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Malavon's Rage 07-29-2002 04:48 PM

How can you make a mage cast spells faster besides haste and such, i always notice Iranicus and mages of the like to cast spells one after another without the break in between.

another question, i just got this game and was wondering, does Iranicus join you party(i doubt it but i guess its worth asking:)

Kaltia 07-29-2002 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Malavon's Rage:
How can you make a mage cast spells faster besides haste and such, i always notice Iranicus and mages of the like to cast spells one after another without the break in between.

another question, i just got this game and was wondering, does Iranicus join you party(i doubt it but i guess its worth asking:)

Welcome to the BG forums [img]smile.gif[/img]

answer to question number 1) there is no way to erase the gap between casting spells until you have a mage powerful enough to cast improved alcrity, a ToB spell.
2) No irenicus won't join you but
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In the ToB mod ascenion, his vampiric "sister" Bodhi will if you have an evil party and your Bhaalspawn promises her his soul.

Zarr 07-29-2002 04:55 PM

Nope Irencius can't join your party. You'll never be able to cast spells as fast as Irencius but there are some items that let you cast faster. These are:
Robe Of Venca- bought from deidre in the back of the adventutrers mart(only if you have TOB or the bonuse merchants installed)
Amulet of power-continue the story and you should be able to get this.
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This is given to you by Aran Linvail the Shadowmaster of the shadow thieves so if you want it you'll have to side with them.

Malavon's Rage 07-29-2002 05:00 PM

thanx

Dundee Slaytern 07-30-2002 03:10 AM

Just a little note that Haste does not improve your casting speed. You just wave your hands faster. ;)

LennonCook 07-30-2002 04:11 AM

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This is given to you by Aran Linvail the Shadowmaster of the shadow thieves so if you want it you'll have to side with them.
<font color="lightblue">Not necesarily.
If you side with Bodhi, you get to fight Aran anyway, and get the items he`s carrying. This includes what he gives you if you side with him, and a bit more. </font>

bloodmage11 07-30-2002 09:54 AM

sorcerers cast faster then mages thats half why irenicus casts so fast and hes at a high level...

Dundee Slaytern 07-30-2002 11:04 AM

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sorcerers cast faster then mages thats half why irenicus casts so fast and hes at a high level...
Wrong on both counts.

Sorcerers and Mages have the same base casting speed.

Jon Irenicus is not a Sorcerer, according to game code anyway. He is a Mage if I remember correctly.

He wears the Robe of Vecna and some funky ring that grants him permanent Improved Alacrity... ...

bloodmage11 07-30-2002 11:08 AM

i know im desperate but can somebody help me im a lv12 mage that cant beat 4 mind flayers and 2 umberhulks can anyone help?pleases im so desperate.

bloodmage11 07-30-2002 11:11 AM

irenicus is a sorcerer acording to ed greenwoods book bg2 but i stand corrected you are right dundee slaytern sorry i miscalculated malavons revenge

bloodmage11 07-30-2002 11:13 AM

but i do remember the phrase mad mage that refered to jon irenicus this is confusing

Kaltia 07-30-2002 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by bloodmage11:
i know im desperate but can somebody help me im a lv12 mage that cant beat 4 mind flayers and 2 umberhulks can anyone help?pleases im so desperate.
Soloing?

andrewas 07-30-2002 04:12 PM

Soling? Level 12 Mage? 4 'thids and 2 'hulks?

Please, PLEASE, tell me your not in the underdark. Assuming your in the athkatla sewers, you can back out and come back later. If your in the underdark its possible to do the Kua-Toa and Beholder dungeons, both of which should be possible for a solo mage whos been through the sahaugin city. And you should do gain a few levels as well.

But at that level I dont think you have been through the sahaugin city. In fact, Dundee, how possible is it to get to the underdark solo at level 12? Thats low for a party isnt it?

