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Keal 08-15-2004 11:29 AM

Vote now wether your old enough or not!

Illumina Drathiran'ar 08-15-2004 11:42 AM

Kerry, for now. I would have preferred Dean if he didn't turn out to be undiplomatic. And in the long run, I feel sorry for Nader. I would have been proud to call him my president someday, but as it is now people hate him, and it'll probably never happen.
But as I lull myself to sleep tonight, I'll dream of President Howard Dean, Vice President Ralph Nader, and wonder what might have been.

Jorath Calar 08-15-2004 12:36 PM

Kerry and Howie, somehow having men called Bush and Dick running the most powerful country in the world doesn't appeal to me.

[ 08-15-2004, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: Jorath Calar ]

Svaerdhelgon 08-16-2004 09:47 AM

I would have voted for Cobb but he wasn´t an option

Aerich 08-16-2004 02:02 PM

I'm not going to vote, for the simple reason that I'm not eligible. Also not sure how either of them view Canada or intend to treat us, so I can't really say I have a preference based on that. Both of them seem open to a degree of protectionism in trade.

I dislike Bush's foreign policy, but I really don't know how Kerry will jump - the known vs. the unknown. If pressed, I suppose I'd go Kerry, but I don't feel I have that much of a stake in the election, although it may turn out afterward that I did.

Edit: it would be interesting to see what Nader could/would do, but I'd prefer to find out without having to vote him in. Actually, I feel that way about all potential leaders - maybe we need a trial period; everybody gets two months to show their stuff...

[ 08-16-2004, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Aerich ]

wellard 08-16-2004 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
Kerry and Howie, somehow having men called Bush and Dick running the most powerful country in the world doesn't appeal to me.
LOL ... that may have been an old joke but it is the first time I realised that [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]

wellard 08-16-2004 07:38 PM

If those outside the USA could vote i doubt even George 'i stand for democrocy' Bush would be able to fix the poll for another win ;) [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img]

Oblivion437 08-16-2004 08:06 PM

He didn't fix the polls last time...

Besides, I wouldn't want Islamo-Fascists and known terrorists voting in an election, especially one where my future is at stake.

I'll vote for Badnarik, and I'll use my voter registration card to give Hillary Klin-Ton a series of vicious paper cuts.

Timber Loftis 08-16-2004 08:40 PM

You better watch out Oblivion, Ms. Klin-Ton may get the chance to be president one day, and I believe there are a fair number of us who would support her.

I don't know how I'll vote. Since Kerry WILL win in my state, my delimma is do I cast my vote for him as I normally would or do I use it to make a statement.

But, if I didn't live in the People's Democratic Republic of Illinois, I'd vote for Kerry, especially in a swing state. He's the only one with a chance to win, and while I'd prefer to do some things differently, in the meantime I'd just like to get Bush out of office. Bush is killing my line of work. It's that simple.

I can argue about the issues all day long (hate the Patriot Act, but don't like the Brady bill either, hate giveaways to both the rich and the poor, hate terrorists but hate going to Iraq, etc., etc.). But at the end of the day I vote my pocketbook. And, in environmental law, I have to go with anybody but Bush. If no one is enforcing environmental law, my clients don't need me. Hey, I like my clients, but not THAT much. (Ummm... I do *like* enforcing environmental law on a philosophical level as well -- the *is* a reason I went into this line of work.)

So, join with me fellow IWF'ers, and vote to put America on a No-C.A.R.B.* diet!!
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* C.A.R.B. = Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, & Bush. ;)

[ 08-16-2004, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Timber Loftis 08-16-2004 08:44 PM

Just saw the results. God do I wish all you namby pamby liberals from around the world could vote in our elections. :D

Xen 08-17-2004 04:29 PM

I do not live in the US but I would wote for Kerry, because from what I saw on the news he seems "smarter" then Bush.

Dreamer128 08-17-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Just saw the results. God do I wish all you namby pamby liberals from around the world could vote in our elections. :D
Sorry Timber. You'll have to settle for moral support ;)

Target 08-18-2004 10:47 AM

Who ever has the best forigen policy, thats who I'd vote for, guess that's Bush out then :D
Where does Kerry or the other guy stand?

Timber Loftis 08-18-2004 11:49 AM

Kerry wants to work with other nations and run a "more sensitive" war on terror. I don't know which crack pipe he found that phrase in, but there it is.

On trade, he wants to hammer the WTO on labor and environmental standards, and he's willing to enact protectionist measures in the US to back this up until the WTO can come around a bit on these issues.

On Ketchup, he's happy to export Heinz to any country that has the patience to wait for the good things to come.

LordKathen 08-22-2004 01:37 AM

<font color=lime>Timber, I love you. </font>

Hivetyrant 08-23-2004 08:11 AM

Well after seeing "This Land" I was very confused as to who I would vote for, but If I lived in the US and could vote it would be for kerry, because he "Won three purple hearts!!!"

Yorick 08-29-2004 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Just saw the results. God do I wish all you namby pamby liberals from around the world could vote in our elections. :D
Well you wouldn't want Australian Liberals voting. Labor is the traditionally leftist party in Oz. The Liberals are for a Liberal economy, not liberal social policy.

I still find the American definition of liberal to be a bit odd. The wholesale labelling is even odder.

Oblivion437 09-05-2004 06:02 PM

Well, they assigned the label to themselves. At least there's no confusing Libertarian!

Gxc 09-08-2004 06:33 PM

not old enough to vote... so i dont pay much attention.

Morgan_Corbesant 09-27-2004 10:29 PM

Despite what people think, I'm voting for Bush. Kerry has alot of hidden stuff that hasn't come to surface. I can't say why or how I know this, but I can say that I just have a feeling. Its politics, everyone is out to make the others look bad. Bush has an undeserved bad rap. There are alot of things Clinton jacked up before he left office and Bush is catching the crap for it. (These are my personal beliefs) All Bush has had to deal with is Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq is justifiable, and I'll sum up WHY WMD's were not found in another post. Too many people are on the anti-Bush bandwagon and don't even know why. All Kerry has going for him is he talks slow, he is married to Miss Ketchup (isn't she a Kennedy too?), and he isn't Bush. But enough of this, I don't want to get into it in this post [img]smile.gif[/img] .

If he ran, I would vote for Colin Powell. As for Hillary...I would vote for
R-Kelly's petophyle butt before I would vote for Hillary. Maybe Arnold could be president, or Charlton Heston heh. Oh well, we'll see what happens in a couple months.

Morgan_Corbesant 09-27-2004 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
Well after seeing "This Land" I was very confused as to who I would vote for, but If I lived in the US and could vote it would be for kerry, because he "Won three purple hearts!!!"
Being in the military I can tell you that purple hearts aren't exactly hard to get. If you are in combat, fall down and break your finger, you will get a purple heart. (ok, not THAT easy, but quite easy). Now if he got a Congressional Medal of Honor, THEN I would be more inclined to vote for him. He didn't WIN them, he was given them. Look how many people in Iraq and Afghanistan have had them given too.

Klorox 09-30-2004 10:56 AM

Morgan, you're my friggin' hero man.

Morgan_Corbesant 09-30-2004 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Klorox:
Morgan, you're my friggin' hero man.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?!

:D

Klorox 09-30-2004 07:43 PM

No, not at all.

And thank you for your service to our wonderful country.

Morgan_Corbesant 10-01-2004 12:15 AM

Well thanks man. And thank you for the support. Its good to here a POSITIVE response every now and again, heh.

Klorox 10-01-2004 03:04 PM

I've got your back.


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