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Dreamer128 08-06-2004 07:33 PM

Don't claim to be perfect, no one is going to buy it [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Svaerdhelgon 08-06-2004 08:28 PM

Close call between lust and vanity but took lust,I´m tha luvvaman ;)

The Hierophant 08-07-2004 05:28 AM

I'm gonna go with (unwarrented) vanity, although sloth factors significantly into the equation too ;)

Melusine 08-07-2004 05:35 AM

Hmm, I don't consider most of them sins when they only occur IN MODERATION. E.g. I guess lust would be one for me, but the extent to which it plays a part in my life I do not consider sinful at all. To me it would only become sinful if I harmed others with it. Sloth is a good one too, that may come closest to being sinful in my eyes since it harms me. I'm not exceptionally vain, usually not at all envious either. I wouldn't mind finally reaching a period in my life where financial worries would cease eating me up, but I'm not very avaricious. I can live on a small budget and just bide my time and hope things will look up a little. That leaves... erm... wrath and gluttony. :D Well, I have my bouts of the first one, trying to deal with that and it's getting more and more rare. But that might fall under the 'sinful' denominator. As for gluttony, LOL! I don't consider that a sin in my case [img]tongue.gif[/img] I'm fervently trying to gain weight and I *have* to eat as much as I can manage to stow away every day. It's finally working just a little bit too - I think I may have gained one or two pounds recently. What I do find sinful about gluttony is all the overweight children I see around these days. [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] That's just disgustingly bad parenting. Parents have horrid eating habits themselves and are unable to provide a good example to their children - I find that really worrying! Apparently, the huge increase in childhood obesity will lead to a huge increase in diabetes patients later on. How can these parents do that to their kids? What you do when you're an adult is up to you, but to a child, a regular, healthy, not too high-fat diet is SO important!
Erm. Going off on a tangent here, sorry.
Anyway, in the poll I really wanted to pick "Most of the above" but since that option was unavailable and since none of the sins really sprung out in my case, I picked "All of them" ;) [img]graemlins/littleangel.gif[/img]

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Quote:

Originally posted by The Hierophant:
I'm gonna go with (unwarrented) vanity, although sloth factors significantly into the equation too ;)
Hehehe... I would have said the same if I had to pick for you ;)

[ 08-07-2004, 05:36 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

The Hierophant 08-07-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
What I do find sinful about gluttony is all the overweight children I see around these days. [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] That's just disgustingly bad parenting. Parents have horrid eating habits themselves and are unable to provide a good example to their children - I find that really worrying! Apparently, the huge increase in childhood obesity will lead to a huge increase in diabetes patients later on. How can these parents do that to their kids? What you do when you're an adult is up to you, but to a child, a regular, healthy, not too high-fat diet is SO important!

*flinches* Oooooh, yeah, there goes that wrath again! [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] Let's hope someone keeps you away from sharp knives dear, we don't want you going on a crazed, wrath-fueled rampage of vigilante, no-anaesthetic fat-removal surgery ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Melusine 08-07-2004 06:18 AM

Smartass. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
It's not wrath, it's sympathy. It's not the fat I object to, it's the health problems of which the fat is only an outer signal. I saw five-year-olds on Crete who must've weighed over twice what I weigh! I really do find that sad. A kid can't teach itself how to keep healthy, it needs its parents to do that. And if children are raised on bad food and with horrible eating habits, I think it's extremely difficult for them to amend this in adulthood. Those parents deliberately give their children a bad start in life, and yes that makes me feel angry and sad and sorry. And I know you know that and were just trying to be a smartass who's also so vain he has to hear his own mouth flap (or hands flap on the keyboard) 24/7 but... nyah nyah. ;)

Xen 08-07-2004 06:48 AM

Wrath. But themper is more appropriate expresion. I get angy pretty qickly if there`s something I can`t do or achieve. I also, want to learn everyting "right now" and if I don`t I get a little angy/sad. But this stage is short, so when (if) I overcome this I try again and again.

