Getting a character to level 10 and from there on NO QUESTS, NO GRINDING but just going into bg 24/7 until you hit 60. I bet if somebody actually did manage to do that, they would be an unstoppable force because they would know how to play their class very well. If nobody has done this, i am trying it out. made level 13 with a lock so far and it is pretty tough.

Horde ftw [img]smile.gif[/img]

I've done it with my rogue but I would grind for the early levels (as in level 20-23 and 4-43) so I wouldn't be that much of a target in Bg's when I show up. I was exalted at level 24 with wsg and at 40 with AB. He is 60 now and got the Warlord set but I don't play him much anymore. All I do now is play PVP alts, since 60's pvp is too diverse to be consistent.

I am trying this with my rogue, and he is at lvl 34 atm.

It's fun, but can get a bit tedious at times.

I had more success/fun going from 35-45 with my druid.

What's your rogues rep with WSG Hive? I only started PVPing mid-20s and mine is nearly honoured (also level 34). I'd love to get revered for the dagger/swords but it's just so tedious with the alliance twinks.

Burnzey keeps creating new toon because he's afraid of raiding on his main.

Which could, of course, have a lot to do with how he grinds fast and spends tons of time in BGs. Hey, burnzey, and everyone else, heed this: The BEST thing you can do to learn your class and play your toon is to do INSTANCES not BGs.

As an added bonus, when you get to 60, you won't be afraid to start raiding.

BGs help a LOT -- they teach you much. But only if you let them.

Instances, however, force you to learn -- because if you don't everyone dies.

Sounds like it would be fun, if not extremely tedious. Oh and I see we've got our resident "WoW expert" with his comments. This should be mildly entertaining, if not extremely nauseating at the same time.

Well this is rich: Some jag off talking down about fear to someone who plays on a PvP server, when he's playing on a nice and cozy care-bear server. Now that's just funny. Why don't you get a 60 on a PvP server, then come back here and talk some more smack about fear and what not. At least then you will have earned the right. You really are a good laugh, timber.

This taken from the same person who thinks rogues are "teh overpowered and only need one HP". Yeah, I'd certainly take his advice. "A full set of epics does not a good player make", you and many others are solid proof of that. The best thing one can do to learn their class is a healthy dose of both instances and PvP, but the important thing is to do what you enjoy. Don't listen to elitists who think it's their responsibility to tell everyone else how to play their class. These types of morons are only good for one thing: /ignore

What is there to be afraid of besides boredom? You stand around and do the same crap over and over and over and over again. The first couple of times it may be challenging, after that its just business as usual. The only time I've ever seen a raid wipe in one of the end game instances is either when they are just starting something new, bad luck, or because some moron isn't doing what they are supposed to do.

Good point here, poor execution. Next time try offering helpful advice without trying to tell burnzey how to play his own character or tearing him down for not playing the game the way you think he should. I’ve said my piece; so don’t even bother with any of your idiotic “OMG! STFU! WTF!” crap. I see your name and usually just skip right over it, because I know it’s not worth the time or the tiny amount of brainpower it would require. I don't like the way you rag on other forum members, so I felt some sort of response was justified in this case.

glyc

[ 08-14-2006, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: Glycerine_74 ]

Seriously dude, what's Timber done to deserve a hate-"Your posts are wrong" post everytime he posts in a WoW topic? I'm not trying to brown-nose Timber, or stick up for him like I'm his bitch ( *giggles* ), or anything, and I'm sure he can fight his own battles, but every single topic turns into a mini-flame fest. Can't we just tone it down, and if you don't have anything constructive to add to the topic at hand, other than claiming everything TL says is s*@%, can you just leave this petty little hatred away, or move it to PM so the rest of us can talk nicely about WoW, hating people who gank us and moaning that Dranei in spaceships aren't part of lore, etc. etc. etc.

First, off, I'm just razzing Burnzey. He's got toons on my server, and I've offered to get him started raiding. I wouldn't do that if I thought anything ill of him as a player. So, gratz on not knowing dick.

I think Burnzey knows I'm just teasing, and if he doesn't, he can surely speak with me on his own. By the by, Burnzey's got a much better pvp game than I do because he has played more characters and does it a lot more. I may raid, but he's got an army of alts. Plus, I owe him a good razzing because the last time he dragged me over to Ashenvale for some late-nite alliance ganking I racked up 3 DKs.

Subpoint A of first point: It's none of your business, nosey.

Second, I thought I instructed you not to talk to me. You don't like me, you don't respect my opinion. I feel the same about you, rest assured. In fact, I think it's proof of your extremely "challenged" intellectual status that you even took the time to take my post seriously, and even worse, fisk it to death.

Two people who feel this way about each other have no business arguing over a forum, annoying the piss out of everyone else. So, end it.

[ 08-14-2006, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Glycerine this is your last warning if you contine to flame bait in this manner you will be banned.

I don't know what issue you have with Timber but if this continues then your gone.

[ 08-14-2006, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

Glycerine_74, Chill dude. People play they way they want. Flaming people on my Forum is *NOT* allowed.

If you have a beef with someone, PM them--and don't be so mean. Would you talk like that to another stranger in person? Nope. Respect.

*agrees with TDC*

/AFK

[ 08-15-2006, 06:03 AM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

I'm feeling rather confused.. All my topics have ended in fights :S Sorry for the trouble i caused :( (lvl 17 and almost exhaulted with wsg)

Now.. *rubs hands together* Let us talk about the wondderfulnes of the upcoming WoW! May i add i am a little cheesed Xrealms hasn't come by yet, been waiting for it for ages and the ques are long as. Hurry up Blizz [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Timber, I am afraid of end game instances because each time i muck up in an instance (for example, Scholomance) I got kicked because i didnt pull the mob off the healer in time while i was on low health myself, and the mage in our group was basicly almost full health and mana was just doing his own little thing. I got kicked and called an idiot, that is why i don't like instances. I prefer BG's because you can do whatever, there is no rules and even if you wipe you are back in the game ready to rumble. Yes raiding MC, BWL gives it's pvp gear but i can't stand other players and the way they act to each other. I was kind of thinking WoW would at least be more mature than my other previous games (Runescape ect..) Instead my chat is always spammed with 'Chuck Norris' 'Noob' and other variations of cursewords that would otherwise be see to on IW forum.

*I have nothing other gamers personally, only a select few that are really ignorant and rude that shouldn't be playing at all. After all, i have more on friends list than ignore.*

Hehe i know you were just teasing Timber ;) Glyc no need to panic mate, It's all relatively safe and fun on this forum and nothing is held personaly.

[ 08-15-2006, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: burnzey boi ]

Keep working at it Burnzey. Anytime I'm available I'll go on a run with you to Scholololflcopter or wherever. Did you switch your spec to prot like you planned?

In regards to my earlier post, I guess the final outcome is, I was exactly 100% right, it's something we'd discussed in-game, and I happen to know that you're a new level 60 warrior who's trying to develop MT skillz.

And those skillz are key for those instances. Now, if the mage had pulled the mob, that would mean he aggro'd by not properly assisting you. The priest however, probably overhealed someone -- you, whoever. The priest will usually be your biggest problem for keeping aggro. It leaves you and goes right to him. If it leaves you and goes to the mage/lock/hunter, it's their problem. If it goes to the priest, it's your problem. If you're worried about low health, don't. If you die, it was the priest's fault. If you die and everyone wipes it will be seen as not your fault, but if the priest dies and you're still standing, you did something wrong.

Oh well, you live you learn. Now, did this priest not know how to Fade, or what?

Some spec build discussions for you Burnzey, hope it helps:

A Prot build used by our MT:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVMxzZVZEizoxM0qo

A mixed build for MT/OT duties in MC and BWL:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pAhxbhZVxzZxizox

One of our best DPSer's, Terriz, uses this build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TZVVuV0xowoEbzox
Fury build, but it is well known that when T wants aggro, T gets aggro.

Our MT provides this handy Cliff's notes guide to tanking:
Finally, one of our tanks/GL's provides this little comparrison between prot tree as needed in Blue-dungeon end-game vs. 40-man raiding:
[ 08-15-2006, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

I play a protection warrior (14/5/32) and let me say...you'll make your money by living in instances only. You can't do much else, but if you enjoy it you should play it, and I enjoy tanking.

However you'll be stuck to do anything else. Protection spec isn't needed anywhere, but if you're new to encounters it's useful. I'd probably respec to fury or arms, if I found decent weapons, but I LOVE shield slam.

My Fury warrior can still tank Baron, Scarlet Stratholme and Scholomance without much problem, protection warriors are mostly better for UBRS, ZG, etc. Plus, Fury is just plain old fun to charge at a mob and kill it 10 seconds later ^_^

Burnzey... How are you levelling in the Battlegrounds? The only experience you can get is from turning in the victory/defeat markers which is a quest, but you said you're not doing quests so I'm a bit confused. Also, if you're almost exalted at level 17 I'm doing that next 0_0

I'm sure your fury warrior can tank MC too, our MT is a fury warrior and it's no problem what spec you are.

Then again, he can't keep up with the hunters/mages/rogues in DPS. No way. Simply because warriors aren't made for aggro decrease, while rogues feint, hunters feign, mages...well mages just die but whatever.

Can't remember how far along he is, but I am close to maxing out I think.

Only problem is that if you don't have much money (like me) its hard to keep up and every now and then you ahve to do some grinding to get better gear, which is essential to a rogue.

My Fury warrior can still tank Baron, Scarlet Stratholme and Scholomance without much problem, protection warriors are mostly better for UBRS, ZG, etc. Plus, Fury is just plain old fun to charge at a mob and kill it 10 seconds later ^_^

Burnzey... How are you levelling in the Battlegrounds? The only experience you can get is from turning in the victory/defeat markers which is a quest, but you said you're not doing quests so I'm a bit confused. Also, if you're almost exalted at level 17 I'm doing that next 0_0 </font>[/QUOTE]Lol, quests that don't involve outside pvp BG. Keep in mind it gets boring waiting in que for a while..

My rogue hit 40 tonight (its 3AM) :D

And although I have been playing for over a year (not very often except for recently) I am about to buy my first mount!


Woot!

I envy you. To experience the magic of your first mount all over again. This is what happens when you play too much too soon : /.

Well you get your first mount... then you get your EPIC mount and then your like... Yeaaahhh... Actually the best thing that has happened to me on the game was making freinds with ol lofty on his server. Those were some good times :D

P.S TWO 60's wooooooot

I have two 60s but still haven't got an epic mount. Closest I've been is winning a 1000g recipe and giving it to a friend. It's just so hard to make cash for me :(

I usually make commander via PVP and buy it for 70-80g. Only epic I bought was on my pally but that was a quest costing about 500g in total.

Problem is, my warrior is tank spec so no PVP for him, and I can't stand PVP on my hunter.

That, and my bad connection/spec on my PC means I get bad lag in PVP often.

It's not the kills.. The flag. Kills give you 10 - 80 honour but depositing all flags at once is worth 1k honour. If you really want, roll just sit in stealth and farm hk's. great in AV if your in the shower :D (need one of those duck things that pokes your keyboard so you don't go afk [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

And Iv, prot wars kick ass at times in pvp. Especially against rogues, a rogues main objective is to give out burst damage in a short time, warriors can hold that very easily and even more if your prot. Mages are a pain but concussion blow to stun, shield slam and the ability to silence them is nice. Locks are difficult.. Best you keep switching from defence to beserk for them. Hunters.. Yep these guys are a pain, prot warriors cant beat these guys so don't try unless provoked.

[ 08-27-2006, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: burnzey boi ]

Hmm...never tried PVP with him, to be honest. He's just my personal tank if no warriors are online from my guild/raidgroup. Kind of like the "Nuran" and no ugly "Private Nuran" like I get with my hunter.