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39 years old, who the hell does he think he is!?

I wounder how much money he get for losing. ;)

ALOT.

<font color="cyan">He used to be a God, but he aint no more.

Still, If I got a coupla million for losing, I'd do it!!!

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He has to, he's completely broke again, and still owes a lot of money to certain folks, who will no doubt bury his sorry ass if he doesn't cough it up somehow. Tyson is a typical example of how deep some athletes can fall if they start thinking they own the world.

*sigh* why does he not just declare himself bankrupt and get rid of the leeches :(

Its so sad to see a genuine athlete fall to these levels, I wonder if there are that many people on this forum who can remember the time he was on course to be classed as the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time and have the respect of the masses.


On a boxing side note Sir Degrader, did you see the Kosta Tszyu v Ricky Hatton IBF light-welterweight fight last week? A true champion for about ten years getting beat by a worthy succesor. Both boxers had the greatist respect for each other before and after the fight. it was true class and a great example of boxing at its best, not the side show circus of the heavyweight division.

It was a good fight.... and very close on points as well before Kosta threw in the towel. He knew that Hatton was the better fighter that day and wanted to do the right thing. Kosta will be remembered as one of the best of all time.

Tyson's opponent is big but slow -- and Tyson can hook a nasty jab from 1' away, so I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he will lose.

Don't the opponent afraid that Tyson might bite off his ear? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Lol Kakero I was just gonna say that.

Too predictable, i think he's going to bite below the belt this time. :D

<font color="cyan">Ricky Hatton is awesome. He should be the champ for a long time now...</font>

<font color="cyan">Just seen some pictures, of I beleive it was the weigh-in, and that guy TOWERS over Tyson. Tyson was straining to look up...

I think this will be interesting, but I'd go with Tyson to win. Just because, out of the 32 KO's that Kevin McBride has had, he has not beat anyone of great skill.

He's only getting 75k for the fight as well....it would take more than that to get me in the ring with Iron Mike!</font>

I missed it, had exams this week, so most of last week was spent studying. Glad to hear that Hatton won though. Anyone got a torrent link to the fight?
Edit~Tyson encouraging Tszyu to keep fighting. Ugh.

[ 06-10-2005, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]

Not sure. But, HE IS Mike Tyson, with a 50-5 and 44 KOs record. Going up against a bigger, yet slower, 32-4 and under 30 KOs record having young pup!
Let's see, Mike walks with millions, win or lose, the other guy walks with under 75k, win or lose.
In stats, Iron Mike has 55 fights with 44 KOs or 80%. McBride has 36 fights with 27 KOs, or 75%!

Your Right! Just who does he think he is?

McBride is a bum tailor made for Tyson. Quoted from ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2081018

For any boxing fans, this will be a far superior card. Cotto is one of my favorite young fighters to watch.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2082237

Tyson:
1)He's fighting over 230: He's lost 2 of his 3 fights while fighting over 230.
2)He's old.
3)He doesn't have alot of heart: Against Williams, Holyfield, Lewis, hell even agaisnt Douglas he sucked, and he was in his prime. Also, not he's not fighting in front of a supportive audience.
4)Mcbride is huge: 270 and 6'5, against Tyson's 5'11 and 233. Mcbride is larger then ANYONE Tyson has faced, including Williams and Lewis.

Tyson is going down.

[ 06-10-2005, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]

Tyson:
1)He's fighting over 230: He's lost 2 of his 3 fights while fighting over 230.
2)He's old.
3)He doesn't have alot of heart: Against Williams, Holyfield, Lewis, hell even agaisnt Douglas he sucked, and he was in his prime. Also, not he's not fighting in front of a supportive audience.
4)Mcbride is huge: 270 and 6'5, against Tyson's 5'11 and 233. Mcbride is larger then ANYONE Tyson has faced, including Williams and Lewis.

Tyson is going down. </font>[/QUOTE]In for some side betting?
1. Tyson is still 30 some odd million in debt.
2. He has never lost to a nobody.
3. He doesn't need heart, he needs money.
4. Huge also means SLOW. He'll get a swing or two in, to every three or four landed blows from "THE CHAMP", who by the way is over $30 mil in debt.
5. Back to 3, DC is like "his adopted hometown" re-read your own link. He will be in a very supportive atmosphere, and he will walk away on his own two feet! He needs a couple more, then he can peddle his wares on QVC, or Wal-Mart, for his pocket change.

1) So? He's going to get the money anyway, win or lose.
2)Buster Douglas was, and for the most part, still is a noboy.
3)Joe Louis needed money, and still had his ass handed to him.
4) By that logic, Tyson should kick Vitali Klitcho's ass.
5)True, true.

