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Hivetyrant 02-16-2005 09:22 AM

Grrr, once again, they blame the videogame [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]
Quote:

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. Feb 15, 2005 — A lawsuit claims the video game "Grand Theft Auto" led a teenager to shoot two police officers and a dispatcher to death in 2003, mirroring violent acts depicted in the popular game.

The suit announced Tuesday seeks damages from the game's manufacturers and two stores that allegedly sold it to Devin Thompson, now 18.

An attorney for relatives of two of the victims said Thompson, who is charged with murder, had played the video game repeatedly.

Thompson is accused of killing the three men in June 2003 after being brought to the Fayette police station on suspicion of driving a stolen car. Thompson allegedly grabbed one of the officer's guns, shot him and the other two, then fled in a patrol car.

The suit alleges Thompson purchased "Grand Theft Auto III" at the Gamestop in Jasper and "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" at the Jasper Wal-Mart when he was under 17. The games, which depict police killings and other acts of violence, are rated M, meaning they are appropriate for those 17 or older.

"What has happened in Alabama is that four companies participated in the training of Devin … to kill three men," attorney Jack Thompson told The Tuscaloosa News, which reported the suit's filing.

Named in the suit are Wal-Mart Stores and Gamestop along with Take-Two Interactive Software, the manufacturer of the games, and Sony Computer Entertainment, the maker of the PlayStation 2.

Messages left for officials of three of the companies were not immediately returned. There was no answer at the listing for Gamestop in Grapevine, Texas.

At a December hearing, authorities said Devin Thompson, when he was apprehended, told officers, "Life is a video game. You've got to die sometime."
[ 02-16-2005, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: Hivetyrant ]

Legolas 02-16-2005 09:30 AM

I wonder how they plan to win that case.

Bungleau 02-16-2005 09:32 AM

'Course, it's not his fault... it never is.

Betcha he was listening to Metallica, too. Didn't they get blamed for someone listening to their music?

Hivetyrant 02-16-2005 09:41 AM

Them and Maryln Manson...
Pretty stupid if you ask me, they just want someone to sue.

Xen 02-16-2005 09:46 AM

It's always the videogame's fault. How pathetic. They can't find a good reason so they blame the game.

Callum 02-16-2005 09:54 AM

He was probably an avid DnD guy as well. And had at least one black t-shirt. G**damn devil-worshippers!

[ 02-16-2005, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

Vaskez 02-16-2005 10:04 AM

LOL, the claim that it's the video game's fault is laughable. Where were the parents and/or social services? Blame them if you wanna blame someone other than the actual criminal. Anyone stupid enough to take a video game that seriously should be locked up anyway!

Jorath Calar 02-16-2005 10:33 AM

Yes but your honor this game was sold to 3 million other people and they have not killed one human being... maybe there is something wrong with this boy...?"


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TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 10:43 AM

From what he said, "Life is a video game" i'd say he did get the idea from the game. I suspect he is just very, very weak minded. Didn't something similar happen with the game Manhunt? I think it is possible that very, very gullable people are influenced by video games. It certainly does with wrestling, i remember hearing a story of a boy killing his brother by performing a wrestling move on him, throwing him through a glass table becuase they fell out. If that doesn't show a weak minded person doing something seen done by something popular, i don't know what else to say.

@ Callum - Your evil-worshippers and black t-shirt comment - Not everyone who wears black and plays DnD is evil. When writing this message, i had a DnD book open, wearing nothing but black, and had an inverted cross around my neck - Am i not perfectly nice? Excuse my big headed comment [img]tongue.gif[/img] But i'm just saying, not al evil-worshippers are so bad, although i don't worship evil, i just think you're being sterio typical, people who dress like me immediatly worship evil? Nah.

johnny 02-16-2005 11:04 AM

That's it, i'm gonna sue the parents for raising a moron.

TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 11:08 AM

That's better [img]tongue.gif[/img]

You can't sue him for being stupid and weak minded, people are born like that, they can't help it. It's like a mental condition IMO, but alot of people would still sue. It's a problem, and he could have helped it, so i suppose it IS his fault in that sence, but it's not his fault that he was born retarded.

StigTC 02-16-2005 11:25 AM

I say we ban the legal system, because lawsuits like that makes me want to hurt people...

Memnoch 02-16-2005 11:38 AM

The old correlation-causality equation... :rolleyes:

philip 02-16-2005 11:53 AM

I'm curious do video game sellers actually look at the recommended age? Or is there a law or something they should do that. Sounds like just the same as those ugly parental advisory stickers they stick on every CD nowadays. But this is just stupid.

Gangrell 02-16-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheGodThatFailed:
i just think you're being sterio typical, people who dress like me immediatly worship evil?
Sarcasm - Look it up.

Quote:

"Life is a video game, you have to die sometime."
This wasn't enough of a hint to show he's insane? It doesn't matter how 'weak' minded someone is, people know better than to kill someone else. I played video games when I was in diapers, being weak minded as you are at that age, played Mario, but you don't see me strapping torch canisters to my arms so I can shoot fireballs.

TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 12:14 PM

Hmm, i suppose Gangrell. I just get worked up when people make asumptions like that, i'm certanly no satanist, but i still wear the crosses, simply becuase i like them. I take it close to my heart, so i guess that's why i jumped to a quick desicion. Sorry if i seemed agressive or something...

