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Luvian 02-28-2006 07:26 PM

Most of you must have guessed by now, but I haven't been online in a while.

I tried to keep playing because I like meeting my friends ingame, but I just couldn't have fun with the game anymore. It's to the point that I don't even like trying out new contect. The last time I tried something new was Blackwind Lair in patch 1.6. I didn't try anything else since then. Dragons, Silithus, it's all the same thing. When you're not farming for reputation you're farming for item pieces, or mobs in an instance.

The pre endgame is different and more interesting, but knowing what my low level characters have to expect once they reach 60, I can't manage to have any fun with them either.

Raiding high end instances drained all the fun and enjoyment I had in this game. I will be back to try the expension, but after 200+ hours raiding for epics, I don't think I'll ever really be able to enjoy an item based or raiding mmorpg ever again.

Kakero 02-28-2006 07:30 PM

How about quit for good, like me? ;)

There's nothing much to do in WOW anyway except for raiding, farming, raiding, farming, raiding, farming and killing stupid hordes who dare tagged themselves.

SpiritWarrior 02-28-2006 08:07 PM

I too, took many breaks from this game due to boredom. The raiding end of the game sux, period. It will kill your love for the game after awhile. The only thing that keeps me playing is PvP atm. I can't be bothered to level my new chars to 60 since I know everything there is to know and each quest is an excuse to make you go out into the timesink and grind more. When you play as long as we have, we can't really expect to relive the 'magic' with every char we roll and I am well aware of this. I miss that magic personally and I fondly remember the sense of wonder I had when playing my first character, a feeling that stayed around all the way to 60.

WoW is an experience - a great one at that but all experiences get old when repeated, and we're pushed to look for new ones. In our cases, there is nothing new to do so we need to look to other games. I am still playing WoW atm, but casually and usually I am either PvPing, exploring or helping guildies. Honestly, an hour or more of PvE and I'm bored, even when I am helping people with quests or instances. In a way I am burnt-out also.

Sadly, WoW has probably got the most MMO's have to offer atm. I am just waiting really, for something new to come along and will probably immerse myself in Oblivion or some other offline game with tons of single-player content when I get my hands on one.

SecretMaster 02-28-2006 10:16 PM

I find WoW boring and Blizzard to be the most shady gaming company out there.

Bethesda and the ES series is my beacon of light.

Timber Loftis 03-01-2006 10:11 AM

Well, I reached level 60 like 2 days ago and I'm already seeing how it can get boring. I don't really even want to farm for my epic mount or quest for my Ritual of Doom spell.

I'm in a real fix because I've already completed over half my shopping list for items I want up to MC (hat, chest, gloves, boots, leggings, shoulders all set to what I want), but I'm not in a guild that's going to be raiding MC anytime soon. And even though I've only been in each between 2 and 8 times, I can tell you there's only so much Strat/Scholo/UBRS a guy can handle.

I'll try ZG for the first time tonight and see how I like it.

But, I'm definately at a point of diminishing returns, and as you say the wonder of WOW is over. I did just recently get on Teamspeak, so I'm getting to know guildies in a much better way. That I like. But I already have a core group of RL friends who play, and we gather at one of our houses and play there on Friday nights, so the whole team/voice thing's not new to me either.

I would have been baffled if you guys who have been 60 since I started weren't fed up by now.

I have little patience for repeat experiences. I played the best game ever, BGII, all the way through exactly once. Same with BG1. I went back and dabbled again with both games, but thruth be told I'm not a repeat experience kind of guy.

TheCrimsomBlade 03-01-2006 10:43 AM

GUILD WARS RULES. :D Still going and still growing
strong and soon to have a second expansion and stand
alone game.

Like SecretMaster I too am waiting for ES IV
Oblivion but will still be playing Guild Wars.

After Beta testing DDO (worst D&D game since Pool
of Radiance PC) So my MMORPG is Guild Wars and for
single player RPG ES IV Oblivion. and the wait for
NWN 2 and Biowares Dragon Age.

