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THE MESSIAH IS HERE!

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*carries stereo out into the street and starts dancing in celebration*

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[ 10-26-2004, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

Ooooookay....so I'm not understanding at all...you claim it sucks, and then preach in favor of it...I'm so confused...

Hence the [img]tongue.gif[/img] old boy, I was joking, can't be that confusing! :D

This game is perfection :D The greatest game that will, or has ever existed!

...until the third installment... :D

Ah, the ins and outs of smileys...sometimes I get them, other times I jump off of bridges for fun and end up hurting my ankles on bedrock...but I digress...

I do hope so, but we will see, they said the same thing about DOom 3and although it was good, it was still lacking a few things... [img]graemlins/hidesbehindsofa.gif[/img]

That can be greatly argued, especially by me of all people [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Another shooter, another day. yey. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'll reserve the perfection judgement until the 16th.

But I have no doubt that the game is going to be the best of the year by a wide margin.

Doom 3 got GOOD press, but nothing like HL2 is getting, the only people that were hyping D3 as the best of all time were the ID guys. [img]smile.gif[/img] D3 was pretty much what I expected, a retro game built with mind blowing state of the art graphics. I expect the D3 engine will only truly show it's quality when it gets licensed, then stretched and prodded by some hot new game house.

The only HL2 experience I have to go on is Counterstrike:Source, and if that is any indication of the overall quality of the game then it will be a VERY well made game. CS:S has exhibited no problems, good graphics, good multplayer support. With 24 people playing simultaneously the game is smooth as silk, graphics sharp, not a bug to be found anywhere.

I guess there's also the HL2 trailers that are out there...they show a game that has an arguably revolutionary level of interaction.

That can be greatly argued, especially by me of all people [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Me, too. BGII is the greatest game that ever was or will be.

BG for me too. But I still hold opinion that HL2 won't be just another shooter, becuase of the realistic physics.

Halflife 2 will be easily replaced by Halflife 3, but BG is irreplacable - a perfect masterpiece that cannot be recreated without harming its reputation. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Still, HL2 owns. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

i agree, even though havn;'t played h2 XD

anyways shouldn't this thread be in the Rpg and misc games section?

Have you played Baldur's gate 2 recently?

It's a good game, I myself have lost a month or so's worth of hours playing that game :D

but...

The graphics are dated, the interface clunky and ugly compared to what I'm accustomed to now. One of the greatest gaming experiences of my lifetime yes, but time has not been kind to the game IMO (graphics aren't everything, but sometimes it's better to have nostalgic memories of a game than to play the same game later and have those memories brought screaming and kicking into reality :D )

Half-life 2 is an "Edge- 10 out of 10" game. Every previous game to recieve a 10 out of 1o from Edge (Goldeneye, Zelda-Ocarina of time, Gran Turismo, Halo, Soul Calibur, Super Mario 64) is still as playable and appealing today as the day it was released. They were revolutionary, I trust Edge's judgement on the matter and believe that like the other games I just listed I will be playing it for many yeas to come over and over again.

This ain't just another FPS, this is the FPS genre rulebook being torn to pieces by a red paint chipped crowbar. :D

...also yes technically this should be in the other forum, and I apologise. :D

*3d shooter party pooper alert*

Put all the great physics you want in there, if you don't react substantially when you take a bullet, the physics aren't THAT good ;)

It's probably fun though. I generally only play tactical shooters like the Rainbow 6 series. Raven Shield benefitted by using the Unreal 2003 engine (I think), so I can't wait to see the non-half-life games that come out of the engine.

agreed.

I still say there's no such thing as the greatest game, because for that to happen, you gotta satisfy people's tastes in all categories, shooting, fighting, rpg, and so forth. Now, there are revolutionary games such as FF7 and Chrono Trigger, but thats about it [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I do hope so, but we will see, they said the same thing about DOom 3and although it was good, it was still lacking a few things... [img]graemlins/hidesbehindsofa.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Now that's a game that fits this topictitle...Doom 3 definitely sucks. You can describe that game in one short sentence: repetative, and VERY predictable.

Certainly the game of the decade so far, probably will be at the end of it as well. Did anyone else spend a few bucks upgrading their machine for this gem?

<font color=pink>Game of the year? Decade? As far as FPSs go, let me ask one thing:

What about Halo 2? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Unless we're talking PC only here...nvm, lol</font>

[ 10-26-2004, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: Lady Blue03 ]

Halo 2 is going to be somethign very special. Halo 2 will also come out on PC as well.

I agree with LB and T-D-C on this. I think Half-life two is like the appetizer before the main course. Halo 2 will roxxorz your soxxorz!

Isn't Halo 2 is being written so that Consoles can run it?

If so then it'll be too limited to compete graphically with HL2 (my only real complaint with consoles... cool games, crappy graphics... well... maybe not 'crappy', but certainly dated, I retired my Geforce 3 goin on a year ago). Of course the gameplay in Halo was solid (FAR better than Doom3 in that department) so I'm sure it'll be fun, but unless HL2 seriously drops the ball gameplay wise I doubt there's any competition there.

[ 10-26-2004, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

You never know what will happen with the PC version. I've heard that they were developed seperatly (same story line, same engine) but each version will be made for the console or the PC.

Heh, the funny thing is, the xbox has never had a game that has taxed it's full abilities. Not even PS2 has, and from what I hear Halo 2 comes damn near close, so the graphics won't be as bad as you think.

Cool! another shooter! is the sepc req is as advance as Doom 3 ?

