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Sir Degrader 10-16-2004 10:40 AM

I cannot recommend this highly enough. I think everyone should download it. It's easy to use, secure, and has a better interface then IE, best of all, its free. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ is the official site for DLing it.

Dreamer128 10-16-2004 10:51 AM

I've been using it for awhile. Great browser [img]smile.gif[/img] I can't tell you how good it was to get rid of all those pop-ups [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Spirits forever 10-16-2004 11:08 AM

yo yo, does anyone know where you can get the extentions that work with the newest version? i can;'t seem to find any.. ^_^lll

[ 10-16-2004, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: Spirits forever ]

RoSs_bg2_rox 10-16-2004 11:45 AM

Yep it is great. Love the tabbed browsing.

Spirits try here [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-16-2004, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: RoSs_bg2_rox ]

Ivelliis 10-16-2004 11:54 AM

I'm using it ATM, and its great :D Its a lot easier than having four or five IE windows up, tabs is such a simple but good idea!

Spirits forever 10-16-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoSs_bg2_rox:
Yep it is great. Love the tabbed browsing.

Spirits try here [img]smile.gif[/img]

OMg, thanks ross!! that's exactly what i needed :D

ps: i got a new sig! yay!

/)eathKiller 10-16-2004 12:17 PM

It reminds me of Opera! But without the annoying "did you know how to use the internet?" popups [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Snowball2050 10-16-2004 12:18 PM

firefox is great. only downside is that windows thinks iexplorer is better and keeps on yelling at me to change back. yay tabbed browsing

Felix The Assassin 10-16-2004 12:18 PM

<font color=cccccc>
Ja, Firefox is the ultimate in browser technology at the momnet.


A new sig? Where? Who? Spirits?
I think your dreaming!


Cool new sig there Spirits.</font>

RoSs_bg2_rox 10-16-2004 12:24 PM

Snowball- is that because you keep clicking on IE by anychance?

Spirits forever 10-16-2004 01:04 PM

hmm, ross, do you know which Extentions are good, there are soo many XD

and.. well i only used a few last time, but leech isn't made for 1.0.0 (w/e the newest one is)

XD

armageddon272 10-16-2004 07:00 PM

i've been using firefox for a while, the problem is that certain downloads, like yahoo LAUNCH music or whatever its called wont work except with IE. but no pop-ups makes up for it.

silencer 10-16-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowball2050:
firefox is great. only downside is that windows thinks iexplorer is better and keeps on yelling at me to change back. yay tabbed browsing
You can disable this in IE's settings.

As for Firefox - it definately is better than IE, but Opera is a valid choice also. One of the things I love about Opera is that it can store history pages in memory (resulting in instantaneous previous page-viewing). The downside to it is that it's only a good choice if you have a significant amount of memory. Besides the fact, I probably would switch to Firefox (it IS faster than Opera) except for the fact I believe the Mozilla core to be untried and only "secure" because of anonymity (but hey, that's just me being paranoid ;) ).

Felix The Assassin 10-16-2004 07:24 PM

armgeddon272 = One kicking the backside sig!

frudi_x 10-16-2004 09:50 PM

Spirits, regarding extensions...
AdBlock is a must, it allows you to block ALL ads on any webpage (yes, including those annoying flash-ads). you can even import filter lists that contain rules to block practicly any adserver you ever come across.
Tabbrowser Extensions adds a ton of options for more efficient tab management and Mouse Gestures can speed up your surfing if you don't have a mouse with extra buttons. Dictionary Search and Allow Right-click are also useful. oh, and Gmail Notifier if you got a Gmail account.

LennonCook 10-16-2004 11:00 PM

<span style="color: lightblue">/)eathkiller: It also isn't nearly as bloated as Opera. It thinks of itself as a browser. Not as a browser, a mail client, an IRC client... it also, in the default theme, obeys system policies in terms of its interface. And to top it all off, it doesn't have a "pay or have your content area limited by an intrusive add" deployment policy...

silencer: Gecko is also secure because Mozilla pays people to tear it to shreds to find security holes that need fixing. And ofcourse because it has a good bug reporting system, and good turnover times (the "shell" bug earlier this year, for example, was fixed within an hour of it being verified a security hole).

frudi_x: Forget Tabbrowser Extensions Completely. Uninstall it, go for less overbloated things. It completely replaces alot of Firefox's functions, including the popup blocker, with extremely inferior, and buggy, versions. It's realy useful features are in the Advanced Options of the branch nightlies. If you use the scrollbuttons on tabs, the Scrollable Tabs extension is what you want. All of TBE's other functions are also duplicated in other Extensions.
The Gmail notifier extension has some benifits, and some drawbacks - it's main drawback being that you have to open Firefox and load your homepage to be able to check if you have any GMail; but also it can't be set as your default mail client. The other way to avoid this is with Google's Gmail Notifier.
The Download Manager Tweak is also quite good.

My current extensions:
Allow Right-Click
BlankLast
BugMeNot
ChatZilla
Download Manager Tweak
EMbuttons
Mouse Gestures
Show Image
Scrollable Tabs

And a custom extension someone on #firefox made for me. I also have a very big userChrome.css file... it is currently hiding all of my menus, stopping text from blinking with the "Blink" tag, forcing my tabs to stay the same width all the time, no matter what, and to remove extra padding on the toolbars.