SpiritWarrior 03-01-2006 11:13 AM

Well I gave GW up after two weeks...lol. I guess the casual aspect has re-play value though.

I am currently playing the PC version of Fable, never played the console one and was pleasantly surprised by this one so kept playing, lol.

Glycerine_74 03-01-2006 12:10 PM

Essentially, that's really all WoW's end game will ever be: farming for items. Either you are PvP'ing to get that new item, or raiding Molten Core to get that new item, or farming reputation to get that new item, or farming mobs to get that new item, etc. That's pretty much what turned me off and burned me out. I haven't played my Priest much at all since I've gotten him to 60, but it is occasionally fun to do some of the end game instances like Scholomance, UBRS, etc. But in the end, it all boils down to the same thing: farming for items in one way or another. It's pretty sad that the 1-59 game can be so engaging and engrossing, then it all just falls apart when you hit 60.

Glycerine

SpiritWarrior 03-01-2006 02:10 PM

Agreed but in WoW's defense, bear in mind that few MMO's even have an endgame (edit). At least at 60 you can go about a new routine for a time until you get bored with the high-lvl content. In other games there is nothing to do but log off or reroll.

Like I said I am bored with the PvE and endgame currently, but I do not forget what WoW offered me or the fact that it had more to offer me than any MMO I had played previously. I have been playing over a year, that is a record for me with an online game. I don't fault the game at all really and still have it on my top list of 'must plays'.

[ 03-01-2006, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ]

Glycerine_74 03-01-2006 04:31 PM

Don't get me wrong; I still think it's the best MMO out there. I just wish they could come up with some other hook then getting the "Uber Godly Epic Artifact of Superior Leetness".

I never could understand why there were always so many high level characters standing around in the main cities, doing nothing. After I made 60, it hit me. Either they are waiting to get a in group for some dungeon/battleground, or they are doing it so they can show off all their cool "stuff" to all the "lowbies". Trouble is it's too easy to get the good stuff and most every other 60 already has it too. It really doesn't take that much skill, just time invested. (Especially PvP) Hell, I've even had level 60s follow my low level Alliance rogue around practically screaming, "Look at me! Look at all cool stuff! DAMMIT LOOK AT MY EPIC MOUNT!" It just loses it's luster when you see 30 other characters with damn near the exact same gear and know that it's not about skill, but merely time. These days, when I see someone decked out in epics I just yawn and keep going. It reminds me that they didn't get that stuff because of any skill or personal ability, just sitting in front of their computer night after night after night. Oh well, such is the bane of all MMOs I guess. :(

Glycerine

[ 03-01-2006, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: Glycerine_74 ]

SpiritWarrior 03-01-2006 04:42 PM

Aye the looting system sux in WoW, it's what turned me off raiding. The DDO loot system was great, every char has their own loot table which is reserved for that person only. I agree there is nothing in the game that allows one to be truly unique...you can see something you like that someone has and then grind or raid until it drops.

Timber Loftis 03-01-2006 05:17 PM

DDO system "was" great? You mean "will be?"

Look, I won't deny this game hooked me as much as anything -- possibly ever. But, I saw this coming, and I'm afraid I'm going to get bored quickly.

As for the "every 60 has that" this is the case on my server. Character creation was cut off for a long time, so as a newly-minted 60 I'm a n00b on my server, and everyone's got better gear.

The solution to this is allow realm transfers and open some realms back up. The game isn't fun when everyone on the server is either a level 60 or an alt. I can't even go roll on the Alliance side and pretend to be a newb because they'll all know I'm an alt.

SpiritWarrior 03-01-2006 06:04 PM

Well, "was" when I was in beta. Not sure if they made any changes to it now that it's released.

Since you are a new 60 you have much still to do so don't let us old-timers drag you down. It depends though, on if you want to continue investing time in that character without levelling up anymore. I have mates who will just level to 60 and then reroll or stop playing, not caring about their first, second or third PvE tier set.

Luvian 03-01-2006 07:16 PM

Well... personally, I was accepted in the D&D online beta but didn't try it. I want to buy it and I decided not to spoil my initial enthusiasm on a beta. I did see my friend play the game 5 minutes.

