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Spirits forever 03-13-2004 08:34 PM

YEssir this is the age old question, WHO IS BETTER!!!!

This week it is KILIK Vs. NIGHTMARE!!!

NOW IT IS UP TO YOU PEOPLE TO SAY..KILIK OR NIGHTMARE!!!!


btw:L i say kilik :D

[ 03-13-2004, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Spirits forever ]

SomeGuy 03-13-2004 08:47 PM

Dude, how do you even know if the people here know who Nightmare and Kilik are? I know, I have the game, but next time, give an explanation on who these two are. Also, this thread is in the wrong place IMHO.

BTW: Kilik'd whoop his ass. :D

shadowhound 03-13-2004 08:54 PM

Yeah I have no idea what you are talking about :D

Bokken 03-13-2004 09:15 PM

I don't know who they are either but one thing is for sure. Yoda would kick both their butts combined! hehe

Sythe 03-13-2004 10:13 PM

Let me explain

Nightmare and Kilik are two characters in Soul Calibur 2. This is in the wrong forum man.

We all know Nightmare would win! Why? Well Kilik is a stupid guy witha wimpy staff. Which is better a twig or a big ass sword! Kilik may have speed on his side yes but Nightmare has a combonation of both speed and strength.

SomeGuy 03-14-2004 12:40 AM

What the crap, did you just say Nightmare had SPEED? The guy is slow with his attacks because of how much powers he has to put behind them! He's not speedy, he's slow! I did a Battle Theater with them, and Kilik won, so thus, Kilik wins, polls are over. :D But now, we all know who the real heroes are in the end. Mistrugi and Maxi!

The Fallen One 03-14-2004 02:07 AM

Nah, Nightmare kicks ass! :D He is teh best char, cuz he has the strenght and decent speed. Also, he can use Soul Calibur and Soul Edge [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Gnarf 03-14-2004 07:27 AM

Quote:

Which is better a twig or a big ass sword!
Twig!

Niadh 03-14-2004 09:54 AM

Nightmare wins. He is actually relativley fast for his damage output. And he is much cooler than Kilik.

Spirits forever 03-14-2004 10:18 AM

OH MY GOSH!!!..i can't beleive there are actually ppl here who think that Nighmatere...a character who IS OVERPOWERED imop..

and slythe...NIGHTMARE..uses a Big sword and wears heavy armor and STILL losses to Kilik..why..cause he stinks..I mean yeah kilik uses a staff and wears light clothings..But that is enough to beat nightmare..so that shows how strong he is [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sythe 03-14-2004 10:40 AM

Ok Nightmare is not as fast as the idiotic goody two shoes guy. But his speed is decent as The Fallen One and Niadh said. His attacks to a large amount of damage. And Kiliks retarded attacks do much less. One punch would send Kilik flying away! Not to mention one slash of his sword! Plus he is so much cooler. Kiliks dialouge is so cheesy! He is the typical every day good guy anime character! Whilst nightmare is menacing,evil and dangerous!

P.S.
My two favorites is Nightmare and Ralphael

Spirits forever 03-14-2004 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Sythe:
Ok Nightmare is not as fast as the idiotic goody two shoes guy. But his speed is decent as The Fallen One and Niadh said. His attacks to a large amount of damage. And Kiliks retarded attacks do much less. One punch would send Kilik flying away! Not to mention one slash of his sword! Plus he is so much cooler. Kiliks dialouge is so cheesy! He is the typical every day good guy anime character! Whilst nightmare is menacing,evil and dangerous!

P.S.
My two favorites is Nightmare and Ralphael

Now now..lets keepp calms shall we..no need for harsh words..

see, we need an unbaiased person here...look at the way you describe what kilik does and what nightmare does, while kilik you degrade him as much as possible, whil nightmare you,well PRAIse him.. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sythe 03-14-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Spirits forever:
OH MY GOSH!!!..i can't beleive there are actually ppl here who think that Nighmatere...a character who IS OVERPOWERED imop..

and slythe...NIGHTMARE..uses a Big sword and wears heavy armor and STILL losses to Kilik..why..cause he stinks..I mean yeah kilik uses a staff and wears light clothings..But that is enough to beat nightmare..so that shows how strong he is [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Nightmare overpowered you say? Really!

Overpowered characters have more power than regular characters right? Otherwise how would they be overpowered if they cannot defeat regular characters like Kilik?

Jaradu 03-14-2004 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Sythe:
One punch would send Kilik flying away!
Ah, but what use is a strong attack if you can't actually hit the speedy bugger :D ?

[ 03-14-2004, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Jaradu ]

Spirits forever 03-14-2004 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jaradu:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sythe:
One punch would send Kilik flying away!