[ 10-17-2004, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Paladin2000 10-17-2004 04:56 AM

Have been using it since version 6.x, back then it was known as firebird. Since I downloaded a working version of Flashgot (Flashget support extension), I have been using Firefox 90% of the time.

My favorite extensions:
All-in-one-gesture (very good)
Disable target for download (slight buggy)
Flashgot (flawless)
Firesomething (fun)
FireFTP (don't really need a FTP client, but got anyway just to try it out... not very powerful)
Paste and Go (very useful for lazy people like me)
Launchy (not bad)
Tabbrowser Extension (slightly bloated but I find it quite handy)

Theme(s):
iCandy Junior 1.5 (FF 1.0 PR compatible version)

Long live Firefox!

[ 10-17-2004, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Paladin2000 ]

frudi_x 10-17-2004 09:37 AM

LennonCook, i'm actuall just in the middle of trying out some alternatives to Tabbrowser Extensions, but i just can't find all the functionality that i'd like from any other combination of extensions. all of them either do stuff that annoys the hell out of me (like Tabbrowser Preferences - keeps opening everything in a new tab, clutters up the tab bar in no-time), or just lack all the features i got used to (taking focus just by hovering your mouse over a tab, reopening closed tabs w/ middleclick, scrolling between tabs with the mouse, specifying what opens in for/background... and tons of other stuff i can't even remember now but just use subconsciously).
i think i'll stick with Tabbrowser Extensions... it's far from perfect, but the only real problem i've had with it is on some pages javascript popups don't work right. i can live with that, just to have all the functions i'm used to [img]smile.gif[/img]

Bahamut 10-17-2004 10:06 AM

Sorry to be the dumb guy here... But I honestly don't get extensions.

I am using Firefox, but of course I am not using it to its fullest. Sad. So I asking for advice in this regard... thanks [img]smile.gif[/img]

silencer 10-17-2004 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
silencer: Gecko is also secure because Mozilla pays people to tear it to shreds to find security holes that need fixing. And ofcourse because it has a good bug reporting system, and good turnover times (the "shell" bug earlier this year, for example, was fixed within an hour of it being verified a security hole).
I would never post claims unfounded - and hence mine were not. It's been getting a steady plethora of found bugs ever since it has become "the new browser." I've personally crashed it on 5 seperate occasions three weeks ago. However, this is not much of a reason for other people not to use it, I'm simply going to wait a year or two until things start evening out.

philip 10-17-2004 01:52 PM

Anyone else have trouble with random crashes mostly when you click on links and buttons with javascript commands on them? I'm using that preview prerelease.

Xen 10-17-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by philip:
Anyone else have trouble with random crashes mostly when you click on links and buttons with javascript commands on them? I'm using that preview prerelease.
I don't have any problems.

Lord High Eater of Legs 10-17-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by philip:
Anyone else have trouble with random crashes mostly when you click on links and buttons with javascript commands on them? I'm using that preview prerelease.
Yeh, sometimes, Java seems to screw up Firefox, but I still place it way above IE.

Spirits forever 10-18-2004 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frudi_x:
Spirits, regarding extensions...
AdBlock is a must, it allows you to block ALL ads on any webpage (yes, including those annoying flash-ads). you can even import filter lists that contain rules to block practicly any adserver you ever come across.
Tabbrowser Extensions adds a ton of options for more efficient tab management and Mouse Gestures can speed up your surfing if you don't have a mouse with extra buttons. Dictionary Search and Allow Right-click are also useful. oh, and Gmail Notifier if you got a Gmail account.

hmm thanks! i just got them....well i didn't but i'm about to.....well i'm going to when i get back from school there. and what's up w/ the new version, it's already got a hotmail notifier?

Paladin2000 10-18-2004 07:47 AM

Bahamut, extensions are like mini programs/add-ons that increase the functionality of the browser.

Firefox ships with full functionality as a stand-alone browser but some people prefer to have a little more functionality over the standard offering, that's where the extensions come in.

The best thing about extensions versus all-one-super-mumbo-jumbo browser is that you only download and use extensions that you need so that the browser will not be too bloated to the extent that it takes too much resources to run.

One of the good example of extensions is the mouse gesture. You could live without this feature but people like me would say otherwise. :D

Another good example of the extension is the "fireFTP". With this extension, you will have a built in (complete but rather simple) FTP client into the Firefox browser. FTP client is not as useful as it used to be nowadays because of P2P progras like Kazaa and BitTorrent but once in a while I do find the need to use a FTP client. *mumble* if only someone would bother to make a BitTorrent client extension... now, that is one very useful extension, IMO.

[ 10-18-2004, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Paladin2000 ]

philip 10-18-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord High Eater of Legs:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by philip:
Anyone else have trouble with random crashes mostly when you click on links and buttons with javascript commands on them? I'm using that preview prerelease.

Yeh, sometimes, Java seems to screw up Firefox, but I still place it way above IE. </font>[/QUOTE]I see. Well nothing to do about it as I love firefox way too much but I'd hoped for maybe a wrokaround or something. Maybe later in an update [img]smile.gif[/img]


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