[ 06-10-2005, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]

<font color="cyan">I say Tyson will own him.

He gets far more money from winning than losing, because of the bonuses.

Plus, if he wins, gives him the opportunity for a bigger fight, equalling more money.

True, Mcbride is HUGE compared to Tyson, but when you listen to other boxers talk about Tyson, they say he has the hardest punch in the boxing world. He only needs to land one and he's won.

Think about it, fair enough, a tall heavy person's punch will hurt, due to the leverage, therefore equalling high force. But, a short stocky person with all their strength concentrated will pack a better punch...just my opinion.

Tyson will win!</font>

No, they don't. Tyson in his prime MAYBE, but now? A washed up Tyson who's last fight ended in a 3 round TKO?

Let's compare what PPV says about tyson:
» Explosive punching power- Maybe, but he's old, and it all goes downhill from 35.
» Excellent head movement- I'll give him that.
» Fast hands- Won't help against long reach.
» Crowd-pleasing style- Useless
» Intimidation- Mcbride has been... less then respectfull to him, he already thinks he's going for a KO.
» Conditioning- Again, he's to DAMN OLD.
Also, Tyson was given excellent odds on his last 2 fights. Guess how they ended. Anyway, the way I see Mcbride winning is via his reach, otherwise, Tyson will destroy him.

<font color="cyan">No, I admit he's not in his prime.

But, with age, you do not lose your strength so much..only your speed and your reactions.

I bet, when he trains properly, he can still hit as hard as 10 years ago.

Tyson to win!</font>

Degrader - McBride lost to a guy who was on a 1-17 streak. He was that guy's only win! He is slow, and if you don't have a jab to work with, a long reach doesn't help, it hurts you. All Tyson would have to do is get inside the longer reach and McBride could no longer extend for full power.

Punching power is (almost) always the last thing a fighter loses. Tyson hasn't lost that yet. He is a young 39 by boxing standards - he spent what should have been grueling boxing years inside of a prison. Age is not a big factor for Tyson yet, it's his head. The guy has not wanted to be a fighter for some time, but puts on a good show to try to sell tickets. If he really prepares and wants to fight, he'll kill McBride. Personally, I think Tyson is cowardly now that his intimidation factor is gone. He could lose. I just don't think he will.

Oh yeah - Peter McNeely, who reminds many of McBride, was also disrepectful to Tyson in the prefight. Than lasted 89 seconds.

Buster Douglas was a special circumstance alltogether. If you look it up, he should have been a champ. He was whipping Tony Tucker (the last guy Tyson beat to unify the titles in his prime) for the IBF title, then quit. He was gutless. Then his mother died, some other stuff happened that I can't recall, and he dedicated the fight to getting past all that. And he always had a great jab, which is what he peppered Tyson with in order to land the big shots later on. McBride just doesn't seem to have that in his arsenal.

If you still believe that Boxing is a random outcome than I have some waterfront property in Manitoba I'd like to sell you...

It's all about the promoters and how much money they can make off of each fighter.

Can you say FIXED? :D

<font color="cyan">No, it's not fixed. It's just angled.

They promote and spin it to make money. The fight itself, will not be fixed. A fixed boxing match, is far too easy to tell.</font>

Oh well, at least tonight should be a good show. I'm reminded of the great Ken Norton, the guy whom nobody thought had a chance in hell of beating Ali. While Mcbride is no Norton, he does have a good chance if he's learned to jab.

I don't know much about boxing, nut I know this Tyson's opponent better wear some sort of ear-guard.... [img]smile.gif[/img]

*points to last page....this has been mentioned twice already.

I think Tyson has this. He needs to have it, so he will.

In theory you had a 50% chance there Ross. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] Tyson did not NEED it, his managers did. ;)

Tyson is now back in possesion of his well kicked arse (minus respect) :(

<font color="cyan">What did I tell you?

None of you listend to me, McBride all the way. Told ya he'd kill Tyson.

Tyson didn't have the heart, which he admitted in the interview.

Ya all should of listened to me!!!

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Damn I was going to watch this, but it showed on closed sports station here (all scrambled), and we don't have it this month... think it's the first time in a year or so I have sit down to watch tv and I couldn't... :rolleyes:

Ended up watching Jay Leno reruns instead... [img]smile.gif[/img]

But I guess Tyson is finished then... ?

Yep, and a damn shame, he looked about to cry in that interview.

And an article on it here for those who missed the fight/interview.

<font color="cyan">Atta boy Tyson!

He was winning as well when he threw in the towel...he still collected 2.75m though!</font>

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