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Megabot 12-06-2003 09:52 AM

Yeah do you? I dont even have one so maybe that is why my spelling is bad lol :D

[ 12-06-2003, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: Megabot ]

Firestormalpha 12-06-2003 10:53 AM

Your spelling is fine so far, but the grammar could use a little work. But that's just me nitpicking. Sad thing is that many people who take English as a second language learn it better than we do. Scary, no?

Mouse 12-06-2003 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Megabot:
Yeah do you? i dont even have one so maybe that is way my spelling is bad lol :D
Not a bad effort there. Capitalise the "i" and replace "way" with "why" and it would be perfect ;)

Dundee Slaytern 12-06-2003 12:24 PM

Standard British English is my first language, and I do use dictionaries. Both the book and online ones, whichever is more convenient. Whenever my "Spellcheck Senses" tingle, I refer to a dictionary to verify the spelling.

Ghoul 12-06-2003 01:38 PM

I learned english for about 10 years in school and I love to watch films or play games in english (you can say that I am an "angliophile"). But I don't use a dictionary (mostly because I'm too lazy to get up from my chair, cross the room and pick it up ;) ). If I can't think of the words I need, I try to circumvent them and describe the things I want to say 'the alternative way' (like now [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] ).

Stratos 12-06-2003 01:40 PM

Yes, occasionally, but I tend to have more problem with grammar than spelling. There's that little voice in the back of my head that tells me what I'm about to type is wrong. It does not, however, tell me the correct spelling and grammar, the cheap bastard. :D

Xen 12-06-2003 02:29 PM

No. I speak English fluently(is that a word anyway) and my spelling is also very good. [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

Bozos of Bones 12-06-2003 02:40 PM

I use a dictionary only if I really need to. I speak excellent english, write with almost no grammar errors or misspellings. I'm such an "anglophil" that sometimes I even find myself thinking on english. How weird is that?

Megabot 12-06-2003 06:00 PM

Okay Mouse now it should be wery good i think, i'll learn and that is good, i did not know that we had to have an big "I" after an question mark but now i do lol [img]tongue.gif[/img]

pcgiant 12-06-2003 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Megabot:
Okay Mouse now it should be wery good i think, i'll learn and that is good, i did not know that we had to have an big "I" after an question mark but now i do lol [img]tongue.gif[/img]
:D Whenever you have the letter i by itself, it should always be an I. I'm not sure why.

Also, in your first sentence, there should've been an apostrophe in dont (ie don't) but that's just me being a perfectionist.

Bozos of Bones 12-06-2003 06:23 PM

I, as in "myself". In old british english you, myself, he and the like was all spelled with a capital first letter(You, Myself, He...) indicating a person. Only "I" and "He" remain today, one meaning "me", the other "God".

Yorick 12-06-2003 08:18 PM

Megabot... if you write wery instead of Very one more time, I think I'm going to completely lose it.

Haven't people told you before?? V E R Y, not w. V. The english W is an ooah sound, whereas V is the voiced F. (F with a note from your vocal chords)

Think Ferry with a voiced F. VERY.

The way you're writing it, wery sounds like ooerry.

Jorath Calar 12-06-2003 10:51 PM

I bet he's wery sorry Yorick... [img]graemlins/hidesbehindsofa.gif[/img] :D

Davros 12-07-2003 02:56 AM

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Originally posted by Megabot:
Yeah do you? I dont even have one so maybe that is why my spelling is bad lol :D
Strewth cobber, I'm with you blue - I'm no pom either as you can prolly tell and trust me matey that's fair dinkum. I gets buy just bonzer without no diction-fairy, they just aren't all that VERY much needed in these parts heareabouts. If yer havin trouble with the English pal then you could perraps give "strine" a go [img]smile.gif[/img] .

WillowIX 12-07-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Yorick:
Haven't people told you before?? V E R Y, not w. V. The english W is an ooah sound, whereas V is the voiced F. (F with a note from your vocal chords)

Ooh phonetics. But "ooah"? [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D LOL *cough* English *cough*

Megabot, if you worry about your spelling then install IeSpell. [img]smile.gif[/img] You will be able to check your spelling, not your grammar though, before you post.

Stratos 12-07-2003 07:57 AM

Be wary of wery, Megabot.

Donut 12-07-2003 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Davros:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Megabot:
Yeah do you? I dont even have one so maybe that is why my spelling is bad lol :D

Strewth cobber, I'm with you blue - I'm no pom either as you can prolly tell and trust me matey that's fair dinkum. I gets buy just bonzer without no diction-fairy, they just aren't all that VERY much needed in these parts heareabouts. If yer havin trouble with the English pal then you could perraps give "strine" a go [img]smile.gif[/img] . </font>[/QUOTE]We make allowances for those of you who don't have english as their first language Davros!

