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Grojlach 07-29-2005 05:31 PM

Now I've seen it all.

http://tinypic.com/9ktmpx.jpg

Two interviews with some racist site (making it even more unsettling than the concept already is):
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=3652

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=4330

Whatever way you turn it, these girls' parents are downright scumbags. Period.

Aragorn1 07-29-2005 05:41 PM

'pro-white', I love it! :D
The great thing about racists is they really beleive they aren't racist and are in fact standing up for their rights.

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Please tell me the significance of the name Prussian Blue.
Part of our heritage is Prussian German. Also our eyes are blue, and Prussian Blue is just a really pretty color. There is also the discussion of the lack of "Prussian Blue" coloring (Zyklon B residue) in the so-called gas chambers in the concentration camps. We think it might make people question some of the inaccuracies of the "Holocaust" myth.
OMG, small children...very very wrong

[ 07-29-2005, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

Szass-Tam 07-29-2005 06:18 PM

The young are often more easily indoctrinated. This is very disturbing.

uss 07-29-2005 08:31 PM

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Please tell me the significance of the name Prussian Blue.
Part of our heritage is Prussian German. Also our eyes are blue, and Prussian Blue is just a really pretty color. There is also the discussion of the lack of "Prussian Blue" coloring (Zyklon B residue) in the so-called gas chambers in the concentration camps. We think it might make people question some of the inaccuracies of the "Holocaust" myth.
I'm not sure if I see the point here. Discussion of the lack of "Prussian Blue" coloring might make people question some of the inaccuracies of the "Holocaust" myth? WTF?

Also, why does she say "so-called gas chambers"? It either was a gas chamber or it wasn't. And in this case, it was.


In any case, this is rather disturbing. [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img] Plus, I don't like folk music at all. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Firestormalpha 07-29-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by uss:
Also, why does she say "so-called gas chambers"? It either was a gas chamber or it wasn't. And in this case, it was.

I believe they are among those that refuse to believe the holocaust during WWII ever really happened. Note the reference to the holocaust as a "myth". A lot of people are sadly in denial of that horrifying truth.

But over all, the story here is just depressing.

[ 07-29-2005, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Firestormalpha ]

johnny 07-29-2005 08:49 PM

http://photobucket.com/albums/y293/l.../th_hitler.gif

Jorath Calar 07-29-2005 09:09 PM

Un believable... and they say their grandmother was Icelandic... ungh, I may be related to these retarts...

I never understood rascism by the way, why hate someone based on the colour of their skin when you can take your time and really get to know them there are so many other things to loathe a person for...

just kidding... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Aerich 07-30-2005 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
I never understood rascism by the way, why hate someone based on the colour of their skin when you can take your time and really get to know them there are so many other things to loathe a person for...

just kidding... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Plain and simple? Lack of self-confidence leading to a "need" to find something to be superior about - Hitler was a poster child for this, as well as for obsession, and probably multiple psychological instabilities. Also the same sort of instinctive "Other" mentality that causes wolves to drive oddly coloured wolves (black, white) away from the back. "Different is dangerous" has been hardwired into our society.

Lack of self-confidence is probably not the root case for these girls. They are parroting the white supremacist doctrine to the letter. I'd like to have a little "talk" with their parents...

Sigmar 07-30-2005 01:04 PM

Brain-washed racist morons.

AND they perform folk music too...'tis truly the work of the devil.

Seriously messed up.

Bozos of Bones 07-30-2005 02:51 PM

Ordinarily I am against teh death penalty, but I think these parents need a lesson, and the world needs a guarantee that this kind of stupidity won't happen again. I mean, if I were an intelligent White Power World Pride member(which mutually exclusive in itself) I'd see this as a perfect example that I'm in an organisation of idiots. And morons.

Szass-Tam 07-30-2005 06:08 PM

Hang on a second. Freedom of Speech entitles them to their opinion, and the Death Penalty is far too harsh a punishment. I'm not for what these girls are saying, but you can't give the Death Penalty for that.

Bozos of Bones 07-30-2005 06:13 PM

Yah, I know, I was joking on that part. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Jorath Calar 07-30-2005 10:05 PM

These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Firestormalpha 07-30-2005 10:17 PM

Some people are possessed of an incredible self-loathing.