Ah, but what use is a strong attack if you can't actually hit the speedy bugger :D ? </font>[/QUOTE]oh YEAH, YOU DA MAN JARADU...i NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT...

YEAH what's the use!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sythe 03-14-2004 07:58 PM

Ok I admit that Kilik is speedy. But in the game it is impossible to dodge every attack that is thrown at you, human reflexes are not that capable. Kilik is fast and delivering blows. He can strike from a distance yes but they are only vertical attacks. Which you can easily sidestep and can see it coming from a mile away. He needs to be pretty close to deal his horzontial attacks. Nightmares vertical and horzontil are of fair distance. Not very far but not too close either.

Sagramore 03-14-2004 08:08 PM

Night with the Sould Calibur sword, but Kilik if I'm playing ;)

SomeGuy 03-15-2004 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Sythe:
Ok I admit that Kilik is speedy. But in the game it is impossible to dodge every attack that is thrown at you, human reflexes are not that capable. Kilik is fast and delivering blows. He can strike from a distance yes but they are only vertical attacks. Which you can easily sidestep and can see it coming from a mile away. He needs to be pretty close to deal his horzontial attacks. Nightmares vertical and horzontil are of fair distance. Not very far but not too close either.
Kilik has a crappy dialouge, I'll admit to that. It's very annoying at times, but Soul Edge for Nightmare... Well, complete it just looks really really.. stupid. There's something really wrong with a big mushy thing of eyes, but his Soul Calibur looks awesome! And trust me, I really think Kilik is better. His attacks are faster then Nightmare's and his may do less damage, but more can be dealt in shorter periods of time. I still say Maxi and Mistrugi whoops everyone :D

Timber Loftis 03-15-2004 01:07 AM

Well, given the limited choice, I'd take Kilik - I regularly beat Nightmare with Kilik. Siegfried's coolness is gone, and now he is Nightmare's cheesiness.

Besides, I'll take Xiangua and beat anybody's arse anyday -- she rocks. Have YOU beat every level of Weaponmaster, Have YOU got every special weapon and every special costume? I think not!!

I'll take Xiangua, that's right, a little girl, and cream any of you anyday. If you prefer I'll take Taki -- you're still dead. ;)

SomeGuy 03-15-2004 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Well, given the limited choice, I'd take Kilik - I regularly beat Nightmare with Kilik. Siegfried's coolness is gone, and now he is Nightmare's cheesiness.

Besides, I'll take Xiangua and beat anybody's arse anyday -- she rocks. Have YOU beat every level of Weaponmaster, Have YOU got every special weapon and every special costume? I think not!!

I'll take Xiangua, that's right, a little girl, and cream any of you anyday. If you prefer I'll take Taki -- you're still dead. ;)

Xiangua IS good, a bit annoying, but very good, oh and BTW, I HAVE beat every level of Weaponsmaster and gotten every special weapon and costume, think again dude :D

Gnarf 03-15-2004 02:58 AM

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Kilik has a crappy dialouge, I'll admit to that. It's very annoying at times
"This rod will be your doom!" :D

[ 03-15-2004, 03:01 AM: Message edited by: Gnarf ]

Timber Loftis 03-15-2004 12:16 PM

Actually, SomeGuy, I was sure somebody had. In fact, I haven't. I was just talking schoolyard trash. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

SomeGuy 03-15-2004 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Actually, SomeGuy, I was sure somebody had. In fact, I haven't. I was just talking schoolyard trash. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]
Well, I'm doing it my second time through, damn memory card went on the fritz. [img]tongue.gif[/img] But hey, who else are you good with besides Xiangua?

Timber Loftis 03-15-2004 01:32 PM

Kilik. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img] No, seriously. Taki too. Talim's a fun challenge -- she has to do the backward stance to get my favorite moves. I like Raphael, too. (Raphael's a great cheat when you just want to bull your way through)

Maxi's great for pushing buttons and letting out a constant stream of offensive manuevers, but I CANNOT control him. It's almost like stream-of-consciousness fighting. Mitsirugi is kinda fun, too.

I like Assassin a lot and have supposedly "unlocked" him twice now, but I still can't find his picture or see how I get to play him.

I prefer speed to brute force anyday -- so I do not like to play Astaroth, Berserker, Nightmare, etc.

Lately I'm trying to learn to use Sophita and what's-her-name, the other shield-chick. Seung Mina is fun, too, but I think Kilik's moves are superior.

Sythe 03-15-2004 04:05 PM

"The other shield chick" is Cassandra. And shouldn't this thread be moved to the games disscusion?

