what is you're position on this drug, are you for it or against it? would you take it at a party if someone gave it to you??? give me your pro's and con's.

I need at least 40 response please. Also if possilbe, can you just give me your sex and age.

THANKS A BUNCH IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS SURVEY.

hmm, i'm actually for it, since it helps people who've got stressful lives, and things that they don't want to remeber, but that's basically a medical use, wether i'd take it or not if given at a party, would strongly have to do with my mood at the moment,

Male, and 16

17 Male

Wouldn't take it.
I'm against it.

An unneccesary drug IMO, stick to good old alcohol. :D

19 male. I wouldn't take it and I am against it. It is better than heroine, but still bad.

[ 12-12-2004, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: dplax ]

Against it, don't want it. Screw illegal drugs. Male 13.


"Hey man... you want some E?"
"... Sorry, no thanks."
"What? No way, everyone likes E!"
"Don't need it, I'm on A,B,C,D, AND E. Beat that!"

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Taken it. For it.

Male, 22.

Might try it some day, but not too keen - especially since through the years there's sometimes been a chance of getting bad pills.
My position is different from the one of heroin - for one the effects of XTC sound more pleasant and the addiction symptoms nowhere near as bad as those of heroin. But again, I'm not exactly dying to try it, am not in a hurry and definitely care nothing about peer pressure and such things.

Edit: as in other thread, female, 24.

[ 12-12-2004, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Not for it at all.

Been down the road paved with drugs in the past and I will not go there again for a "momentary" high.

I'd rather enjoy life free from drugs. ;)

Female 35

Neutral, since never tried it and haven't heard anything bad about it, except the very rare overdose cases, or sudden deaths, which are of course, terrible. As for whether, I'd take it or not, a very small chance if I was drunk enough, but unlikely. I'll stick to the chronic, if anything :D :D

I would never take it. I'm not for telling others what to do, but not in favor of it either. The first person to die in my graduating class died after mixing it with alcohol (and possibly something else) 2 and a half years ago. This was most likely done intentionally.


male, 23

[Edit] Vaskez...if ya take ex, don't drink (not that I'm telling you what to do lol)

[ 12-12-2004, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Lucern ]

Nope, and I'm against it, as well.
Again, male, 18.

Haven't taken it but i don't care if people take it their choice cause I might if i had some.

18 male

And i'll just chill with vaskez over it anyday.

ok, it's not like I'm ever gonna take it really

Puck no! ..and I'm older than everybody who posted so far. :D

I figured it was more of an expression than literally planning to drink and take it. I just felt I should point out again for anyone who might ever take it, that it doesn't mix with alcohol AFAIK. Sorry to pick on your post for that.

Have taken it, won't do it again... and would tell everybody who is considering taking it... to not.

Me and my friend met these 2 girls at a rave party... it was in 1996. After dancing and drinking for a while I felt terrible and wnated to go home, one of the girls gave me 2 pills and told me to take them so I'd feel better, I took them, swallowed them down with a pint of beer... [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] then asked what they were... XTC she answered... and after a while they kicked in... after that I don't remember much, except dancing drinking and ... (ehmmm pardon my french) screwing, but when I woke up... 3 days later I was told I had been sleeping for almost 20 hours... and that I had been a wake for almost 2 days after taking the pills. And was sick for another 4 days, throwing up a lot and when ever I fell asleep, I'd get really strange dreams and wake up in a pool of sweat...
Needless to say I never tried it again... and won't.

BTW I'm 29yrs old male... [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 12-12-2004, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Jorath Calar ]

Nope, not interested. Have a friend who was hooked on it once. Bad news. :(

Female, over 40

Had it during my teenage years, had a bad turn on it.

Agaist it

Male 24.

Hell no for the same reason as in the other post.

male 14

I'm really happy to see the younger group being on the "no" side. You are the targets for this stuff, not so much the 30+ crowd.

Stay true to your beliefs and you'll get far more respect than giving in. :D

Back in my RCMP days, I remember a young girl about 17 who took X. Figured she could fly and jumped off of a 16 story balcony.

Seen way to many people OD, and way to much "enhanced" X.

If you want to end up dead, then go ahead. Just think about the other people in your life first.

Taken plenty of XTC over the years, the REAL XTC, not to be confused with the crap that passes for XTC nowadays. Today you shouldn't be surprised if your pills contain elephant tranquilizers, or nothing else but amphetamine. That's why you can have your XTC tested at the entrance of some of the main party events here in the Netherlands, and i strongly advice everyone to do so, if you don't wanna drop dead in the middle of the dancefloor. There's stuff outthere that kills young healthy people, can't take any chances anymore.

In the days when XTC still did what it is supposed to do (which is make you feel extremely happy and good inside, and horny as well since it originally is a lust enhancing drug), i sold it on parties all over the Netherlands. Back in those days you could charge people 50 Guilders for just one pill, instead of the handfull of pills you get for 5 €, and you would be high ALL NIGHT LONG of just one pill. Nowadays people swallow them like candy, and it doesn't even have the effect it should have.

I've had my fair share of real XTC, but immediately put a stop to it once the sleezy pushers took over. I still enjoy the feeling of being high, but it's not worth dying for. What's on the market today ISN'T XTC, and whatever it is, i don't want that crap in my body.

Never tried it, don't plan too. But I am not against it. If someone wants to take it, let them. Pretty much my opinion on most drugs. I know where to get it relatively clean, as I do with many things. Had offers of it on the cheap (and being vouched as clean) but passsed it up.

Male, 19.

Against it. It's illegal, but more importantly, as johnny said you don't know what's in it, and I've heard bad things about it. I'm clean, and I intend to stay that way. I'd turn it down, and have before.

Male, 23.

That's why i think it's good you can have your pills examined overhere. You can come up with all kinds of laws to scare people, but they will take em regardless. And here they have at least a chance to find out what exactly they just bought. If only all people were smart enough to actually use that opportunity, then we wouldn't hear how one or two teenagers were found dead on a party in the news all the time.

Well I have never tried and at my point in my life I would never take it. When I was younger it was just the bud and beer.

Now a days you have no clue what you are taking. But lets say that it is good stuff and you want to try it there is not much I can do to stop you. I would just hope that you have anough sense not to take it. The first fact that it is illegal. And the next is that it could kill you.

Ecstasy has an upside, insofar as it can be used clinically in the treatment of some mental disorders. However, much of what is available is dangerous, and it can easily be abused to the point of personal injury. As always, knowledge and discipline are critical to recreational use of any drug.
I wouldn't use what's available today.
Male 38

Against it. I've tried my share of drugs in the past, and most haven't done much for me. Now, that could be because I haven't had enough, or because it takes a lot to have an impact on me. From my experiences with alcohol, a lot is required. In fact, I never found my limit for drinking in college (but I sure as heck did look for it).

My family has lots of good stories about who lost what, and who did what, while under the influence. I have no interest in becoming another chapter in the book.

Male, 38.

I wouldn't take it at all, although I recognise that it is not as bad as some other drugs available. Like some have said, the risk with taking any drug is that it is not pure, but as well as that, you can't know exactly what your body can take so I wouldn't take the risk.

Re not drinking, that is so true. I've heard that one thing that is critical when taking ecstasy is drinking lots of water because it dehydrates you, which of course, alcohol will exacerbate. Many clubs have stopped making water available for free, even making taps in bathrooms only hot so people can't drink water from there, to make people buy bottled water. Which is really bad considering how much drug use goes on in clubs.

Female, 23

I've never tried ecstasy, but I wouldn't rule it out on principle. From what I have gathered, so long as the pill is "good" and you don't drink while taking it, you're pretty much okay, provided it's just the one time or taken very infrequently. I use alcohol and marijuana so I'm not against stimulants, but I wouldn't make use of anything overly potent, which I wouldn't consider ecstasy to be. Other drugs, such as heroin (see other thread) are a different story, though.

Male, 20.

Have had it; Am for it.

Now, I wouldn't recommend buying it off of Pancho Sanchez in Acapulco, but with a reputable supplier it's a fine thing.

Male, 21

It's illegal here but people still sell it.

There's one powerful and famous drug which called Earthquake (or is it Hysteria?) where upon taking it you'll unable to control yourself from shaking for 8 hours or so. People use it when they go to nightclub to " loosen up " themself.

In the morning when you wake up you can't remember what happened and you feel very very tired plus aching all over body. Oh, you also will feel very very thirsty and no matter how many glass of water you drink you still feel thristy.

