I've been unable to log in here for about a week because I was using Mozilla... I would enter my name and password and it would accept them... and say I needed to log in or register. I finally decided to try on IE and it works... went back to Mozilla and it didn't... :(

I really dislike using IE as I have a huge amount of pop ups and things...

Anyone know what I can do?

[ 10-30-2004, 01:56 AM: Message edited by: Callum ]

<span style="color: lightblue">Get Firefox instead. There isn't much difference, but it may help. If it doesn't, you may want to try Opera, or K-Meleon (google for them if you don't know where to get them).

I'll try that then... Thank you...

I use Firefox on this computer with no problems. The other computer (which I use mostly for surfing and forums) has Netscape 7.2 which also has no problems. I absolutly hate Internet Explorer! Mostly because of pop-ups and that eventually, my home page becomes some XXX site and I can't change it!

Get Firefox. I'm using it now for some time and I love it. It's very simple to use and it looks very nice. (You can change themes too)

yeah, i agree with Xen. firefox is way beter than IE. the tabs thing is great [img]smile.gif[/img]

Im using IE ...with MyIE2 (and it has tabs as well [img]tongue.gif[/img] ). it has a built in popup blocker... but i also have several software protections with me such as zone alarm, norton firewall, avg and norton real time scanner, spyguard, spysweeper and AIPEK (another internet popup killer).

with all of that.. im more than happy to browse around with no worries of any popups and spyware since they get the job done and the builtin robotform is great as well.

anyway..

yeah.. paranoia.. but better be safe than sorry. i got spyware troubles a few weeks back when i was without my pcclin antivirus (the subscription expired) so i was without any protection for 2 days.. whopee... i got in trouble for 2 days and asked for help (seach for my previous thread).

anyway, now i can access several sites that do need IE (for school)

[ 10-30-2004, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Harkoliar ]

wait.. i was just wondering.. isnt mozilla= firefox??

I think it's hard to switch from what you're used to. I started with Netscape and I think Firefox designed at least part of that so it's very familiar.

And for those what (intentional) don't know; Firefox is a group of programmers that constantly improve their program. You can even give ideas and suggestions directly to them.

Almost. Sometimes people refer Mozilla suite (browser+mail client) as "mozilla" whereas Mozilla Firefox as plain "Firefox".

Callum, I think your problem lies in the "cookie" control. Just enter IW's url and set the browser to accept the cookies from this site. If you do not enable cookies for IW, neither Mozilla or Firefox would let you log into this board. By default, IE is set to accepts all cookies, that is why most people do not have any problem logging into sites with IE.

I think they had to drop Mozilla for legal reasons, right?

<font color=cccccc>I'm extremely happy with Firefox.

Hark, how and where did you get this IE2? Is that part of the WinXP SP2 Patch? I agree with your philosophy on over-protecting IE, it's the main source that everything is targeted towards.

Mozilla is the name of the mother 'ship' and there are different programs under that 'brand'. One can research Here and find 'Mozilla' which is a full client; browser, e-mail, news, and some other niceties that one should expect. Firefox is the name of the stand alone browser. 'Thunderbird' is the name of the stand alone e-mail, and this is the name I recall that was challenged, but I have not followed the legalities.</font>

[ 10-30-2004, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Felix The Assassin ]

Nope. All of the Mozilla projects are from www.mozilla.org, which is Mozilla (suite), Mozilla Thunderbird (stand-alone mail client), Mozilla Firefox (stand-alone browser) and also Mozilla Sunbird (stand-alone calendar program, not-so-well known... more buggy than the rest IMO).

The prefix of "Mozilla %program%" is still the official name for all of the above mentioned programs but most people just omit the "Mozilla" out because of the confusion between the Mozilla Suite and Mozilla Firefox.

Additional link:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/

<font color=white>Damn... Felix beat me to it.</font>

[ 10-30-2004, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: Paladin2000 ]

Mozilla, as in the complete suite is really slow compared to stand alone browser firefox so that's why I use firefox.

