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Stormymystic 09-06-2004 05:53 PM

recived this in my Email, we could really use her in this town....
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The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia

Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles.

The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -- and when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp. Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as calm as could be:
' Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.' Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up.

The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to, Detective Delp told reporters. Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through.

The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the Law would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I wasn't scared of them, either-- because I've got me a gun and I've been shootin' all my life. And I wasn't dumb enough to turn it in when the law changed about owning one."

So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos', tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel.

I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them, the oldster recalled.

So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know.
Then I went in and shot the other one as he backed up pleading to me to spare him. Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in.

Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for sainthood and a medal.


DEPORT HER TO AMERICA -- WE NEED HER!!!
[ 09-06-2004, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: Stormymystic ]

Arledrian 09-06-2004 05:58 PM

If there's one thing America doesn't need it's more "bite-us-and-we'll-bite-you-harder" people. That pretty much summarizes why there are so many problems in this country. That, and shooting someone's balls off is just a no-go. I mean, what is it with you people lately, posting stories of genital-mauling like there's no tomorrow? :D [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 06:01 PM

hey, I am a woman, that is my privilage [img]tongue.gif[/img]


edit....geez I can not type today :/

[ 09-06-2004, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Stormymystic ]

aleph_null1 09-06-2004 06:07 PM

You're a party pooper, Arledrian...

... though I'd recommend keeping away from the lawyer heaven that is the U.S. Here, she'd probably get 20-30 years and owe the rapists half a million dollars for the deed ...

... I can only hope that all the stories we hear about Australia being the last home of cowboy judges and old-fashioned 'hang 'em all' juries aren't overly exaggerated ;)

RevRuby 09-06-2004 06:07 PM

hey i support it. i wish grandma's would do it for molestation and rape. everyone should have an 81yo who loves them so.

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by RevRuby:
hey i support it. i wish grandma's would do it for molestation and rape. everyone should have an 81yo who loves them so.
exactly [img]smile.gif[/img] I am glad she did it, it serves them right to have done something like that to an 18 year old girl. or to anyone for that matter!

LordKathen 09-06-2004 06:11 PM

<font color=lime>I like it! :D :D :D [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] </font>

Illumina Drathiran'ar 09-06-2004 06:17 PM

I guess we'll find out if, in fact, no jury in the world would convict someone like that.

Stratos 09-06-2004 06:25 PM

While I don't condone her actions, this lady sure have balls, unlike the rapists.

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Stratos:
While I don't condone her actions, this lady sure have balls, unlike the rapists.
not to sound bad, but I do condone her actions, it seems that the law has gotten lax in regards to rapist, and they get off way to easy. my mother as raped, and the cops did nothing about it! the guy got off scot free. the feelings that the girl will face for the rest of her life are alot harder to deal with than what the law would give them, this way as the old lady said, they will not be able to do this to anyone else....

Davros 09-06-2004 06:30 PM

Sorry to busrt your bubble Stormy, but you are guilty of falling for another hoax. Your account looked extremely dubious to me, an Aussie who keeps up with news in his country. I searched on Google to learn more about this amazing granny of whom I have never heard and I found this :

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This chain letter began masquerading as a legitimate news report in 2000 and contains popular elements of urban legendry: A female victim, male attackers and an unlikely hero. There are several signs it is not as it appears:

While it mimics the look and feel of a real news article, it lacks several key elements to make it believable and verifiable (e.g., a byline, date) and the writing is somewhat unconventional.

The message contains language that would be inconsistent with a news report from Australia. Instead, it is much more in line with an American author, indicating that it was either crafted in the U.S. and later adapted to Australia, or was written by an American to look like an Australian report.

Real law enforcement officials would not likely look so likely upon Ava Estelle's actions. Most take vigilantism very seriously and would hardly be "baffled" on how to treat her. She committed a crime and would be arrested and tried. Perhaps, the author set the tale in Australia due to a global perception of Australians being more laid-back and independent and thus, more likely to admire a "gun-toting granny."

Exhaustive searches of U.S. and Australian news sources fail to turn up any reliable account of the alleged events. Nor are there any accounts of the trial and prosecution of Evan Delp, Davis Furth or Ava Estelle in the Office of Public Prosecutions in Melbourne. In fact, many sources have even printed stories describing the story as a hoax.
The story is believed to have most likley evolved from the gun loving minds of one of your more fervent local NRA members Stormy. It makes good copy, and it spreads the message an armed society is a polite society. A message that we Aussies would colloqially describe as DRIBBLE and the Brits would tell you was BOLLOCKS. Not a pair of shot off revenge luvin granny hated bollocks - just bollocks.

Arvon 09-06-2004 06:31 PM

Good show Granny!

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Davros:
Sorry to busrt your bubble Stormy, but you are guilty of falling for another hoax. Your account looked extremely dubious to me, an Aussie who keeps up with news in his country. I searched on Google to learn more about this amazing granny of whom I have never heard and I found this :

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
This chain letter began masquerading as a legitimate news report in 2000 and contains popular elements of urban legendry: A female victim, male attackers and an unlikely hero. There are several signs it is not as it appears:

While it mimics the look and feel of a real news article, it lacks several key elements to make it believable and verifiable (e.g., a byline, date) and the writing is somewhat unconventional.