SecretMaster 07-31-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

That saddens me greatly, yet I can't help myself from laughing.

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What do you think is the most important social issue facing the white race right now? Do you have any songs that address this issue?
Not having enough white babies born to replace ourselves and generally not having good-quality white people being born. It seems like smart white girls who have good eugenics are more interested in making money in a career or partying than getting married and having a family. And yes, we are working on some new songs about this issue.
I find that thoroughly disgusting. It is even worse that these are children talking about these issues. They really haven't experienced life to it's fullest yet they have already defined how life should be.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 07-31-2005 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by SecretMaster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

That saddens me greatly, yet I can't help myself from laughing.

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What do you think is the most important social issue facing the white race right now? Do you have any songs that address this issue?
Not having enough white babies born to replace ourselves and generally not having good-quality white people being born. It seems like smart white girls who have good eugenics are more interested in making money in a career or partying than getting married and having a family. And yes, we are working on some new songs about this issue.
I find that thoroughly disgusting. It is even worse that these are children talking about these issues. They really haven't experienced life to it's fullest yet they have already defined how life should be.
</font>[/QUOTE]No, their parents have defined how life should be FOR them. There's a huge difference. It's amazing how malleable young peoples' minds can be.

Grojlach 07-31-2005 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Keep in mind that the swastika is also a holy symbol in Hinduism.

johnny 07-31-2005 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by Grojlach:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Keep in mind that the swastika is also a holy symbol in Hinduism. </font>[/QUOTE]Then for his sake this picture better be taken in India, and not in a taxfree shop on Tel Aviv airport. :D

uss 07-31-2005 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Grojlach:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
These girls, while incredibly dumb are not the bottom of the pond...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...j61ncqzc2B.jpg

I wonder if he ever looked into a mirror... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Keep in mind that the swastika is also a holy symbol in Hinduism. </font>[/QUOTE]Check out these pictures. The swastika on the shirt resembles the Nazi version more than the others by far.

[ 07-31-2005, 07:00 AM: Message edited by: uss ]

Grojlach 07-31-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by uss:
Check out these pictures. The swastika on the shirt resembles the Nazi version more than the others by far.
Strangely enough I was initially going to quote some info from the very same site, so yes, I catch your drift. However, judging by the guy's somewhat Indian appearance, his attitude, facial expression and the fact that no one really seems to pay attention to him in the photograph lead me to believe that the guy has no idea of the negative connotations attached to it and that the photograph is horribly taken out of its original context. Either that, or he just has a really warped sense of humour.

And for any 'no one is that daft' naysayers, if some despot or political power in an Asian country would suddenly decide to start a fullscale war, wrecking havock in the region, preaching a message of hate and committing full-scale genocide, while at the same time adopting the Christian cross as a 'logo' for their propaganda purposes, do you really think Christians in the Western world would even consider discarding their holy symbol because of the negative connotations it may have in that Asian region? No, I don't think they will either.

Stratos 07-31-2005 10:20 AM

The colours of that guys t-shirt leads me to believe that it refers to the Nazis version of the swastika rather than the original one(s).

Bozos of Bones 07-31-2005 10:51 AM

I think the guy has a standard Red T-Shirt With The Symbol Of Zagor, and someone pasted upon it.

Grojlach 07-31-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Stratos:
The colours of that guys t-shirt leads me to believe that it refers to the Nazis version of the swastika rather than the original one(s).
The orange circle doesn't really fit that profile, though. It still doesn't really sit well, the coloring is still slightly off.

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Originally posted by Bozos of Bones:
I think the guy has a standard Red T-Shirt With The Symbol Of Zagor, and someone pasted upon it.
I have no idea who or what Zagor is supposed to be, but there's indeed also a very good chance it's merely a photoshopped picture in bad taste. Which would also explain the weird color pattern.

Mr. Mopery 07-31-2005 01:10 PM

In reading the "interview" with those girls, it seems pretty obvious to me that there's no way two young girls were saying things like this:

"Sacrifice: This song is an original that Lamb wrote with our mom. It talks about the sacrifice that so many men have made for their race. We mention Ian Stuart, Rudolph Hess, Bob Mathews and Dr Pierce. It is sung from a perspective that it is in the future and our Cause has been successful. Lamb sings the main part and Lynx sings on the chorus."

or

"The way that you look and act is activism in a way because you represent your family your beliefs and your race. You are a walking talking advertisement and our young people are the best advertisement so they need to realize this."