Gangrell 02-16-2005 12:25 PM

Don't worry about it, I still know people that label me a nerd because I play D&D, everyone has their stereotypes. Callum was just poking fun at that like Bungleau was with Metallica, the point is everyone blames or points the finger at something other than the person responsible.

TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 12:36 PM

I see. Well, sorry again, i'll think about it before posting next time [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Vaskez 02-16-2005 01:11 PM

LOL I can't believe Callum's comment was taken seriously. I don't know what's more laughable: that or the lawsuit ;)

Also, wearing inverted crosses? Plllleeease... Fair enough if you just like the dangly thing around your neck, but if you take it at all seriously then either a) you are evil or more likely b) you're some silly kid who thinks it's cool to be "bad".

[ 02-16-2005, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: Vaskez ]

Gangrell 02-16-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vaskez:
b) you're some silly kid who thinks it's cool to be "bad".
The same could be said about you Vask, those sunglasses never seem to leave your face. What are you hiding, hmmm? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 02-16-2005, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Gangrell ]

Vaskez 02-16-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Vaskez:
b) you're some silly kid who thinks it's cool to be "bad".

The same could be said about you Vask, those sunglasses never seem to leave your face. What are you hiding, hmmm? [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOL! I hardly ever wear sunglasses (I'm too busy wearing normal glasses). I just deliberatly selected photos when I was wearing glasses to remain slightly anonymous. And on the hikes yeah I wore glasses otherwise the glare from the snow is too much.

Also, I think there's a slight difference between sunglasses and symbols of the satanic church. It is my personal opinion that anyone wishing to associate themselves with the incarnation of evil in any way is either a kid (too young/stupid to understand) or is a major low-life since human nature is too be good in order to make people happy while they are for being evil - i.e. they suck big time as human beings. I certainly hope no one is like that here.

TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 01:31 PM

No, i don't think it's cool to be bad, and i'm not evil. I like the inverted cross, becuase it shows i'm different, it shows individuality. I take comments like that seriosly, becuase i get alot of stick for those kind of things at school, and from friends, they don't understand - i'm no satanist. I wear the cross, for the reasons above, and plus it has a perdy design on it [img]tongue.gif[/img] Now you, obveously do think it's cool to be a git or something, i'd appologised for what i said, and you went and braught it back up. So, you seem to me, to be the kind of person who thinks it's cool to be bad, now please, just let it rest, and move on.

John D Harris 02-16-2005 01:59 PM

I giv'em a 75% chance of winning the case, Alabama ain't the sue capital of the USA for nut'n. Folks shouldn't be surprised at this at all, "Hale" we got people that blame Big Oil for things, yet they use the products Big Oil sells. Same for Big Tobacco, Mircosoft, WalMart, (incert business of choice here).

These folks have lost a loved-one and want somebody to pay, problem is the person responsible for their lost can't pay. Now there is going to be a jury made up of people that will "feel" sorry for the victims families and their loss. What chance does a big business have against that after all they have money so they should spread it around, in the minds of MOST people. If anybody doubts my asessment(sp?) of that, just con-tem-plate (southern for think) on what you hear people say about rich and taxes, or Big Business, (incert scapegoat of choice here). Then ask yourself why should it be any differant just because it's about a game that you happen to like vs. about something you don't like or agree with, like cigarettes?

LEST, anybody think I'm saying the game is the reason, I'm going to say "THE GAME IS NOT AT FAULT". The fault lies with a sack of horse manure human, that felt it was ok to kill for what ever reason his punkin' mind could justify. With any luck he will be ridin' OLE YELLAR (Alabama's Electric chair) before he dies of old age in prison.

Lox 02-16-2005 02:34 PM

I think it's funny that they included Sony as a defendant since the kid played the game on his PS2. I want to sue Sony too, because I played Parappa, thought I could dance, and ended up breaking my ankle.

TheGodThatFailed 02-16-2005 02:42 PM

Hehe, sounds like you've got a case. Need an attorney? *assumes i spelt that wrong* I have no training, but i'm the cheapest you'll find.

Blind_Prophet 02-16-2005 02:49 PM

I guess he forgot the part about respawning

Kakero 02-16-2005 04:50 PM

Another of these lawsuits? Tell me again when they succeeded with the lawsuit.

Chewbacca 02-16-2005 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by philip:
I'm curious do video game sellers actually look at the recommended age? Or is there a law or something they should do that.
Some do. At Gamestop we ID anyone who appears under 17 for rated M games. That is the company's policy, not the law.

Marty4 02-16-2005 05:19 PM

The way I see it, it is the parents fault for failing to recognize that their kid isn't mature or intelligent enough to tell the difference between video games and life. The game is rated M to tell the parents that it is recomended for people over the age of 17. Personally, I am under 17, but I play some M games, since my parents recognize that I can tell the difference. I haven't (so far [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) had the urge to go on a killing spree or anything ;) . In my book, the blame falls on the shoulders of 2 irresponsible parents and thier dumb kid.

Aragorn1 02-16-2005 05:24 PM

If a game makes someone do something like that they are clearly unstable, the game is trigger, not a cause, and if it had not trigger it another thing may have. Its the same with film violence.


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