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Beaumanoir 06-16-2005 02:40 PM

Okies. Bluntly, is there anyway of running an MS-DOS/Windows 95 Compliant Game on my XP computer??

Would be spiffing if you could help.

Jorath Calar 06-16-2005 02:42 PM

Try Dosbox... it's a Dos emulator, kinda puzzling so make sure you read the manual first... [img]smile.gif[/img]

dosbox.sourceforge.net

shamrock_uk 06-16-2005 02:45 PM

If it's a win95 game, there's always compatibility mode - right-click on the .exe, go to properties and you should see the tab along the top somewhere. You can select which OS to emulate as well as other options.

Morgeruat 06-16-2005 03:51 PM

bear in mind compatibility mode doesn't always work, and with older games sometimes it's just better to try and get an older system to run it (can usually found on the extreme cheap in most newspapers)

For me Compatibility mode has never worked for my Win 95 games (Command and Conquer, Red Alert, Magic The Gathering, C&C: Tiberium Sun (have to get the patch before it will run in XP or Win2k) among others. They either run or they don't. (if the game runs, but not well then compatibility mode might help)

Lavindathar 06-16-2005 05:28 PM

<font color="cyan">What game are you trying to run Tom?

P.S - I've tried ringing you tonight, can't get through. Will you ring me as soon as you see this, need to talk to you.

Cheers bro.</font>

[ 06-16-2005, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: Lavindathar ]

Beaumanoir 06-16-2005 06:32 PM

Constructor. One of my favourite games ever.Just want it to work :(

Vaskez 06-16-2005 07:25 PM

The best dos-emu program I've found is VDMSound do a search for it: that has a good chance of getting it to work

Bungleau 06-16-2005 11:19 PM

Take a look on the Tech Tips thread on the Wizards & Warriors board. There are a number of tips in there to get that game to run on XP, and they may help you. The compatibility mode tip is included... and you may need to try all three compatibility modes. They do behave differently.

Iron Greasel 06-17-2005 04:51 AM

I got Civilization working with DosBox. If you decide to try it, also download the D-Fend frontend for it.

Morgeruat 06-17-2005 09:10 AM

http://www.the-underdogs.org/

I've heard good things about Abandon loader.

It is a front-end that will allow you to play many old Abandonware games at the proper speed, and even emulate DOS sound for you. It has a far superior CPU slower to Origin's MoSlo program, and plays the Ultima games just fine for me. You should also search for VDMSound, a sort of codec pack that Abandon Loader uses.

Morgeruat 06-17-2005 09:11 AM

http://www.flashback-aw.net/links.php
http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3

Disclaimer: AFAIK this is strictly for old games that won't run on modern machines, or abandonware (and thus within the realm of the ToS, I neither condone nor desire to aid in piracy of any sort)

[ 06-17-2005, 09:13 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

Beaumanoir 06-17-2005 04:34 PM

It says, when i try to run it, that C:\windows\system32\autoexec.nt. is not suitable for running ms-dos programs.

That shed any light?

Lucern 06-17-2005 05:19 PM

I second Iron Greasel's DOSBox suggestion with D-Fend. I've run everything from my old gold-box collection to XCOM 2 and Master of Magic with it, fully functional.

There's a very useful function that lets you set the 'cycles' (speed) ranging from the ridiculously slow to the suitably fast. A few mid-late 90's games have less and less success, but of course that's after the time of Dos, so there's only so much a dos emulator can achieve there.

When a game doesn't seem to work in DOSBox, the DFend program lets you change and save settings until it works. It's good to see alternatives though, since I didn't know there were any. I did run accross a few lines of text in a search that indicated that someone had success with that very game in DOSBox, btw.

Beaumanoir 06-17-2005 06:08 PM

I downloaded D-fend, opened it on the floor, and then collapsed in a heap because it confused me.

Beaumanoir 06-17-2005 06:18 PM

Okay i got D-Fend working. PROBLEEEEEM strikes, same problem which i used to get when i tried loading it:

"Error = CD Must be in the drive"

It is!

Grrr...

So i tried runnin it straight from the CD using D-Fend - Same problem!

How can it tell me that the CD isnt in, when i'm running it from the CD?

Bastards.

Jorath Calar 06-17-2005 07:14 PM

Damn that D-fend is a storke of genius... dosbox acctually becomes useable... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sorry about the cd trouble...

andrewas 06-17-2005 07:39 PM

The CD is in the drive, but is that drive attached to DosBox? From the readme:

Quote:

2. To mount system cdrom drive E as cdrom drive D in DOSBox:
mount d e:\ -t cdrom
If you've gotten that far, it might be some form of copy protection that DosBox cant emulate well enough. In that case, a no-CD crack would be the easiest fix, but it may be hard to track one down for a game this old. UnderDogs have a cracked version up for download.

Beaumanoir 06-19-2005 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
The CD is in the drive, but is that drive attached to DosBox? From the readme:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
2. To mount system cdrom drive E as cdrom drive D in DOSBox:
mount d e:\ -t cdrom

If you've gotten that far, it might be some form of copy protection that DosBox cant emulate well enough. In that case, a no-CD crack would be the easiest fix, but it may be hard to track one down for a game this old. UnderDogs have a cracked version up for download. </font>[/QUOTE]I can never download anything from theunderdogs.org. Always says that there's 'no referrer set' as if i've come from another website, even though i havent. Grrr.

Firewall?

andrewas 06-19-2005 06:38 PM

Sigh. You know, if I could find those sodding leaches, blood would be spilt and Underdogs could relax those restrictions.

Anyway, the common cause of this is a download manager or accelerator, any program that hijacks the download from your browser will have problems on underdogs unless you configure it to provide the correct referrer information. Ive never managed to get Getright to work on underdogs though, so I just download directly through my browser, or get the torrent version.

Or it could be your firewall, some of them might block referrer information. If so, there should be a way to turn that off. Look under the privacy tab and in suchlike places.

Lavindathar 06-20-2005 11:24 AM

<font color="cyan">On the same topic, is it possible to patch a game running thorugh Dfend?

Cos, I want to patch Constructor, to get rid of the annoying bugs in it.

Is this possible?

</font>

andrewas 06-20-2005 12:03 PM

Probably though Dfend, definately through DosBox.

Put the patch in the constructor folder, fire up DosBox, mount the folder, run the patch.

Since I dont use Dfend, Im not sure how it works, but it should be much the same.

On the other hand, if the patch is in an archive of some kind, you should be able to just extract it with winRAR or something.


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