The Hierophant 08-07-2004 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
Smartass. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
It's not wrath, it's sympathy. It's not the fat I object to, it's the health problems of which the fat is only an outer signal. I saw five-year-olds on Crete who must've weighed over twice what I weigh! I really do find that sad. A kid can't teach itself how to keep healthy, it needs its parents to do that. And if children are raised on bad food and with horrible eating habits, I think it's extremely difficult for them to amend this in adulthood. Those parents deliberately give their children a bad start in life, and yes that makes me feel angry and sad and sorry. And I know you know that and were just trying to be a smartass who's also so vain he has to hear his own mouth flap (or hands flap on the keyboard) 24/7 but... nyah nyah. ;)

Heh heh, yeah, you're a regular Mother Teresa ;)

And hey, I can't help it if my voice sounds so beautiful that it'd be a crime NOT to let its melodic tones ring out at every possible opportunity... same goes for my internet posts. :D
You said that jealousy wasn't one of your vices Sarah, but don't I know better [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] :D

shadowhound 08-07-2004 08:57 AM

Was a tough choice between Lust and Avarice (Aka: Good old Greed). Went with greed in the end, I love money and all things materialistic :D

Jorath Calar 08-07-2004 11:36 AM

Sloth... I don't ever do anything usefull unless my life depends on it.

Aelia Jusa 08-07-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
Apparently, the huge increase in childhood obesity will lead to a huge increase in diabetes patients later on.
Actually, it's leading to an increase in diabetes NOW - what used to be an older person's disease is becoming a young person's disease fast - there are a lot of children under 18 who have type 2 diabetes right now. And I agree with everything you said as well. One of the biggest contributing factors isn't just the high fat food they eat, but also the high sugar drinks - drinking soft drinks at every meal and even worse, those energy drinks like gatorade! If there's anyone who doesn't need these drinks it's sedentary children.

I had to vote all of them too, although I would have preferred 'all of them, some of the time'. Or maybe not all of them, but most anyway. I can't think of any one of them that I would do exceptionally more than the others, but I think I would be guilty of wrath, lust and avarice a bit less often than the others.

Melusine 08-07-2004 06:08 PM

Aelia, I didn't want to go into it too much (Aaron is ever-vigilant when it comes to my posts and starts to whine whenever I get too excited about anything that doesn't involve him [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D ) but you're right! Of course I know that the problem is not fat alone, but as I said generally bad dietary habits including irregular mealtimes, slaking thirst with sugary or "light" drinks rather than water, eating too much fast food, not getting enough fresh veggies and fruit, etc. I'm far from a health Nazi and I love to eat all kinds of stuff but especially with children I think it's really important to teach them good habits and give them a good example when it comes to food. And yes, type 2 diabetes is already a problem but from what I hear (at least in Europe) it will become dramatically more so in some years. :(

DrowArchmage 08-07-2004 08:36 PM

id have to say wrath,noone in the computer world makes me angry for i can hack well,nobody in reality for i am strong as hell because of my job {check profile}

Rikard T'Aranaxz 08-07-2004 10:49 PM

I'd have to say Envy, which is mainly caused by emotional instability [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Aerich 08-09-2004 08:40 PM

Sloth. I'm getting better at kicking myself in the pants when I need to get going, but most of the time I decide I'll do it tomorrow. :D

T-D-C 08-10-2004 01:34 AM

Sloth, why do something today when you can put it off till tomorrow.

Hivetyrant 08-11-2004 04:41 AM

Yeah, its Wrath when I cant be bothered bieng a sloth... Wait... Oh well

Stormymystic 08-11-2004 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
What I do find sinful about gluttony is all the overweight children I see around these days. [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] That's just disgustingly bad parenting. Parents have horrid eating habits themselves and are unable to provide a good example to their children - I find that really worrying! Apparently, the huge increase in childhood obesity will lead to a huge increase in diabetes patients later on. How can these parents do that to their kids? What you do when you're an adult is up to you, but to a child, a regular, healthy, not too high-fat diet is SO important!

not to start a big argument here, but parents have to be taught too ;) I am just now learning what is healthy and what is not, my parents meals consisted of a bunch of junk food, now my parents live off of little debbie snack cakes. I guess what I am trying to say is if it is the only life you know, and no one teaches you differently, then who is really to blame? the parents of the parents? or the parents of the parents parents? anyway back on topic here...I am unsure of what my major sin is, mostly because I never really think about it and can not figure out what half of them are really supposed to be ;) but I guess the main one would be envy. because I do envy people who have had and still have a better life than I do.