I'm sure it was "Firebird" that was changed to "Firefox". And yes, I use Thunderbird on this PC for email. Again, Netscape on the older one.

Hang on someone give me a clue here... What's so special about these other browsers? I mean, I've only ever seen IE, what can they do that IE cant?

here is the link to MyIE2
http://www.myie2.com/html_en/home.htm

apparently they just recently renamed it to maxthon... but its still the same. just check it out. its pretty good.

and i use mozilla email which is pretty good as well [img]smile.gif[/img] .

edit: here is my link to maxthon
http://www.maxthon.com/en/index.htm

which is just the same actually

edit2:.. btw.. i forgot to tell you that MYIE2 is like a add-on program for IE. it has all the IE features you have and more.. like i said earlier.. tab browsing is the best. ;)

[ 10-30-2004, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Harkoliar ]

IE security isnt that secure. hackers usually target IE because its a popular browser which many people use. some website targets IE weakness and flaws. some of the other browsers doesnt have these kinds of flaws

of course it has its downsides like some websites need IE to be accessed in the first place because of some special plug-ins like for my school. ah well. its your choice really.

Well here's some things:
-firefox has no activeX
-firefox has configurable java and javascript
-firefox can block loose cookies
-firefox has a built-in popup stopper
-firefox can block outside server cookies
-firefox is free and cross-platform
-firefox is w3c

You are right. "Firebird" was rebranded to "Firefox" and Mozilla Org trademarked it. This is due to the confusion and harassment from a *company which has already trademarked the "firebird" for their products.

* Couldn't recall which company it was.

[ 10-30-2004, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Paladin2000 ]

Sod It, I have norton. IE will do.

<span style="color: lightblue">Beaumanoir (or however you spell that), trust me, Norton is not enough. IE's security flaws can often bypass anti virus and firewall (mostly because of ActiveX, the "Security Zones", and the fact that IE == Windows Explorer == Windows Messenger == Outlook Express == Windows Media Player (!) == bloat). That is not a good thing. And then there's all the spyware, and have you ever been annoyed by a popup? Thought so. And then there's IE's lack of standards compliance... which basically leads to alot of poorly coded sites.

Harkoliar, hackers don't target IE because it's common. Or, atleast, this isn't what contributes to insecurity. As this arcticle points out, if that were true, why is Microsoft IIS a more common target than Apache, which is the most popular web server? No, the target comes for two reasons: 1) It's easy to target due to all of it's security holes, and Microsoft's poor turnover time when they're discovered (one that was rated "Critical" reportedly took 7 MONTHS for MS to fix!); and 2) Because it's Microsoft. Alot of people don't like Microsoft, and so they try to do everything they can to topple Fortress Windows. A good cause (enlighten people), but a bad way of going about it...

Firebird wasn't trademarked, I don't think. It's the name of an open source DBMS (available at SourceForge). So Mozilla changed the browser's name to help prevent confusion. It had another name before that, Phoenix, which was changed for legalities.

Variol, the reason Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox look similar is very simple: they run on the same layout engine, called Gecko. The mozilla project was started by Netscape in 1997, then moved to open source a few years ago, created Gecko, released Mozilla. They eventually decided to split the bloated beast into separate components, which is what Firefox, Camino, Thunderbird, and Sunbird are. Meanwhile, Netscape was redeveloped on Gecko, and because Netscape 6. Also, Nautilus, Epiphany, Konquerer, K-Meleon, and a few others have been developed on Gecko (although Konquerer I believe can render on either Gecko or KHTML). The benefit of Firefox over Netscape is quite simple: Netscape is owned by AOL Time Warner, who like to plug or even integrate alot of their other products (say, AIM) into the browser. They also like to get some form of money for it, and they do that with the spyware in it...

Also, the people at MozillaZine have a very good way of getting around the confusion of Mozilla vs Firefox (vs Camino): Mozilla is usually called "Mozilla Suite", "the Suite", or its developement name "Seamonkey".