I plan to keep playing Guild Wars, and get D&D when it come out.

Guild Wars is really fun the pve part is nice, and the PVP is the best I've had. You can create a character at the level cap, and unlock new skills with the faction you get from PVP, so every couple of hours I reroll my pvp character. Yesterday I played a ranger all morning, unlocked an elite mesmer skill and rerolled mesmer, then later rerolled the best necro I ever did. Tonight I plan to retry a mesmer, and maybe a warrior with a new elite axe skill.

How can you get bored with PVP when you change your class and unlock new skills all the time? And the game is free too!

Timber Loftis 03-02-2006 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luvian:
How can you get bored with PVP when you change your class and unlock new skills all the time?
Well, One thing I like about WoW is I have 1 character who has stories, and a history, and I've spent a lot of time on him.

Ivelliis 03-02-2006 12:18 PM

I got bored of PVP a long time ago. Lagging and dying, or freezing and disconnecting, in battlegrounds was so annoying the few times it happened I gave up.

The problem with new characters is it feels almost like a chore to level them to 60. Although, as I play on a roleplaying realm, rolling a sexist, drunk, axe-wielding dwarven warrior, and his calm(er) brother, dwarven priest, roleplaying as them is very fun, even if they are levels 16 and 6 respectedly.

Timber Loftis 03-02-2006 05:57 PM

Announcement: I have temporarily quit WOW as well.


(for one night -- grinding wife faction)

SpiritWarrior 03-02-2006 06:14 PM

The honored rewards are said to be sweet!

Luvian 03-03-2006 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Luvian:
How can you get bored with PVP when you change your class and unlock new skills all the time?

Well, One thing I like about WoW is I have 1 character who has stories, and a history, and I've spent a lot of time on him. </font>[/QUOTE]You can make PVE characters and those will have stories and a history. And you can keep one slot open for your pvp characters when you just want to kick ass and have fun.

I really like my PVE priest and I take her out to pvp often, or my new mesmer I'm raising, but it's really nice to be able to pvp with any class you want without having to play weeks to get him to the level cap first, then you're tired of the character.

There's no arguing which class is the best like in WoW. You think X class is better, you make one and find out for yourself. You'll realise they get in trouble too.

SpiritWarrior 03-03-2006 01:13 PM

Well the revamping your char for PVP each time sounds fun I just wasn't too keen on GW pvp..I don't know why. I admit I didn't play the game a whole lot but did log on daily for awhile there (1-2 weeks). The issues that soured me were the rudeness/abrasiveness of most people and that annoying graphical 'stutter' which I still haven't figured out. It took away from my gaming when it was going off every minute or so.

The lack of policing, support and patching of the game for problems like this made me frustrated, so I stopped logging on and went back to WoW. I just checked right now, and the issue is still there. http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13220

Lord of Alcohol 03-03-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Announcement: I have temporarily quit WOW as well.


(for one night -- grinding wife faction)

I'd be happy to grind with your wife so you can play more woW [img]smile.gif[/img]

Timber Loftis 03-03-2006 03:27 PM

Just a little over the line there on that one, LoA.

[ 03-03-2006, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

SecretMaster 03-03-2006 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Announcement: I have temporarily quit WOW as well.


(for one night -- grinding wife faction)

I'd be happy to grind with your wife so you can play more woW [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Whoahhhhh there lassie....

TheCrimsomBlade 03-03-2006 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior:
Well the revamping your char for PVP each time sounds fun I just wasn't too keen on GW pvp..I don't know why. I admit I didn't play the game a whole lot but did log on daily for awhile there (1-2 weeks). The issues that soured me were the rudeness/abrasiveness of most people and that annoying graphical 'stutter' which I still haven't figured out. It took away from my gaming when it was going off every minute or so.

The lack of policing, support and patching of the game for problems like this made me frustrated, so I stopped logging on and went back to WoW. I just checked right now, and the issue is still there. http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13220

I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features.