I have quite a few friends who take it, and they all have nothing but praise for it. They all do drink and take it though... One of them researched it extensively (he says) before taking it, and said that it was fine with alcohol, and was less harmful than weed. I'm not planning on trying it, and I don't think I will, but who knows... Maybe in college...

So I'm not against it, just not going to take it myself...

Male, 16

Yep, it IS harmless while drinking alcohol, assuming you have the real deal. If you have something different, and you're not even sure what it because you didn't have it tested, then you're gambling with your nuts.

It also doesn't wipe out your memory, make you thirsty, or sleep for days afterwards. These are all side effects of other drugs that have absolutely nothing to do with XTC.

Better late than never...i'm 38/male. :D

Ah, so he was right... Of course, I have no clue how high quality it is here... probably not great ;)

What with the death penalty and all...

Nope. It's a drug. To me that means it can potentially cause addiction. I don't want to get addicted on anything.

I don't care if other people use it. Not my problem.

Male, 15

I don't do any drugs. I've heard an expert from a clinic about it and the stuff isn't good for you. I don't want to get addicted. If I'm at a party I won't take it and depending on how secure I feel I'll stay or leave. I'll just check more if nobody tries to put it into something I eat or drink though (not that I'd drink a lot at those parties, want to be clear and alert then)

And what makes him/her an expert ? His/her education, or firsthand experience ? I realise that it isn't meant to be consumed regularly like food, but it doesn't damage your health in any way, those are all stories to scare people away from it. They'd be doing a much better job if they educate teenagers about the pros and cons of the drug, instead of just telling them "it's bad mkaaay". History shows that if you tell people not to do or use something, they do exactly the opposite.

Don't do drugs, no intention of using them in the future. Addictive and potentially fatal. Against.

Male 15

[ 12-13-2004, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: Blunderbuss ]

I wouldn't recommend it mate - I used it for a few years when I was in my party phase, and it's not exactly healthy for you, no matter what anyone says. You do build a psychological dependency on it, even if physically you won't go through major withdrawal like if you did speed, coke or even pot, you won't want to go out unless you're off your face on pills. The minute you go clubbing you'll be looking for it - you won't be able to have a good time without it. There's psych withdrawal rather than physical. Plus it does have side effects, like killing off a lot of your serotonin reuptake inhibitors and making your hands shake. Not to mention it's expensive. Not to mention you go through Terrible Tuesday (where you can't sleep till Tuesday if you take it on the weekend). And these days you probably don't know if you're taking e or if you're taking amphetamine. Too much whizz and you can turn into a nervous wreck.

What people here have said is true - pure MDMA has clinical applications when used in a controlled environment. You've got buckleys of finding pure MDMA these days. Most e these days will have about 30% speed (to give the energy), 20% acid (to give you the trippy feeling) and about 50% glucose/another binding agent/washing powder. I'm not sure what kind of e you did in Holland Johnny, but alcs and e don't mix, mainly because one is a stimulant and the other a depressant. It's not chemically harmful (unless the two mix and create a cocktail of something your body could be allergic to - it can happen) but there's the risk you end up drinking 20 bottles of Smirnoff Ice in a few hours because your body is making you think you can. Then when your e wears off all that alcohol hits you. Best to stick to water or Gatorade.

My personal view is that you shouldn't try it, but people are people, and people are curious. If you do decide to try it, then for Gods sake be informed about what you do, and make sure you know what you're doing and what you're ingesting. Drink lots of water, but not too much that you make your brain swell, and make sure there's someone looking out for the group of you.

I did this stuff every weekend for four years. I look back on those days now and think about all the money I wasted, all the Sunday mornings, all the Mondays I spent recovering, it's not worth it. As Johnny said, getting high can be great when you do it the first time, but it gets passe very quickly, and as your tolerance grows you will never EVER get that initial high that you got in the first few weeks of use. You can chase it forever and you won't get it back.

I would also be careful about glorifying drug use on this thread, or making it seem "cool". It's no cooler than smoking or drinking is. Curiosity is fine and normal, and I'd rather you ask questions now rather than later, when you're into it - but let's be careful how we talk about it - just a precaution. [img]smile.gif[/img]

If you would like insights from a previous discussion about this a couple of years ago, it is here. I suggest you read and educate yourself. I'll repost what I posted then (cut and paste):

EDIT: Oh, and male, 31. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 12-13-2004, 12:24 PM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]