The message contains language that would be inconsistent with a news report from Australia. Instead, it is much more in line with an American author, indicating that it was either crafted in the U.S. and later adapted to Australia, or was written by an American to look like an Australian report.

Real law enforcement officials would not likely look so likely upon Ava Estelle's actions. Most take vigilantism very seriously and would hardly be "baffled" on how to treat her. She committed a crime and would be arrested and tried. Perhaps, the author set the tale in Australia due to a global perception of Australians being more laid-back and independent and thus, more likely to admire a "gun-toting granny."

Exhaustive searches of U.S. and Australian news sources fail to turn up any reliable account of the alleged events. Nor are there any accounts of the trial and prosecution of Evan Delp, Davis Furth or Ava Estelle in the Office of Public Prosecutions in Melbourne. In fact, many sources have even printed stories describing the story as a hoax.

The story is believed to have most likley evolved from the gun loving minds of one of your more fervent local NRA members Stormy. It makes good copy, and it spreads the message an armed society is a polite society. A message that we Aussies would colloqially describe as DRIBBLE and the Brits would tell you was BOLLOCKS. Not a pair of shot off revenge luvin granny hated bollocks - just bollocks. </font>[/QUOTE]oh well, was fun while it lasted :D

Ilander 09-06-2004 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Stratos:
While I don't condone her actions, this lady sure have balls, unlike the rapists.
Oh, that's bad...but still funny.

I'm pro-granny in this one. I think I'm even more pro-martial arts, though...some creep tries to force you into doing something with a knife, and you take it from him/her.

Stratos 09-06-2004 06:43 PM

While I live by the Wisdom of the Great Philosophers; No Man deserveth a kick on his Most Holies, I'm willing to make an exception when it comes to rape.

Kick it, ladies!

[ 09-06-2004, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Davros 09-06-2004 06:51 PM

So by that last statement Stormy (quote : It was fun while it lasted :D ) with the grinning smiley are you saying that you knew it was a hoax all along. Are you saying that you just wanted to perpetuate the myth that an armed society is a polite society and you didn't care who of your friends here at IW you fooled and took for a ride.

I am reminded of the story and the lessons of the boy who called wolf.

Melusine 09-06-2004 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stormymystic:
the feelings that the girl will face for the rest of her life are alot harder to deal with than what the law would give them
Even though this is only a theoretical point, as Davros pointed out this is such an obvious hoax, I strongly disagree. If this had happened, the grandmother would have done her grandchild a great injury. Everyone would know the girl was raped, the media would be all over her, she would not be granted time and peace to deal with it in her own way and shame would probably just about kill her. Some women do manage to forgive whoever did it, you know, or at least do not want to fall back on such barbarous tactics because of privately held convictions. Bloodthirsty idiots with big mouths and no real empathy with the victims should not be so quick to be the ones to administer fantasised punishment - that should be a part of the victim's own process of recovery which is different in every single case.

[ 09-06-2004, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Davros:
So by that last statement Stormy (quote : It was fun while it lasted :D ) with the grinning smiley are you saying that you knew it was a hoax all along.
I am reminded of the story and the lessons of the boy who called wolf.

no, actually, I did not know it was a hoax. but I will not justify me reasons for posting it.
Quote:

Are you saying that you just wanted to perpetuate the myth that an armed society is a polite society and you didn't care who of your friends here at IW you fooled and took for a ride.
how many people here p[ost things just like this knowing they are jokes? and are not insulted about it? as stated above, I did not know it was a hoax, and in fact the person who sent it to me did not know either, for it was my husband.

Dron_Cah 09-06-2004 08:31 PM

Well, either way, I enjoyed it immensely! :D I think everyone feels very similar towards rapists, whether we are violent and gun-toting, or not! ;)

Kakero 09-06-2004 09:39 PM

It's a very interesting to read story about people taking matters into their own hand. even if it's a false story.

Stormymystic 09-06-2004 10:03 PM

oh and on another thought...my true friends here at IW know I would never intentionly post something that is a hoax, unless I state that it is one. granted, that post I made did look as if I knew, and for that I am sorry. if I knew this was cause this much trouble, I would never had posted it in the first place. that said, I will leave this thread alone now.

Hivetyrant 09-07-2004 07:48 AM

Hehehe True or False, it was still funny [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Knightscape 09-07-2004 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
Hehehe True or False, it was still funny [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
A story about rape vigilantism, and mutilation. I can think of many adjectives to describe the story; funny is not one of them.

Melusine 09-07-2004 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Knightscape:
A story about rape vigilantism, and mutilation. I can think of many adjectives to describe the story; funny is not one of them.
Totally agree.

RevRuby 09-07-2004 09:21 AM

perhaps funny was being used like entertaining. i find many movies and tv shows horrific but entertaining.

Melusine 09-07-2004 09:42 AM

OK fine, then it's an entertaining rape story. :rolleyes: I don't think you can compare the horror of a scary movie to the horror of a rape story presented as true, at all.
Personally I find it sick to use something as seriously horrible as that as an excuse to crack jokes or push political agendas - so I find the story funny nor entertaining.

Hivetyrant 09-07-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Knightscape:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
Hehehe True or False, it was still funny [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

A story about rape vigilantism, and mutilation. I can think of many adjectives to describe the story; funny is not one of them. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry if I offended, I meant funny that an older lady went after two criminals and got revenge, it doesnt happen that often, I suppose it wasnt funny, but entertaining, and its not real anyway...

Melusine 09-07-2004 10:04 AM

You're not offending at all, not me anyway. I just disagree with people who find it funny.

Knightscape 09-07-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Knightscape:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Hivetyrant:
Hehehe True or False, it was still funny [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

A story about rape vigilantism, and mutilation. I can think of many adjectives to describe the story; funny is not one of them. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry if I offended, I meant funny that an older lady went after two criminals and got revenge, it doesnt happen that often, I suppose it wasnt funny, but entertaining, and its not real anyway... </font>[/QUOTE]I agree with Melusin. No offence was taken, just a difference of opinion.

Hivetyrant 09-07-2004 11:04 PM

Thats good, I dont want to get on the bad side of anyone...Yet.... :D

Dron_Cah 09-07-2004 11:32 PM

Ha! As a completely fictitious story, I think it's rather good. I don't know the definition we all go by for funny, but I certainly chuckled when I read the "doctor's description" of the damage done. :D

/)eathKiller 09-08-2004 12:55 AM

havent you ever heard of a dark sense of humor? I find films like this to be hillarious! (I made that by the way)

and the fact that this came from an e-mail clearly shows that its an urban legend. Thousands of these get sent around in e-mails every day and some times they're even believed by people as being fact! That's what ledgends do, after all, they tell a story which could be true that instills an insperation to look at the world from a differint perspective and think outside the box. It's that sort of injenuity that inspires people to take a closer look when examining their own world and instills a number of things ranging from confidence to conspiracy theories, the way it is managed is up to the viewer, and if the viewer doesn't like it, then what gives that viewer the authority to enforce their thoughts on others and cause them to hate what has otherwise been considered something done for fun? Is it hurting you directly? is it hurting anybody? It is harmful at all? No! It's a legend! That's all I have to say in this matter and contesting my word only further proves my point that some people just don't like others to feel good about their actions because they disagree with being told a legend is true or false when it could, in theory, be either. Last time I checked there was a thing called freedom of speech and if it allowed someone to write a story then it sure as hell also mandated that that story could be otherwise re-posted and distributed to be told, like many legends are, so that the spirit of the message carries on.

SpongeBobTheDestoyer 09-08-2004 02:57 AM

rape - not funny
vigilante justice - not funny
guns - not funny
shot to the crotch - definately NOT funny
81 year old 'terminator' - funny

[ 09-08-2004, 03:00 AM: Message edited by: SpongeBobTheDestoyer ]

Hivetyrant 09-08-2004 05:42 AM

Yeah, thats what I meant, the words like "Rambo Granny", "wrinkeled avenger" and "Vigelante granny" were the things to make me Laugh. I do not find rape funny, if thats what some people were thinking.

Dave_the_quack 09-08-2004 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by aleph_null1:
... I can only hope that all the stories we hear about Australia being the last home of cowboy judges and old-fashioned 'hang 'em all' juries aren't overly exaggerated ;)
GOOD GOD NO! LoL I suppose you also think that we all have kangaroo's and Koala's as pets roaming in our backyards? Eh? LoL personally I want a Platypus, because it has to be one of the most outrageous animals around...

Anyways, lets get back to a point of some sort. Australia is not some backwater country without laws and regulations ya doof. Although, I know your joking... ARENT YOU [img]tongue.gif[/img]

To everyone else, it IS a joke, do not get offended, the rape part of the whole story was just the lead in, and I myself found the story of the Gun-toting Gran to be quite amusing, even though it shows the poor image we Australians have over in the US. Wow, that was a long sentence.

Even if Story DID know it was a hoax, who cares? Stormy, I for one appreciate light attempts at humour on this forum... Keep up the good work darl [img]smile.gif[/img]

Grojlach 09-08-2004 11:06 AM

This thread is a good example of why I usually avoid General Conversation nowadays.

Dave_the_quack 09-08-2004 02:27 PM

Deathkiller... I watched your movie, and all I can say is.. HUH?

LoL I laughed at the big speech bubble attacking the kitty... but apart from that I was just lost. Its no detriment to your talent whatsoever, I think your brilliant to be able to create something like that, when I had to ask how to quote someone on here.

End of meaningless rambling.

Stormymystic 09-08-2004 03:15 PM

any chance this thread can just go away? it was a mistake to put it up in the first place, and I have appoligised to many times, and really wish that everyone would just let it go!

Dron_Cah 09-08-2004 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Grojlach:
This thread is a good example of why I usually avoid General Conversation nowadays.
Aren't we just a little ray of sunshine? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Stormy, if you're tired of looking at it, you could lock it. ;)


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