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Beef 09-13-2002 08:08 PM

What NPCs simply cannot get along with each other?

More specifically, what I wanna know is this: What relationships are particularly bad? I heard that some interactions even lead up to bloodshed and NPCs leaving the party.

This is about all I know about the interactions:
1) Generally good NPCs don't get along with generally evil NPCs.
2) The three romancable female NPCs fight over the male PC.
3) Yoshimo seems to get along with everyone just fine.
4) Korgan basically doesn't get along with anyone not evil (save for Yoshimo).

What else is noteworthy?

LennonCook 09-13-2002 08:12 PM

<font color="lightblue">Edwin/Jaheira
Jaheira/Haer'Dalis
Keldorn/Viconia
Korgan/Aerie
</font>

Tancred 09-13-2002 08:14 PM

Hmm.

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Aerie and Korgan just DON't get on; a personality clash.
Keldorn and Viconia evetually clash over religious differences.
Viconia constantly winds up Valygar.
Edwin and Minsc hate each other's guts, predictably.
Anomen and Keldorn start seeing red if Anomen fails his test.
Haer'Dalis will duel YOU if you romance Aerie.

There are loads of other neat relationships - some good, some bad - but these are the most violent ones.

D*Ranged 09-13-2002 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tancred:
Hmm.

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Aerie and Korgan just DON't get on; a personality clash.
Keldorn and Viconia evetually clash over religious differences.
Viconia constantly winds up Valygar.
Edwin and Minsc hate each other's guts, predictably.
Anomen and Keldorn start seeing red if Anomen fails his test.
Haer'Dalis will duel YOU if you romance Aerie.

There are loads of other neat relationships - some good, some bad - but these are the most violent ones.

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Valygar ONLY attacks Viconia when she mocks his manhood when the courtesan asks Valygar out.

D*Ranged 09-13-2002 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Tancred:
Hmm.

SPOILERS
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Aerie and Korgan just DON't get on; a personality clash.
Keldorn and Viconia evetually clash over religious differences.
Viconia constantly winds up Valygar.
Edwin and Minsc hate each other's guts, predictably.
Anomen and Keldorn start seeing red if Anomen fails his test.
Haer'Dalis will duel YOU if you romance Aerie.

There are loads of other neat relationships - some good, some bad - but these are the most violent ones.

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Valygar ONLY attacks Viconia when she mocks his manhood when the courtesan asks Valygar out.

D*Ranged 09-13-2002 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Beef:
[QB]What NPCs simply cannot get along with each other?

4) Korgan basically doesn't get along with anyone not evil (save for Yoshimo).

QB]
Korgan DOES get on with Jan though...

Jon Irenicus 09-13-2002 11:48 PM

"Haer'Dalis will duel YOU if you romance Aerie." What does that mean??

Beef 09-14-2002 01:29 AM

Good to know about these personality clashes but do any of them lead to an NPC's death or to an NPC leaving the party?

If an NPC does end up leaving the party because of it, then are they gone for good?

Tancred 09-14-2002 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jon Irenicus:
"Haer'Dalis will duel YOU if you romance Aerie." What does that mean??
Precisely what it says! If you romance Aerie while Haer'Dalis is also in the party, the fool Blade will fall for her as well, and eventualy challenge you to a duel for her love. I kid you not.

Warby 09-14-2002 06:00 PM

Alternativly you can just download the files that get rid off the infighting and have any group you want. Basically one with Edwin and Keldorn in.

Warby

Lord Lothar 09-14-2002 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Warby:
Alternativly you can just download the files that get rid off the infighting and have any group you want. Basically one with Edwin and Keldorn in.

Warby

SInce when do Keldorn and Edwin fight?

Lord Lothar 09-14-2002 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Beef:
Good to know about these personality clashes but do any of them lead to an NPC's death or to an NPC leaving the party?

If an NPC does end up leaving the party because of it, then are they gone for good?

The NPC's remove themselves from the party and duel each other.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 09-14-2002 09:31 PM

I disagree with the idea that Haer'Dalis and Jahiera don't get along. I've interpreted their banters as almost flirtatious. They don't seriosuly insult each other like Viconia insults Aerie and Valygar.

Piestrider 09-14-2002 09:58 PM

Thats funny, everyone says that Viconia and Keldorn don't get along but I had no trouble with those two and I used both of them all the way through SOA and TOB. I was romancing her at the time though.

BTW, just for the record, Jahera doesn't get along with ANYBODY. Even your main character. :D . Tough girl.

Jerr Conner 09-14-2002 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
I disagree with the idea that Haer'Dalis and Jahiera don't get along. I've interpreted their banters as almost flirtatious. They don't seriosuly insult each other like Viconia insults Aerie and Valygar.
Hmmm, want to work on a Haer'Dalis and Jaheira romance dialogue with me if the PC romances Aerie instead of Jaheira? Lol wouldn't that be interesting!

Illumina Drathiran'ar 09-15-2002 11:20 AM

Sure thing, that would be fun.

And for the record, I don't see Jahiera as abrasive, she just has a unique way of communicating. She's like that tough teacher you had in grammar school who you hated, but looking back she just wanted to push you to be your best.

One of my favorite dialogues involving Jahiera was the Nalia and Jahiera talk in ToB. ::sniffle:: I was so proud of little Nally Nalia! All grown up.. ::cough cough:: What're you looking at?!


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