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Watch it. and does anyone know the name of that song? [ 12-06-2004, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Gxc ] |
I get it and yet I don't find that funny.
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I think its awesome that he did something back. [ 12-06-2004, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Gxc ] |
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I think its awesome that he did something back. </font>[/QUOTE]Violence never solves anything, it tends to make matters worse. sadly though, I agree the kids had every right to defend himself, he should have gone about it differently :( |
Violence doesn't solve anything, but I'm sure the kid was tired of it. I see kids get picked on at school allt he times and it disgusts me. I think it was pretty cool that the guy decided to make a stand, but I think he did it in a negative way that may get them off his back or may just get him in more trouble. I feel sorry for him and I don't think the video is funny.
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[ 12-06-2004, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: SomeGuy ] |
Humph, tough call... I hate violence hence why I don't watch hockey. But in this case I think it was better than not doing anything. A kid that would have done nothing would most likely have been a suicide case.
[ 12-10-2004, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: Variol (Farseer) Elmwood ] |
Well the bully had it coming in my opinion. Better sock someone in the face instead of just walking by. And what were other options? Tell a teacher? Sure the bully would be caught and screwed but word would go around the school who squealed on him. And maybe some of the bully's friends wants to get some pay back.
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but yeah. [ 12-06-2004, 10:22 PM: Message edited by: Gxc ] |
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Only thing worse is starting a thread about something you think is funny, and having a bunch of people wreck it by turning it serious [img]tongue.gif[/img] Not that something like THAT ever happens around here... For the record, I support little guys defending themselves, and advocate for alternatives to violence. I'm reminded of a bit from Road House, with Patrick Swayze: "I want you to be nice. Someone causes problems, you walk him to the door. You be nice. He won't go, someone else will help you. You both be nice. I want you to be nice... until it's time NOT to be nice." "How will we know when it's time?" "I will tell you when it's time." |
As a fat kid I had that happen to me a lot.
I took a stand and belted the living crap out of the guy that did it to me. The guy and his friends never bothered me again. Im not saying that violence is the answer but kids get away with so much now days its good to see some one stand up for them selves and give it back to bullies. Bullies now days have so much power in the school because the teachers have no power over them. Teachers at school here in australia have almost no powers when it comes to controlling bad students. So its good to see a student getting some back. Example. This teacfher went out of the class room to take a call. While he was out a troublemaker kid in the class started hitting other students with a padded bat. when the teacher came back into the room the students told him what happened. So the teacher stood up the student. Got all the kids that he hit up as well and they all got one hit on the bad student with the padded bat. This teacher is now being dragged through court (its all over now) by the boys mother. The teacher won the case. |
Agreeing with Slythe - The "bully" had it coming. Whether it's repulsive or not, in most cases such as this, violence actually *is* one of the solutions.
Most of the times, "bullying" in schools lasts day by day in school. Basically, a "weak willed person" is reminded of his weakness every day and that can just depress the s**t out of him/her. If the "victim" beats the crap out of his "bully," it mostly creates fear and respect for him. The bully would stop the harassment, the victim would get a better self-esteem, they'd both learn a lesson and move on. Shortly put, a broken bone or two would cause less pain than a full year of bullying. In my humble opinion, of course. |
Well Bungi boy, I'm not originally Canadian, I'm German, so it's Soccer for me. And quite Frankly, anybody who sees a person get pushed in the face and finds humour in it probably needs some professional help. Just here in the local news we hear about teen suicide too often. I've sure it's the same in many areas.
Oh, and my brother just got pushed in the face by a guy 3 weeks ago. Pushed the 2 front teeth through his lip and knocked them out. He didn't find it funny.. |
Violence IS the answer.
Strangely enough I hate violence, conflict, fighting, etc. But, it seems to be the only stimulus that humans really respond to. I wish this wasn't the case, unfortunately as I've mentioned before, I believe the human race is one of the universe's greatest mistakes. Stupid, glorified hairless apes who live to throw rocks and stuff at each other, the only way you get them to stop, throw rocks back at them. Boy, we've come a LONG way. :rolleyes: [ 12-08-2004, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Sigmar ] |
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The simple truth is that we are still very primal. We're pretty low on the evolutionary scale. I think we benefit from the luxuries we have because of a very small number of people who are a bit higher on the scale than the rest of us! </font> Edit: looks pretty in pink! [ 12-08-2004, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: Variol (Farseer) Elmwood ] |
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Humanity likes to think its more important than it actually is. How did Megatron put it... "What the Hell does your kind know about evolution? You pathetic bags of flesh...wandering around this rock...thinking you're in control...waiting for the next Ice Age to wipe you out. It's going to be a pleasure speeding up the process." In fact here's Megatron's view on Humanity: "...Look at how they act when pushed to the edge...when death hovers over them. Watch how they kick and claw at each other, worried about only themselves. they're not like us Prime...they've no fight in them. You despise me for my cruelty...my brutality...my lack of compassion. I assure you Prime, these humans are far worse.The goodness you see in them...the virtues you praise...they don't exist! You fight for what you want them to be, never seeing them for what they really are. Join me, forget the humans, they're worthless." Much more effective with the complimentary images of people ignoring people's cries for help, news stations interest with catching the news, and people lootin stores in the middle of the chaos going on. Prime's views: "Over and over you preach that the humans are not like us, well Megatron. You're right. They're not. They've no programming to guide them...no Prime directive to follow...their actions are theirs and theirs alone. You think that makes them weak. That they stand for nothing. I think that makes them strong. They've a battle that you or I can never truly know...a battle to choose. You think I'm blind to the evil choices they've made? I'm not a fool. I see them, but unlike you that's not all I see. I see the few that sacrifice...sacrifice of themselves...to carve out a Prime Directive of their own. No matter the cost. It's for the sacrifices of those few that I fight..." Again, much more effective alongside images of firefighters rescuing people out of collapsing buildings, people helping one another and people sacrificing themelves to save others lives. Prime's point would have been more effective if a human General didn't decide two pages later to Nuke New York city and all it's inhabitants in order to ensure the destruction of ALL the transformers on Earth. |
I'm with Sigmar on this one. I had two "incidents" in grade school. The one, I tried to do the good kid thing and tell a teacher/reason with the bully. Flipping useless. Different case, I started swinging. That stopped the BS real quick.
I'd just like to point out I'm generally a pacifist but like my old man used to say, "don't just take S*** from people. Stand up for yourself." Sound advice, and that's how I live now. Now, I don't go around starting anything like that, but I sure as hell *will* finish it if anyone tries to pull that kind of crap on me or mine. I take a pretty dim view of bullies and such, and ya maybe it's considered vigilante justice or ugly violence in some places, but I tell you if that's all you got, you got to use it (wisely). |
Bully's are mostly people who feel weak themselves and try and prove they are strong by holding power over others.
Best way to deal with them is make them feel small and usless, now punching em in the face will probably do that, but there are other, much more effective and sublte way's. I won't explain how though, not the place.. Funny as hell, wonder if it turned into a fight or just stayed a one hit wonder. |
Well I see nothing wrong with that kid getting clocked. This would be classified as the good old days. Lets face kids have a hard time out there with all these bullies. And sometimes kids need to take action. As long as it stays to fists and the guns can stay out of it. That is my fear kids never have old fashion fights anymore.
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Variol, I forgot to mention above that I haven't watched the video, so I didn't see the activities that took place in it. I certainly don't condone or support violence of the type described in the video, or of what your brother experienced. It is just plain wrong, and I have no issues with that position. My apologies for any misunderstandings and miscommunications along the way.
And apparently I was missing the humour smiley on my "Canadians and hockey" remark. It was there, honest! :D :D :D :D :D |
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Violence - raw, naked force - has solved more issues in the history of mankind than any other methodology. |
Uh, Siggy? You do know that a human wrote those lines of Megatron, right? So yet again, he's human, and must be wrong in his stupidity! [img]tongue.gif[/img] Then again, that makes Prime's point wrong, too. I say we're all stupid, and should live in caves.... Then I wouldn't have to take finals!! :D
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Heh, I just got to watch this one, and I like it! Nice little set-up, there. Just slips his arm out of the strap and clocks him. Too bad I can't do that anymore on terms of honor, or I'd be shot or thrown in prison. :D [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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"Its fun till someone gets hurt then its hillarious"
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On a funny side note I just sent that video to 5 people on my msn, and the first thing 3 of them said was DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME!
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well it's not funny or awesome to me yet the thrower learned his lesson i hope. you show disrespect, then you get it right back at you. too bad its from a fist.
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Megatron IS real. ;) |
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Violence - raw, naked force - has solved more issues in the history of mankind than any other methodology. </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, it seems that the only way to prevent deaths is to cause more deaths. |
Strangely yes.
Funny old world isn't it. |
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