Unfortunantly yes, so it will eventually come out on PC, but it will be like the original port, good but a huge system hog.
Microsoft announced quite a while ago, that their Xbox gaming department and their PC gaming department would merge, and im pretty sure that happened, so sorry T-D-C, but unless they re-design the entire game, it is going to look just like the original.
The screen shots arnt "that" impressive either, sure I want this game and it will be cool to hijack vehicles and hold two different weapons, but with the same graphics and similar story....Who knows???

I seriously doubt halo will be anything close to what halflife is. I mean just comparing the trailors is a big contrast, halo looks great, fun, and pretty damn good.
But halflife is something revoloutionary, it looks spectacular, incredibly fun, and amazingly interavtive, it just looks like it will be THE GAME.
The best yet, and just amazing, sure it won't be everyone's favourite, but you can't not admit it's a good game.

Uhhh, what trailors have you been watching???
Im pretty sure I have seen most of them, and although the games looks amazing, the only thin you can do in it that you cant in other games is use the "manipulator" to pick up objects, sure the cars fly around when they are hit, but that can be put into any game.
Dont get me wrong, I know that this will be a great game, but I think peoples expectations are a little high.

And when did you play it?????

When did you play it naysayer. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Your opinion is just as informed as ours! :D

Of course I won't be converting to the Church of Half-life 2 until I myself play the game, but I believe it is going to be something truly grand. Take's all the FPS cliches and flushes them down the toilet apparently, just like the first one did. :D

The first one is only stale today because of all the copies that took "inspiration" from it. :D When in doubt, trust Edge.

So repent, and your soul may still experience life-changing gaming (by that I mean you will spend more time playing a particular game [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

Hmm, point taken.
Ok, ill stop arguing with you Intrepid...Well, on IW's anyway [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Two words: No Multiplayer

<font color=pink>More words: stores are opening at midnight for Halo 2, not HL2 ;) </font>

Hmm, thats about 1,2,3,4.....bah, I cant be bothered counting, you were right LB [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Well... put it this way, My Geforce3 had the same basic hardware as the XBox has, although my card was a bit faster than the XBox version (Ti500). The GF3 is now a full 3 generations old, since then I've upgraded first to a GeforceFX 5700, then to a 6800 GT (I skipped over the GF4's). The old GF3 is basically incapable of running most of the games I'm playing at decent resolution/quality. In fact my 5700 (which is less than a year old) has serious difficulties with some of the newest DX9 games (Far cry, Doom 3, and I expect Half Life 2).

I don't know why the XBox isn't getting pushed hard, but it's not because the games are't capable of it, any of the DX9 games would bring the Xbox to it's knees... I expect you'd be lucky to get 2 frames per second of Far Cry with all the goodies enabled (although Far Cry WILL play on the GF3, quite well, if you turn all the settings down)

Not much point in opening at midnight for HL2... those of us who want it that bad already have it and are just waiting for midnight to get the unlock key. ;) Sadly... Halo 2 only has the antiquated "go to the store and buy the box" distribution method. [img]tongue.gif[/img] It's been years since I've seen as much potential in a title as I'm seeing in HL2. I am excited about the game, as shocking as that is to admit to myself. I certainly wasn't particulary excited about Doom 3, but the trailers for HL2 HAVE been encouraging...

It's not so much the action scenes (although those were very cool) but more the glimpses of gameplay, entering the city, walking around the apartment building while the cops (or whatever they are) were raiding the next door apartment, if those are indicitave of a well developed plot then this game will be one of the great ones.

And as far as muliplayer goes, the Source engine is fully multiplayer capable (see Counterstrike:Source), so I've already read that there are multiplayer tweaks in the works. It's not so much that HL2 ISN'T multiplayer, but rather that they wanted to concentrate on the single player experience and get that perfect (fine by me).

[ 11-02-2004, 11:53 AM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

Its because you still want Multiplayer, localy and online, and even with a broadband connection, if you have extreme graphics, it makes it MUCh harder to have smooth gameplay. There is also a limit to the size of the game, it cant be bigger than the DVD, not only that, but because The Xbox doesnt read files from a hard drive like a computer, the DVD-Rom must cope with huge loads of data anyway.

[ 10-27-2004, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: Hivetyrant ]

Only thing I need half life 2 for is to play counter strike source.

Why should Valve even try and create a Half-life multiplayer if they know that Counterstrike is availiable anyway?

Stores opening at Midnight for Halo 2? Steam is gonna be runnin overtime when Half-life 2 is availiable! :D

Graphic worries? That's the genius of it all, the incredibly innovative thing that Valve did with the game's engine is make it Direct-x reliant, so it will automatically configure itself to be playable on any standard respectable Computer and not just the Top-range machines! :D One of the reasons Edge gave it a 10 apparently, revolutionary thinking :D

Halo 2 is going to be good, damn good, but Half-life 2's the daddy! :D

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They wanted to work on the single player storyline, and they didn't make a multiplayer mode? They did make a Source version of Counterstrike, but they couldn't make a Source version of the original Half-Life multiplayer?
I don't count tweaks or mods as something the game has to offer. Either the game developers offer multiplayer, or they don't. And as Valve doesn't offer any multiplayer for Half-Life 2 this is (IMHO) something sorely missed.

IMO Tweaks and Mods are most of the value of a shooter these days. Once the single player campaign is finished and you get into multiplayer, it's almost always the quality of the mods that decide if the mp game is going to be a success or not.

here's an online analysis I found that I basically agree with: