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Luke84 10-25-2004 12:26 AM

I have just started playing these D&D type games and had some questions i wanted to ask. I have just bought Baldurs Gate II + ToB and played right through the game and had a lot of fun. I was wondering if any of the other games on this forum (Icewind Dale NWN etc..) follow the same storyline or are they completly different games? I ask this because I saw screenshots of Icewind Dale II and noticed it had the same graphics as Baldurs Gate II.

My other question is, what other games that are like Baldurs Gate would you reccomend me buying?

Thanks

Hivetyrant 10-25-2004 12:31 AM

I would suggest buying Planescape-Torment, it kicks ass.
Icewind dale, uses the same engine and graphics but is slighly different in storyline.
NWN is completely different, graphics wise and story wise, but both are very good games(although I havnt really played Icewind dale)

T-D-C 10-25-2004 12:44 AM

Hi Luke,

Welcome to Ironworks!

The good thing about alot of the games that you have mentioned is that they are made by Bioware.

BG2, Icewind Dale 1&2 are all good games.

BG2 is great for its story as you ahve already started seeing. Icewind Dale is more focused on hack n slash as there is no party interaction (you create the entire party yourself)

If you can find it Planescape: Torment is a GREAT RPG. infact I just recently sold my copy of Planescape to the the above poster. Check the bargin bins in your computer stores and you should find it.

NWN is the next step in gaming. It has great graphics and even better Multiplayer capabilities. The NWN Platinum pack has just been released so I recommend that you get that and join us online in our home made mod Escape from Undermountain.

Harkoliar 10-25-2004 05:01 AM

if you want post-nuclear its fallout!!! get fallout 1 and 2!!! its a great game !! :D .

it reminds me of jeramiah which is a new series in the US. do any of you guys know this? its pretty interesting indeed!

Hivetyrant 10-25-2004 06:54 AM

WOW, T-D-C, I never knew that you became a Moderater, damn..I suppose I have to treat you nicely now :( :D

Hivetyrant 10-25-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-D-C:
infact I just recently sold my copy of Planescape to the the above poster.
Yeah, and I still play it [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

*EDIT Woot!! Red Dragon...Go me!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 10-25-2004, 07:15 AM: Message edited by: Hivetyrant ]

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood 10-25-2004 07:40 AM

I strongly recommend Wizardry 8 as well. It's different than the above mentioned games in that "it's better" IMHO! I'm a big fan of turn-based combat and this game gives you that option. It is first person instead of top-down perspective. Graphics are nothing short of excellent. Read some of the posts at the Wizardry 8 forum, here at Ironworks!

T-D-C 10-25-2004 05:32 PM

Quote:

WOW, T-D-C, I never knew that you became a Moderater, damn..I suppose I have to treat you nicely now
Yeah now you have to *insert cartman impression here* RESPECT my authoratha!

Its all cool I'm the same guy I was a week ago. Let me know if you need any help choosing some more games.

BTW you finshed planescape yet ?

[ 10-25-2004, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

Hivetyrant 10-25-2004 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-D-C:
Its all cool I'm the same guy I was a week ago. Let me know if you need any help choosing some more games.

BTW you finshed planescape yet ?

Well, im saving at the momment for Half-Life 2 and Halo 2 but after that I am sure I will be bored. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And no, unfortunantly I havnt finished it, im stuck at the damn Pillar of skulls:P

T-D-C 10-25-2004 11:07 PM

I was going to put some money down on them on the weekend with my works gift vouchers but decided to buy myself a playstation 2 with lots of games.

Maj 10-26-2004 09:39 PM

Have you played BG1? If not I would recomend it, if you can adjust to it from BG2. It has lower graphics, less depth...ect. But still a classic.

Too bad you already played BG2 that is my favorite game and the one I'd recomend first.

I also recomend the Icewind Dale Series, but I'm warning you it isn't as good as the BG Series so don't get your hopes up. Very similar in some ways though.

Ladyzekke 10-26-2004 09:52 PM

I agree BG 1 is also a great game to play if you haven't yet. Planescape Torment I'd say next, classic game. Icewind Dale is good too, but really heavy on the combat and not as much storyline, so I find it hard to compare it to BGII. It personally was just too boring and frustrating for me. NeverWinterNights is a good game, albeit different in that you do not have a party, just your character and a hired NPC that you have very little control over. Diablo II is also a really fun game, not like BGII, but just really fun (again you are a single character, no party, but can hire people, although they die a lot and don't return, unlike in NWNs). Sacred is also like Diablo II, but looks much better, another fun game. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Iron Greasel 10-27-2004 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
im stuck at the damn Pillar of skulls:P
How can you get stuck in there? It seemed straightforwrd enough to me... I'm stuck at Carceri myself (how funny, I'm stuck at the prison plane).

On the actual topic I might add that <font size="4" color="ff0000">BUY PLANESCAPE: TORMENT! BUY IT NOW!</font> After that buy the original Baldur's Gate.

Hivetyrant 10-27-2004 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron Greasel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
im stuck at the damn Pillar of skulls:P

How can you get stuck in there? It seemed straightforwrd enough to me... </font>[/QUOTE]Well, im past the pillar of skulls, but im having alot of trouble beating Bell(I think) the demon guy. I know how to leave the area, but when I try and leave, someone always gets cought and dies.