Morgeruat 07-30-2002 04:16 PM

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irenicus is a sorcerer acording to ed greenwoods book bg2 but i stand corrected you are right dundee slaytern sorry i miscalculated malavons revenge
in most literature sorceror and mage/wizard are used interchangeably the difference was never important until bg2 and 3rd edition d&d

Illumina Drathiran'ar 07-30-2002 05:45 PM

Blood, if you're in the Underdark with a solo mage at level 12.. Well, if you managed to get there, you might be able to pull it off. But if you don't use a LOT of strategy and careful planning you might be screwed. But I think it's possible.. After all, getting there is half the fun/difficulty.

Dundee Slaytern 07-31-2002 02:59 AM

He is not soloing, refer to his other thread. You will have to offer me a million dollars to even think about soloing the Illithid City in the Underdark with any level 12 character.
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Well... it is slightly possible, but you need to use the <font color="white">Misled Exploit</font> and Melf's Minute Meteors. Will need a Ring of Free Action( or Potions of Freedom) and some Potions of Clarity as well.

So a level 12 Mage/Sorcerer can technically defeat the entire complex. The amount of cheese needed though, is very high.
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If you want to really, really, really reek of cheese, use Wands of Cloudkill. http://216.40.241.68/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif

I think a fight won through Wands of Cloudkill is not a win well-earned though.

Malavon's Rage 07-31-2002 03:17 PM

in the second post Keltia noted that Bodhi joins your party if you have an evil party, do you mean your whole party must have an evil alignment? and what do you mean Bhaalspawn?

Dundee Slaytern 08-01-2002 05:44 AM

1) Usually only the PC needs to be the evil one.

2) Bhaalspawns are the offspring of Bhaal and his mortal hosts, your PC is one of them.

Shadowfax 08-01-2002 07:54 PM

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If you want to really, really, really reek of cheese, use Wands of Cloudkill. http://216.40.241.68/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif

I think a fight won through Wands of Cloudkill is not a win well-earned though.[/QB]
Man, do you know how much I hate fighting beholders? I mean, one or two are fine, but when you have like three and a couple of gauths, I just use cloud kill. I really hate them. I don't use cloudkill other than that because it is cheesey... and it cheeses me off. (Hah! Bad pun! -kicks self-)

Illumina Drathiran'ar 08-01-2002 09:47 PM

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So a level 12 Mage/Sorcerer can technically defeat the entire complex. The amount of cheese needed though, is very high.
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If you want to really, really, really reek of cheese, use Wands of Cloudkill. http://216.40.241.68/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif

I think a fight won through Wands of Cloudkill is not a win well-earned though.

Man, do you know how much I hate fighting beholders? I mean, one or two are fine, but when you have like three and a couple of gauths, I just use cloud kill. I really hate them. I don't use cloudkill other than that because it is cheesey... and it cheeses me off. (Hah! Bad pun! -kicks self-)[/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]All you need to do is waltz around with the Shield of Balduran and reflect all their rays.. but if you have the Sola Mod and Improved Battles they're smart and either target the other members or bite.. But they're not that dangerous if they bite.. Not nearly as dangerous as when they shoot rays, at least.

Jon Irenicus 08-02-2002 06:57 AM

Dude, if u don't have the Shield of Balduran , u can also use the Cloak of Mirrors in SoA to reflect all their attacks... That is so much fun, just stand in the middle while 10 Beholder cast spells at u and get killed at the same time when u aren't doing anything!!!

SixOfSpades 08-03-2002 12:41 AM

I'll use Cloudkill Wands on Mind Flayers, but only after I've trapped them in a little room so they can't escape the gas. Mind Flayers are supposed to be extremely intelligent, so I treat them like they are. Wands bypassing their Magic Resistance is cheesy? So? They can fire their Psionic Blasts through walls, over half the map area away, and at characters they haven't even seen yet. I think I'm justified. Personal preference, tough, of course.

I won't use the Shield of Balduran, although I do use the Cloak, as it's the only thing that can stop their damned Anti-Magic Rays. I HATE those damned Rays! No matter WHAT protection spells I might have up, one Anti-Magic Ray cancels them all. Grrrrr......

Jon Irenicus 08-03-2002 01:06 AM

That's where the useful Cloak of Mirrors comes in!!! I love the cloak, I can get rid of anything except for that thing... That's what protects u from Irenicus when fighting him...


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