Xen 03-15-2004 04:09 PM

I don`t know who these guys are. But anyway Klilk would win. :D


Actually Max Payne with dual Uzi`s would win. :D [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sythe 03-15-2004 04:10 PM

Noooo Flash from Justice Leauge would win! He'd run circles round everyone!

Cerek the Barbaric 03-15-2004 04:51 PM

<font color=deepskyblue>Well I don't have the PS2 version of Soul Caliber 2 (although I admit that game alone is enough to make me want one). I discovered a local store had the arcade version quite by accident and decided to give it a try.

My favorite was Astaroth and that Big Axe of his (then again, what else would you expect from a barbarian :D ). His special attack was easy enough for a novice to learn and I used the discus attack to send many opponents flying clear out of the ring.

I also judge it by my ability with similar games. I never made it past the 2nd round of Mortal Kombat. There is another arcade game similar to Soul Caliber and I did manage to beat the first 3-4 rounds in it...but with Astorath, I could beat the first 5 opponents without really even breaking a sweat.

Of course, the first time I played it, I REALLY took exception to some mamby-pamby karate boy in pajamas being the one that finally beat me with his stupid nunchukas. I mean, come on, at least get a REAL weapon and put on some armor.

Oh well, I absolutely LOVE SC2 - and may even break down to buy a PS2 just to get that one game. If anybody knows of a PC version of Soul Caliber coming out, I would dearly love any info on it.</font>

slicer15 03-15-2004 04:52 PM

Superman! He'd whop everyone! Except if they had kryptonite... [img]tongue.gif[/img] ...

Anyways, I personally like Xiuanga(sp?) too, as well as...*drumroll*...YUNSUNG!! :D His moves rock! He's just so unpredictable...plus I like his weapons.

Link rocks too! Biggorons sword, man! I own anyone with that beast equipped...

I can play well with Nightmare too...but he has no style, really...all he needs to do is slug 'em with his meat cleaver a couple of times, and its over. Not to mention he has some kickass armour. Anyone notice how hard it is to bring his life down?

Oh, and just for the record, I hate Beserkers...stupid b*****d... :D

Dalamar Stormcrow 03-15-2004 05:09 PM

For the record, Berserker is cheaper than Nightmare. Now the real question is...would Mitsurugi w/ Damascus Sword(An INCREDIBLY overpowered sword) or Nightmare(any weapon)? Mitsurugi. I just cheese it up cuz once i land a throw(he has most powerful throw and most powerful legendary weapon), its over.

Dalamar Stormcrow 03-15-2004 05:13 PM

I mean the afore said Mitsurig's Triangle, X throw brings em down to half- health. Only one who can come somewhat close to that is Taki w/ Kris Naga. Everybody is cheesy in their own way [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Night Stalker 03-15-2004 05:14 PM

Bah! Neither! I prefer Sophitia, Taki, and Ivy! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] Oh yeah! And they fight well too! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Dalamar Stormcrow 03-15-2004 05:20 PM

Anyone with a shield can win in 5 sec. Now THAT is cheesy [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Night Stalker 03-15-2004 05:28 PM

You should see some of Ivy's combos! Range, speed, AND power! Plus defensive switches if dodged. They're damn hard to execute, but pure poetry! Must be the combo of FM Boots, leather, and a whip .... [img]graemlins/1drool.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

[ 03-15-2004, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: Night Stalker ]

Spirits forever 03-15-2004 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Night Stalker:
You should see some of Ivy's combos! Range, speed, AND power! Plus defensive switches if dodged. They're damn hard to execute, but pure poetry! Must be the combo of FM Boots, leather, and a whip .... [img]graemlins/1drool.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]
lol
:D

SomeGuy 03-15-2004 11:42 PM

I'd say Yoshimitsu's fun to use. His moves are crazy, like this one, you stab through yourself to stab the apponent, funny as hell. :D

Timber Loftis 03-16-2004 12:35 AM

Yoshimitsu's move where he "stabs through himself" is, IIRC, an under-the-arm stab, and it combos quite nicely after the diving sword stab, when your opponent is naturally behind you.

Gnarf 03-16-2004 02:19 AM

As Kikik's the only char I've bothered learning some moves with, I tend to just spin around all the time when playing as Yoshimitsu.

Lei Fei'd kick any SC chars arse, btw.

Sir Exxon 03-16-2004 03:54 AM

Nightmare would win. Easily. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

The best of them all, though, is Cervantes. At least when I'm controlling him. :D

Timber Loftis 03-16-2004 09:53 AM

Cervantes is an especially stinky kind of cheese -- the kind that smells like gym socks.


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