard, dozens of coins for the thief-guild and also still a couple of spider-nectar and spider-eggs to make more warlocks. So you could say, i really did the serpent-temple. But sill ... there's one thing like a thorn in my eye. One single door that i can't open. I guess, it's not important, but i don't feel completely satisfied. It's a bit hard to discribe: When you come from the main-entrance and walk upwards that huge entrance-hall, you come to a room, where two doors lead west, and between them, there is a small stairway leading down to that bleeping door. I cant find any lever, lock or anything.
Could anyone give me a hint, mayby not a "walkthrough", but a small push into the right direction?

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It's an "one way" door. It lets you "out" but not "in". Small pushing: Realize where the area behind the door can be and search another way in :)

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Of course! How simple. It would have helped to watch the maps of both of the temple-levels at the same time.
Thank you , radek. Now i can die in peace. Or even better: Head for shurugeon castle.

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Have fun on your way to the castle :) Watch out for the Gael Serran's roving salad bar, though... ;) :wow:

BTW, have you done the belfry?

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Welcome to the boards, Woodwose!!!

You have gotten excellent help (which is no surprise here) :)

Wyv

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Thank you also, wyvern.

Belfry? In the serpent-temple? I dont recall anything, that looked like a belfry. I'll return later and look for it.

Okay, i would say, the salads are not overrated.
The first time, i met them, they left me with my mouth open, staring at those 6 skulls, that used to be my party. But once you got the trick, it's half as hard. Good timing is essential, and hope, you aren't distracted by those ninja-rats at the same time.
Well, i think, this thread went a long way from "xydusa overrated?" now.

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Belfry is one of the secret area in the Serpent Temple. This is one of the earlier discussion about it.

Belfry