Blind_Prophet 08-11-2004 02:59 PM

Lets just say my friends used to call me Sloth

The Hierophant 08-12-2004 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blind_Prophet:
Lets just say my friends used to call me Sloth
Like, as in, a lazy sloth?
Or 'Sloth' from The Goonies? (man I loved that movie as a kid! :D )

Blind_Prophet 08-12-2004 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hierophant:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Blind_Prophet:
Lets just say my friends used to call me Sloth

Like, as in, a lazy sloth?
Or 'Sloth' from The Goonies? (man I loved that movie as a kid! :D )
</font>[/QUOTE]uh both apply

Melusine 08-12-2004 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stormymystic:
not to start a big argument here, but parents have to be taught too ;) I am just now learning what is healthy and what is not, my parents meals consisted of a bunch of junk food, now my parents live off of little debbie snack cakes. I guess what I am trying to say is if it is the only life you know, and no one teaches you differently, then who is really to blame? the parents of the parents? or the parents of the parents parents?
Er, that's precisely the point I am making. Children that are raised on junk food will never get a good start and will lack vital information on how to feed themselves. You were one of those children so no, I'm not saying you are to blame, your parents are. (you can't go back too far in time with the blame since three generations back, at maximum, people didn't even have junk food chains and eating habits of back then cannot be compared to those of today.)

HOWEVER, as soon as you (generic you!) think you are responsible enough to have children of your own, THEN you should be responsible enough to make sure they are in the best possible health you can give them. You have to learn lots of stuff when you have a baby, don't you? Well then I see no reason why it would be impossible to learn about good food at that stage. It's your responsibility as a parent to find out what's best for your children and it's not as if it's such a big secret which foodstuffs are good and which ones are bad.
In fact, in the Western World of today I think it's almost impossible to have no knowledge of good and bad food. Everyone KNOWS that fruit and veggies are good for you and three McMeals a day are not. Or would you say the people suing McDonalds because they "had no idea that eating hamburgers all the time was bad for you" were in the right?

Edit: spelling

[ 08-12-2004, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Lady Blue03 08-12-2004 05:33 PM

<font color=pink>Sloth for me, I'm the laziest person I know


And while these aren't *sins* persay, they're from some old text called "March of the Seven Deadly Sins" written by the same guy who wrote "Paradise Lost" iirc *shrug*</font>

Dreamer128 08-12-2004 05:38 PM

I have to agree with Mel here. A very negative trent is developing in the Western World. I don't have statistics for Western Europe, but about 90 Million Americans are already heavily overweight. I think that is about 30% of their population. But they are not the only ones with this problem. Overweight is a growing problem in the EU as well. Even parents that know better often neglect the child due of lack of time.

Jorath Calar 08-12-2004 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-D-C:
Sloth, why do something today when you can put it off till tomorrow.
Thats not sloth, sloth says "why do something today when you can put it off till next month

...or let someone else do it for you..." [img]smile.gif[/img]

Melusine 08-13-2004 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Blue03:
<font color=pink>Sloth for me, I'm the laziest person I know


And while these aren't *sins* persay, they're from some old text called "March of the Seven Deadly Sins" written by the same guy who wrote "Paradise Lost" iirc *shrug*</font>

John Milton? I don't think he ever wrote anything by that name.
I think you mean Dante Alighieri - he lists the seven deadly sins in his Inferno.

uss 08-14-2004 02:12 AM

I was going to go with Lust but I have not yet reached adulthood, so I guess it's normal. :D

As Al Pacino said: "Vanity is definitely my favourite sin." :D Hehe, I love that movie.


If anyone has trouble remembering what the seven sins exactly stand for, http://deadlysins.com/sins/ is a good site for refreshing the mind.

That site also includes history regarding the sins, and to shed some light on this matter, I'll quote the site:
" According to Sacred Origins of Profound Things, by Charles Panati, Greek monastic theologian Evagrius of Pontus first drew up a list of eight offenses and wicked human passions:. They were, in order of increasing seriousness: gluttony, lust, avarice, sadness, anger, acedia, vainglory, and pride. Evagrius saw the escalating severity as representing increasing fixation with the self, with pride as the most egregious of the sins. Acedia (from the Greek "akedia," or "not to care") denoted "spiritual sloth.""


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