THIS Problem was addressed last year two weeks befor the release of the game the problem is your card Read below .

There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX video cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain and a stutter in display.

The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:

* Open Display Properties control panel
* Click Settings tab
* Click Advanced button
* Click GeForce "Version" tab
* Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
* In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
* Move the slider to the right to "High quality"

The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:

* GeForce FX 5200
* GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5500
* GeForce FX 5700
* GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5700LE
* GeForce FX 5900
* GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5900 XT
* GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
* GeForce PCX 5300
* GeForce PCX 5750
* GeForce PCX 5900

[ 03-03-2006, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]

SpiritWarrior 03-03-2006 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SpiritWarrior:
Well the revamping your char for PVP each time sounds fun I just wasn't too keen on GW pvp..I don't know why. I admit I didn't play the game a whole lot but did log on daily for awhile there (1-2 weeks). The issues that soured me were the rudeness/abrasiveness of most people and that annoying graphical 'stutter' which I still haven't figured out. It took away from my gaming when it was going off every minute or so.

The lack of policing, support and patching of the game for problems like this made me frustrated, so I stopped logging on and went back to WoW. I just checked right now, and the issue is still there. http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13220

I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features.

THIS Problem was addressed last year two weeks befor the release of the game the problem is your card Read below .

There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX video cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain and a stutter in display.

The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:

* Open Display Properties control panel
* Click Settings tab
* Click Advanced button
* Click GeForce "Version" tab
* Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
* In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
* Move the slider to the right to "High quality"

The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:

* GeForce FX 5200
* GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5500
* GeForce FX 5700
* GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5700LE
* GeForce FX 5900
* GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
* GeForce FX 5900 XT
* GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
* GeForce PCX 5300
* GeForce PCX 5750
* GeForce PCX 5900
</font>[/QUOTE]Sadly CB this isn't my prob but thank you for the post. While browsing I found this problem and experience it sometimes on NPC's but nowhere else. I had applied the 'fix' anyways. Curiously, I am using a geforce ti 4600 which aren't known to be affected and I am using the 80.xx drivers (tried a few others in testing also).

My issue is a different one and it is so very annoying. It's odd because I truly never have trouble like this with games, my system is squeeky clean and maintained and I rarely get glitches in games other than actual performance limits. I currently have my slider on High Quality and no change.

Luvian 03-03-2006 10:46 PM

I know how you feel, I have a similar problem with Rome: Total War and they never fixed it, it really piss me off.

But in general they do patch a lot. I'll be playing and get a message saying something like "Game client updated, restart the game to download the latest build".

I sometimes try to ignore it but it get annoying because they keep spamming you until you do.

Lord of Alcohol 03-03-2006 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Just a little over the line there on that one, LoA.
Just being me TL lol, dont get mad [img]smile.gif[/img]

SpiritWarrior 03-04-2006 02:43 AM

Anyone ever deactivated their WoW account and chosen "Left for another game" as their reason? Well, I did for kicks this time and got the following (automated) response.

"...We are sorry to hear that another company has lured you away with their gaudy baubles and promises."

It almost sounds bitchy.

Sir Degrader 03-04-2006 10:41 AM

Sounds damn funny lol.

TheCrimsomBlade 03-04-2006 08:54 PM

The bitterness in the under tone is what the makers of Guild Wars would love to hear. Being that they
all quit Blizzard and they were the brains that developed most of what Blizzard is today. Then took
their knowledge and made their own game and are
starting to pull ahead in sales and are way ahead
in service. :D

TheCrimsomBlade 03-04-2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Just a little over the line there on that one, LoA.

Just being me TL lol, dont get mad [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]No offence ment to you LoA but many people have had there ability to
post here suspended for 7-30 days do to being themselves on this family
orented forum including me for alot less.

Megabot 03-08-2006 01:56 AM

Only fun in WOW right now is to make a new char and learn their skills..i am bored too now with this game, have trie GW but interface there kills the fun same is with D&D Online quited the game after 10 minutes :(

The interface in WOW rocks i have never seen better those 2 other games is crap when it come to interface.
So i guess i go back to my 4 char in WOW now a Hunter and get it to lvl 60 too..

