I've never really been interesting in multi or dual classed characters since they seemed too complicated to bother with. Now that I know a little bit more about the game I am starting to reconsider the possibilities of multi and dualed characters. How exactly do Hit Points work when gaining levels with multiclass characters? Does the player receive a hit dice roll (respective to the class gaining the level up) of HPs each time he levels with each class?? If this is the case then I am baffled as to why more people don't advocate multiclassing! A dwarven fighter/cleric would have loads of HP!!

However, I'm pretty sure I must have this wrong. Someone please explain it to me http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Also, do the extra bonuses of 17 and higher CON for fighters apply to multiclassed fighters?

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Let's pretend you have a fighter/druid with a 17 Con, ok?
When this pc levels-up as a fighter he will get 1d10(dice roll) PLUS 3(Con bonus) divided by 2(number of classes).>>>(1d10+3)/2
When this pc levels-up as a druid he will get 1d8(dice roll) PLUS 2(non-fighters can get a MAX of 2 bonus HP) divided by 2(number of classes).>>>(1d8+2)/2
Clear as mud, eh?

Actually, one correction to Aces description. Instead of a 2 classed warrior getting 1d10+3/2 in the example given, it is actually 1d10/2 (all fractions rounded down) +3/2 (all fractions rounded down, meaning that with a multi-classed warrior, when they go up in one of their levels their constitution bonus is relatively the same whether they have a 16 or 17 con, though the game may also use a 2/1 method, where the warrior class is given 2 con bonus and the other class is given 1 at the level up...

Still as clear as mud, isn't it?

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That must explain why my Fighter/Thief has really low HP. Level 6 (both) with 27 HP, CON 11. Hmmm... I'm gonna single class my next time... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

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Say you're a fighter/mage, with constitution 18 (I never take any less than 18 because I always want maximum hit points). A fighter's maximum is 14 hp per level, a mage's is 6. So every time you go up a level, your maximum hp would be 10 (14+6/2=10). Similarly, if you were a fighter thief, you would get 11 per level (14+8/2=11). Get it?

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I also have 1 question concerning multiclass characters..

- When you import a multiclassed character into BG2, do you get to choose Kits for the two classes? (I'm pretty sure this is the case with Dual-classed..)

Thanks! ;p^^

[This message has been edited by Therro (edited 07-21-2001).]

Sorry if I sound impatiant, but...

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Im not sure about how will it work but im pretty sure that you CANT get 2 kits in BG2 without cheating (even if you import a dual character as you say), so youll get 1 kit or none.

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Heh, thanks..I was just wondering, cause I've beaten BG, and BGII, but I want to take a character through BG, BGII, and ToB (It'll make him *truly* godlike from tomes, etc. ;p ) I really don't know what I want to play though.

-Cleric/Ranger.
-Druid.
-Cleric.
-Elven Archer of Death and Destruction.
-Fighter/Mage

Edit : Alright, I chose an Elven Fighter/Mage..Now I have 1 question.

-> When he levels up in just *one* of the classes, how many hp should he gain..

E.g Moving from Fighter Level 1/Mage level 1, to Fighter Level 2/Mage Level 1

Note: He's an elf and as such only has 17 con.


[This message has been edited by Therro (edited 07-24-2001).]

Errm, not to sound Impatient again..but bump!

I need to get this info soon. ;x

er...I think it would be up 7max.
This is the way i figure it...
17 con=+3 bonus, right?
fighter=10hp for the max.
3+10=13
13/2 becuz yuou are multiclass=6and1/2
rounded up to 7

plz, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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I believe you would actually have 6 max at a level up, I think they programmed the game mean and made it round down. But you would also get HP when you level up as mage meaning you could get 3 there too:
CON 17 = +3 bonus (as Lioness said)
4+3=7/2=3.5 round down (http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif)=3

I could be wrong too.....

-Jafin

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So I guess if I was a human, or another race with 18 con, I'd gain 10 hp (7 fighter, 3 mage)

Again, thanks for the explanations! ;]~~

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[This message has been edited by Therro (edited 07-25-2001).]

FYI, you only get HALF of your Con bonus per class, so a fighter w/ 18 CON would get 2 hp bonus when the fighter levels, and 2 hp bonus when the other class levels.

so for a fighter mage you start w/ [(10 / 2) +2] + [(4 / 2) +2] = 11. This is how my 2nd ed players guide says it should work, so for fighter max Hp you'd have 7, and mage max hp youd have 4. Note to all: Multi class HP really blow, go buy 3rd ed. not that it'll help us play BG mind you...

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Awww geez, not another chaotic neutral? Where do these people come from anyway?

Hello everyone- I am a rookie.
Anyway, I still don't understand this. So if I was a dwarfen Fighter/Cleric with Constitution 19, when I level up as a Fighter I could get 7 hit points and when I level up as a Cleric I could get 5 ? Or is that still wrong? Thanks to anyone who replies.

The character's race is irrelevant, apart from any Constitution modifiers that certain races (Elves and Dwarves) have. An Elven Fighter with 16 CON can have the exact same HP as a Dwarven Fighter with 16 CON.

Warriors (Fighter, Paladin, Ranger): Number of Levels * (1D10 + CON modifier)
Priests (Cleric, Druid): Number of Levels * (1D8 + CON modifier)
Rogues (Thief, Bard): Number of Levels * (1D6 + CON Modifier)
Wizards (Mage): Number of Levels * (1D4 + CON Modifier)

CON Modifiers are:
15: +1 hp
16: +2 hp (Maximum hitpoint benefit for Priests, Rogues & Wizards)
17: +3 hp
18: +4 hp
19: +5 hp
20: +5 hp

Each time one of your Multiclassed character's halves Levels up, calculate the hp for that half as if it was a regular character, and then divide it by 2, and add that to your current total. For example...
A Dwarven Fighter with 19 CON would get 1D10+5 hp at each new level, and
a Dwarven Cleric with 19 CON would get 1D8+2 hp for each new level.
So the Fighter half of a F/C could expect from 1 to (1D10+5)/2 hitpoints, or 1 to 8 hitpoints, and the Cleric half could expect 1 to 5 hitpoints.

These rules are only for BG1; they get a bit more complicated in BG2. For more info, take the link in my sig.

[ 08-20-2003, 03:46 AM: Message edited by: SixOfSpades ]

Thanks. I think I will stay with just a fighter or just a cleric.