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
...someone always gets cought and dies.
Note that only one of your characters needs to reach the exit. Run past the fiends with The Nameless One (he has regeneration), and if someone dies, you can always raise him/her/it.

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 08:23 AM

Yeah, but when they die, they drop their stuff, and most of my charcaters have full inventories..
*Damn, I knew I should have sold some crap [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 08:59 AM

BTW, what did you give to the pillar?

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 09:04 AM

Ummm, I told them where the long-named guy was, but thats it. I already knew everything else, and I didnt want to give up my Modron cube :D , or Morte.

RevRuby 10-28-2004 09:10 AM

wow... y'all's scared him off.

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 09:14 AM

How 'bout Annah or Grace then? :D
I gave it 15 hp. I'm kinda Lawful Good at the moment, And I'd like to stay that way. Besides, that demon was nice to me. Okay, he didn't really have a choise but I felt a little bad after taking all his stuff. Besides, I don't need the hp, I'm a mage.

Attalus 10-28-2004 09:21 AM

Heck, give it the Modron Maze. What do you need it for? I don't recall any difficulty at all at that stage of the game, but then I was 30th level when I got there, as were Annah, Grace, Morte, Nordom, and the Gith, whatshisname.

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 09:32 AM

The Modron Cube is funny. And a fast way of travelling. And I fear to imagine what the Pillar would do with it.
Now, as you have already completed this part of the game, please tell me where to find Trias (the deva) in Carceri after Curst has slid over?

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 09:32 AM

I thought you needed it to get the Modron NPC...

Xen 10-28-2004 10:21 AM

Get Planscape: Torment. NOW!

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-D-C:
Check the bargin bins in your computer stores and you should find it.

Lies Lies Lies [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Planescape is like gold-dust now. It sells on white-label (games which are normally between £4.99 and £9.99) a at least £40. And thats WHEN you can find it. It's really rare, and i've never come across a copy :(

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
i've never come across a copy :(
Mwahahaha, well maybe you should have spoken to T-D-C before me :D

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 10:53 AM

*insert manical laughter here*
I got it from a friend for 7€!

Attalus 10-28-2004 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron Greasel:
The Modron Cube is funny. And a fast way of travelling. And I fear to imagine what the Pillar would do with it.
Now, as you have already completed this part of the game, please tell me where to find Trias (the deva) in Carceri after Curst has slid over?

By the time that I got to the Pillar of Skulls, Nordom had been in my party a long, long time and was like 28th level fighter. I killed a lot of monsters in UnderSigil. Trias is chained to a platform in the lower left part of the screen.

Attalus 10-28-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by T-D-C:
Check the bargin bins in your computer stores and you should find it.

Lies Lies Lies [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Planescape is like gold-dust now. It sells on white-label (games which are normally between £4.99 and £9.99) a at least £40. And thats WHEN you can find it. It's really rare, and i've never come across a copy :(
</font>[/QUOTE]You can buy PS:T for $11.95 US here

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron Greasel:
*insert manical laughter here*
I got it from a friend for 7€!

HAHA! Yea well when I rob you!

Then we'll see whose laughing....

[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 11:04 AM

Well, I never went to undersigil, and the only casualty has been The Nameless One who died once in Baator. And I've found Trias once, I'm talking about the second time after you return from Baator.

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Iron Greasel:
*insert manical laughter here*
I got it from a friend for 7€!

HAHA! Yea well when I rob you!

Then we'll see whose laughing....

[img]tongue.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]Probably not you, now he knows who to blame, and youll be the one who is charged [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Do they have computers in Jail? :D

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Iron Greasel:
*insert manical laughter here*
I got it from a friend for 7€!

HAHA! Yea well when I rob you!

Then we'll see whose laughing....

[img]tongue.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]Probably not you, now he knows who to blame, and youll be the one who is charged [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Do they have computers in Jail? :D
</font>[/QUOTE]Pffh no prison can hold me. I'll cast knock on the cell door, send a fireball into the guards quarters and energy blast my way through the wall. Bwahahahaa!

Maybe it'd do me some good to get away from computers actually [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 11:25 AM

Quote:

Pffh no prison can hold me
HA! I'll MAZE you!

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 11:29 AM

*Using His Superior Intelligence Binky Escapes The Maze In 3 and a half seconds and quickly casts imprisonment on Iron Greasel*

Cha'

:D

Hivetyrant 10-28-2004 11:35 AM

*casts timestop...
*Casts ploymorph on Beaumanoir, and turns him into a mustard jelly :D

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
*Using His Superior Intelligence Binky Escapes The Maze In 3 and a half seconds and quickly casts imprisonment on Iron Greasel*

Cha'

:D

HA! again! I had cast mislead while you were in the maze. And as I am wearing my cloak of non-detection, there is nothing you can do.

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 11:38 AM

Uses the Mustard Jelly's 100% elemental and magical resistances to withstand any further magical bombardment and engulfs hivetiyrant, continually pummeling him all the while.

I'm too damn good :D

Iron Greasel 10-28-2004 11:44 AM

*casts monster summon III*
*casts haste*

Yeah? I'm better!

Beaumanoir 10-28-2004 11:46 AM

OH please.

*As the polymorph wears off, casts protection from evil and then casts gate. And watches as your ikkle monsters get munched*

He's after you next [img]tongue.gif[/img]

*Spins round and performs a level 6. 'Kick Hivetyrant In The Shins*


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