I used IE for ever, until I re-installed my computer. I got an insane amount of spyware a few days after reinstalling, and I removed all of it except for 1 component that doesn't seem to affect my computer anyway. I couldn't use IE then, so I got used to Mozilla firefox, and now I think firefox is a million times better than IE. Also, viruses are designed for IE, not firefox.

Well... I spent ALL of yesterday downloading Firefox and Opera and setting the settings and adding my bookmarks...

Annd all I needed to do was click accept all cookies...

How can I set it (Opera) to accept cookies from this site? I had typed in www.ironworksforum.com in the cookie manager... but that didn't work...

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Cookies are always best from grandma; and I say that 'cos I havn't got a clue what they are in cyberworld.

I'm not sure if this would make a difference, just typing www.ironworksforum.com works for me, but instead try:
http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/ultimatebb.php

<span style="color: lightblue">Callum, you may want to consider the following cookie settings (the wording could be different in Mozilla than it is in Firefox) - x means selected:
[x]Accept Cookies
[x]From the originating website only
Keep cookies until: [I close Firefox]

This will allow you to log in to every site you care to mention, but will stop cookies from external servers (which are usually tracking cookies from banner ads). This will stop every bit of spyware you come across in its tracks - and the odd ones that get through are purged as soon as the browser is closed - meaning, they find out less about you than if you had it sitting there for ages. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Your problems with adding bookmarks to Firefox should be a mute point, as it can import them from IE, Opera, and any other Gecko browser. If that fails, you can copy bookmarks.html between the two profile folders (usually %appdata%/mozilla/profiles/randomname and %appdata%/mozilla/firefox/profiles/randomname )

<span style="color: lightblue">This was posted at the MozillaZine forums, and about sums up everything that is wrong with IE:
<span style="color: lightblue">If that isn't good enough for you, I will gladly send you a 22 page PDF of articles that say similar things in longer ways. One of them even comes from Slate, a Microsoft owned site...

July 1st this year I reloaded everything on my computer including changeing my E-Mail address. The reason for this change was that somebody had targeted my computer so that each day I receiver 8 to 10 Trojen Horse Virus and more than 150 ad-ware and spy ware.
10 days after the change it started all over again my Norton Anti-Virus never stopped any of the Virus from comming in back doors and that was the last day I used IE.
On july 10 I loaded the Firefox Browser and the Quintessential Media player. That was the last time I have had any kind of virus or adware or pop-ups or spyware. The firefox browser is 5 to 10 times faster than IE ever was when loading web sites. Ever since July 10 2004 I haven't been dumped from the Ironworks or any other web page. I figure since I have high speed internet it should be high speed and now it is fast, very very fast.
I highly recommend the Firefox browser over IE for both speed and securiety and for just plan ease of use. My other computer has the new Opera 2004 SE browser loaded on it and it has more toys to fool with but isn't half as fast as firefox but just as secure.

GET RID OF IE you will never look back. :D

[ 10-31-2004, 07:44 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]

Well I have finally settled on Firefox... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I really liked Opera... but it kept crashing...

I preferred Mozilla to Firefox, but for some reason, it has started resetting my bookmarks to those I had several months ago every few days... :(

And now it appears that I can't automatically log in to TSR or another forum. Ah well... such is life [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<span style="color: lightblue">If you want to auto-login, you can get Firefox's password manager to remember the passwords. You can also set a "master password" that needs to be entered once a session, if you're worried about how accesable your passwords are. Or, you can set cookies to stay for longer. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I do have Firefox remember my passwords... but with IWs and UFR, when ever I visit the site, I am automatically logged in... when I visit TSR, I have to log in manually... saved passwords or not...

A minor thing... but something I miss ;)

And my cookies are set to stay until they expire...

<span style="color: lightblue">Try fiddling with the cookie settings a bit. Another thing you might do to autologin, is to disallow all cookies, but whitelist the forums. Then set cookies to stay until you delete them (I think you can do that anyway, I do everything through user.js though, and have my menus hidden), or you'll get alot expiring prematurely.

when I disallow all cookies... I can't log in here...

Even if I whitelist www.ironworksforum.com