Like so many things about the white supremacy movement...excuse me, "awareness" movement...this interview is a crock of $@*&.

Vaskez 07-31-2005 01:16 PM

Not gonna bother reading the whole thread, but just thought I'd throw in a comment: the population in most white countries is either shrinking, stagnant, or growing at a rate <= 0.3% per year AFAIK, therefore the white race does actually have cause to fear dying out, in maybe a few dozen generations, but I wouldn't worry about it too much yet...

Jorath Calar 07-31-2005 01:57 PM

So? Good riddance, we are a bunch of goofy mofos... Can't help to think the planet would be better of without us...

johnny 07-31-2005 01:58 PM

Yep, soon Michael Jackson will be the only white (wo)man ? left. :D

Grojlach 07-31-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
Yep, soon Michael Jackson will be the only white (wo)man ? left. :D
As if Wacko doesn't commit suicide between now and five years.
On a related note, his record company released a career spanning "Essential Michael Jackson" double-CD recently, selling only 8000 (!) copies throughout the entire US in the first week.

Vaskez 07-31-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
So? Good riddance, we are a bunch of goofy mofos... Can't help to think the planet would be better of without us...
If ever there was a dumbass statement, that was it. How can you hate your own race? Traitor [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Aragorn1 07-31-2005 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Vaskez:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
So? Good riddance, we are a bunch of goofy mofos... Can't help to think the planet would be better of without us...

If ever there was a dumbass statement, that was it. How can you hate your own race? Traitor [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Perhaps the 'us' refers to the fact he's a white supremacist? :D

Stratos 07-31-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Grojlach:
The orange circle doesn't really fit that profile, though. It still doesn't really sit well, the coloring is still slightly off.

Well, it's close enough. I don't know about the colours; having just drunk a bottle of wine I'm not in the best condition to judge this.

[ 07-31-2005, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Jerr Conner 07-31-2005 05:32 PM

Is it just me, or do the girls look very unhappy in that picture?

Jorath Calar 07-31-2005 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Aragorn1:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Vaskez:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
So? Good riddance, we are a bunch of goofy mofos... Can't help to think the planet would be better of without us...

If ever there was a dumbass statement, that was it. How can you hate your own race? Traitor [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Perhaps the 'us' refers to the fact he's a white supremacist? :D </font>[/QUOTE]I'm more of a white.... minimalist... for lack of a better word... [img]smile.gif[/img]

No seriously, the "dumbass" statement was more of a joke (mostly to see the reaction to it) but not very far from what I acctually think...

johnny 07-31-2005 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Is it just me, or do the girls look very unhappy in that picture?
Probably because they haven't yet reached the age where it's permitted to join the waffen ss. :D

Vaskez 07-31-2005 08:29 PM

Ah good ol' johnny same as ever.

Jorath, so really, it wasn't a joke then [img]tongue.gif[/img] You're racist against whites. Execute the racist! :D

Jorath Calar 07-31-2005 08:34 PM

no, I got nothing against them, many of my friends are white...

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Jerr Conner 07-31-2005 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Is it just me, or do the girls look very unhappy in that picture?

Probably because they haven't yet reached the age where it's permitted to join the waffen ss. :D </font>[/QUOTE]Oh, I assumed because they were mad that someone of another race got the award they were going for at the Grammies.

Gnarf 08-01-2005 07:46 AM

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IS THERE ANYTHING CUTER than two identical twin twelve-year-old girls who have a band together? How about if they dress in matching plaid skirts—that ups the cuteness quotient, right? And what if they perform folky versions of classic racist songs by bands like Skrewdriver and Rahowa? Whoa! Now we are heading into the cute danger zone.
[img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] ... ... Yeh. Whoa.

Lauren 08-01-2005 08:05 AM

I remember reading about these girls when I was doing a paper on the natzi's and pro whites for my english class in school.
It's good they have chosen their path but not so good that they don't have an open mind.

Szass-Tam 08-01-2005 09:58 AM

What do mean it's good they have chosen their path?


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