And the AQ20 and AQ40 is boring too i have never seen more annoying monsters and stuff like in those instances :(
Best instance i know in this game is Mauradon very nice and cool i still go there only for fun and get some happyness with the game.

I think we need a Starcraft Online now [img]smile.gif[/img] WOS

[ 03-08-2006, 02:13 AM: Message edited by: Megabot ]

Ivelliis 03-08-2006 02:35 AM

You like Mauradon? *cringe* That's the second worst instance in the game, for me at least. The worst is Gnomeregan *screams*

As well as my 60 hunter, I've started a warrior, priest, mage and rogue. Slowly, very slowly, levelling them while going on raids with my Hunter (( I'm new to all that ))

SpiritWarrior 03-08-2006 03:14 AM

Oh god Gnomeregan is a nightmare. I wouldn't mind but it's actually a kind of fascinating instance to look at and explore but the aggro is just disgusting. Try finding a group for it, most will tell you they don't want to set foot in it ever again.

Maraudon is really nice to look at also but I despise the critters there. I love Dire Maul to bits, it's got great visuals and 'events' and is so fast to complete. MC is just crap IMHO. It's kinda cheap too on the effort put in to making the instance...it feels bland.

Luvian 03-08-2006 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Megabot:
Only fun in WOW right now is to make a new char and learn their skills..i am bored too now with this game, have trie GW but interface there kills the fun same is with D&D Online quited the game after 10 minutes :(

The interface in WOW rocks i have never seen better those 2 other games is crap when it come to interface.
So i guess i go back to my 4 char in WOW now a Hunter and get it to lvl 60 too..

And the AQ20 and AQ40 is boring too i have never seen more annoying monsters and stuff like in those instances :(
Best instance i know in this game is Mauradon very nice and cool i still go there only for fun and get some happyness with the game.

I think we need a Starcraft Online now [img]smile.gif[/img] WOS

That's because you're used to the WoW interface. Keep playing other games and you'll get used to their interface. I too didn't like the GW interface at first, but now I like it. I also didn't like the WoW interface at first, there isn't a mmorpg in which I liked the interface and controls from the start.

Timber Loftis 03-08-2006 09:28 AM

I like Maraudon. The purple side is awesome. Especially for a Warlock. "Enslave 1, Banish 1, um.... you guys can kill the little imps on the pull, I got the big ones handled, thanks." Orange Maraudon is annoying, but it teaches you how to kite (if you didn't know already). Later parts of Maraudon are just beautiful.

Dire Maul is gorgeous, too. Another one that caters to the Warlock wanting to get an ego boost.

My guild tried MC last night for the first time. We didn't have a full group, but we wanted to start learning it. Couldn't get past the door. *sigh* Maybe it's time to go guild shopping. In my guild we're all at roughly the same point -- end-game but not doing MC yet, trying to get everyone geared up. I *want* to learn it and develop with these guys, but it'd be easier to dump myself in a guild that's already experienced with it.

Ivelliis 03-08-2006 02:34 PM

We've been raiding ZG for a month or so now, but some of our guild are still in greens mostly (( Myself having only two pieces to change, a Bone Slicing Hatchet and some new gloves ))

We've joined with another raidgroup to do MC, so we're getting everyone attuned/geared up/sorting out times/sorting out DKP etc.

The sky in Stratholme is my favourite part of any instance. It just rocks..

Although I agree, Dire Maul is a great instance.

SpiritWarrior 03-08-2006 04:50 PM

Yeah ZG is fun, I gotta say it. The blood-red sky in strat is cool-looking, I used to always say the same. Scarlet strat is nice too.

Megabot, the GW interface is actually cool. Yes, I was like "what the hell is this?" at first but it is fully customizable (more so than the default in WoW) and it looks sleeker...more modern. It isn't as intuitive to learn as the WoW one is though so it may take you a little longer to get used to it, but give it a chance.


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