<font color=skyblue>What do you guys think about this? Anyone have one? My brother-in-law told me about them this past weekend and is looking to get one, and it perked my interest. It is basically a fan working with a radiator right on the spot insted of having water pumped through to an external source. My bro-in-law says that he has a friend who has one who claims that he pushed his PC on a heating test and could not get it up to even room temp. Here are a couple weblinks.

Direct link talking about the thing: http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=3098

Link to this and other products made by this company: http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?sh...on=2&menuID=-1

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Hmm... you need airflow to get evaporation... and in a closed system like that I'm not sure how they're getting sufficient airflow. Maybe their thinking the vapor pressure will create flow up to the radiator section (with condensate returning) and that flow will be sufficient.

I dunno... looks like it COULD work, but it depends a lot on the implementation.

I think it looks like it could NOT work, but then again, so do airplanes.

Looks pretty nifty. Too bad it's not available locally to me, I'd like to see one in person.

lol!

No

Umm... it's a bit... err... That's supposed to go on my CPU, inside the case? OK, so I turn it towards the back of the case so it has an intake... and I add in some good screws so my motherboard doesn't snap... It would work, that much is true. Both the cycle design, the airflow and the refrigerant used suggest that it might work, but I am a bit worried about the physical profile. How exactly does it fit, stay in, not move and not break anything?
EDIT: I've just seen the pictures of it mounted inside a PC. No, that wouldn't work that way. Why would I turn it like that? It slams air into the Power Unit, and some PUs(mine for example) have an exit fan at that particular location. So what the heck? More and more I'm thinking this is just a gimmicky cooler, if set up that way.

[ 08-17-2006, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: Bozos of Bones ]

Well, Bozos and myself both think it's bad, so I hope that's enough to help you make a decision [img]smile.gif[/img]

A quick search on Google reveals a number of reviews . No need for links, they are easy enough to find. While I didn't find any reviews by sites considered to be the premiere tech sites on the web the five I did check gave this product a decent rating. EDIT: I lied...Guru 3d has a review up. http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/240/

Having said that it wasn't considered top dog since other products best it's cooling performance as well as noise levels. It looks like it would block airflow in the case, which isn't a good idea if you're running a halfway decent videocard (or two). These days it's the GFX that requires the attention, not the CPU. The only real plus to this is price.

Of course I've never had a problem with stock cooling (I've never owned a P4 either...well I have owned P4's before. Maybe that should be that I've never bought a P4 before. :D )

My old Barton used to get to about 25C above ambient air temp under full load, but I think that was due more to bad airflow through the case than the actual CPU. My latest X2 now runs at about 15C above ambient under full load with stock cooling.

[ 08-17-2006, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: Zebodog ]

<font color=skyblue>Thanks guys. Opinions are appreciated and I'll pass along to my brother-in-law that his friend's opinion of this thing is minority.</font>

About cooling, I must brag.
After cleaning the case, and remodeling the flow(new motherboard), I have achieved 35 degrees Celcius on the CPU, 19 on the motherboard and 20 on the GPU. That's full load, after playing Unreal Tournament 2004 or Heroes V for a few hours.
/brag

Holy crap!

That is certainly brag worthy!


But I must also brag, my Stock cooled X2 4800 never gets past 29 degrees celcius :D


Then again, my giant video card gets nice and warm and that causes problems for my motherboard becasue one of the temp sensors is right under it :(

Dudes...The new intel proc's don't need this ridiculous crap. It was always a bad design, the thermal waste of their processors, and the Core Duo X6800, with a midrange fan doesn't budge, temp-wise. Heck, supposedly, it'll run for hours and hours without the fan running.

Costs too much for me to own for the next four years, but by then, hopefully, all the designs will be running cooler...including those GPUs.

For the record, my system survives with 39-50 degree CPU temperatures, and mid thirties everywhere else.

Of the many many coolers I've tried over the years... the best HSF I've found is the Zalman CNP-S7000 series, great cooling and almost silent. The only thing I've ever seen better is liquid, but liquid is a PITA for anything other than hobby type builds. My Koolance case is about as well designed as liquid systems get but I still won't do it again. The Zalman will keep my Athlon 64 3200 in the low-mid 30's all day, which is perfectly adequate. FWIW the Koolance case will hold cpu temps to a couple degrees C above ambient, low 20's usually. Overclocking is where liquid does help... but overclocking is even more of a PITA than liquid cooling. (guess I'm getting old and bored with constantly fixing computers when I break em)

<-has Zalman AlCu 7000 and is very pleased with it.
BTW, Hive, those are NICE NUMBERS! Especially for a stock cooler.