Donut 12-07-2003 08:02 AM

"Do you all not english people use an dictionary? "

Thankfully there is an tax on syn in english

[ 12-07-2003, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]

Davros 12-07-2003 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
We make allowances for those of you who don't have english as their first language Davros!
Thasverdecenovyu yeragoodsortreelynnotabitstuckup [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

On a side note - I see we are satrting to replenish our trophy cabinet. Davis Cup (Tennis) and Champions Trophy (Women's Hockey) since we last talked [img]smile.gif[/img] .

[ 12-07-2003, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: Davros ]

slicer15 12-07-2003 12:40 PM

Yeah, people who learn English as a second language learn all the rules of grammar, whereas most people who learn English as a second language don't. I know I have no idea about the names of certain words and the basic structure of a sentence, yet I simply know how to write one. It's the same with my German - I can speak and write it fine (though I have a little difficulty with the grammar) but I have no clue on the rules of how to structure a German sentence.

Yorick 12-07-2003 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by WillowIX:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yorick:
Haven't people told you before?? V E R Y, not w. V. The english W is an ooah sound, whereas V is the voiced F. (F with a note from your vocal chords)

Ooh phonetics. But "ooah"? [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D LOL *cough* English *cough*

Megabot, if you worry about your spelling then install IeSpell. [img]smile.gif[/img] You will be able to check your spelling, not your grammar though, before you post.
</font>[/QUOTE]Originally the double u (w) was more OOh. Think two "U"s. In Welsh, names like Pwyl carry on that sound. Pooill.

The "wah" sound is the effect of ending the ooh. Think "ooat is that?" Shortening the ooh sound leaves us with just the wah.

*******NB: How hard is it writing phonetics!!!!!!!!!!

Stratos 12-07-2003 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slicer15:
Yeah, people who learn English as a second language learn all the rules of grammar, whereas most people who learn English as a second language don't. I know I have no idea about the names of certain words and the basic structure of a sentence, yet I simply know how to write one. It's the same with my German - I can speak and write it fine (though I have a little difficulty with the grammar) but I have no clue on the rules of how to structure a German sentence.
The meaning of terms like noun, adjective, past present etc. is universal to all lanuages. A noun is always a noun, so if you know what it means in one language you can then apply it to others. It pays of to learn these terms in the long run.

mistral4543 12-07-2003 07:14 PM

Well, we have been using English over here both as the medium for imparting knowledge in the education system, as well as the official language in the workplace. Due to the emphasis on the use of English, I have become more comfortable with English than with my mother tongue, and this rather saddens me.

I generally do not use the dictionary unless I am writing a report in which I do not wish to repeat the use of the same word. In such instances, I refer to the thesaurus for synonyms.

Megabot 12-07-2003 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
Megabot... if you write wery instead of Very one more time, I think I'm going to completely lose it.

Haven't people told you before?? V E R Y, not w. V. The english W is an ooah sound, whereas V is the voiced F. (F with a note from your vocal chords)

Think Ferry with a voiced F. VERY.

The way you're writing it, wery sounds like ooerry.

Thanks Yorick now i know that it shall be written "VERY" and not WERY! :D

Loudhy 12-08-2003 07:52 AM

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.I don't use a dictionary to write words correctly.I believe, I do not make many mistakes ( I have more problems with grammar ).
I use a dictionary,if I need to translate words from german to english I rarely use in normal life ( my schoolyard days are LONG gone [img]graemlins/crying.gif[/img] ).
[img]graemlins/monster5.gif[/img]

Kakero 12-08-2003 10:25 AM

me genius, me no use dictioneri. :D

Ar-Cunin 12-08-2003 12:03 PM

English is my second language - and I do have a Danish-English dictionary at hand.

I just rarely need to use it [img]smile.gif[/img]

dplax 12-08-2003 01:17 PM

I never use a dictionary, but I guess that is normal since one of my parents is english.

[ 12-08-2003, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: dplax ]

NiceWorg 12-08-2003 02:03 PM

Ahh.. the topic hits me like a dart in my back. Since my laziness and the holes in Finnish educational system, I haven´t been teached any English for 5 years. I am forgetting words, and since I began using an online-dictionary, my memory has became lazier and doesn´t even try to search the right words.

I tell you, it´s dangerous. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Luvian 12-08-2003 02:04 PM

www.dictionary.com is probably my most visited page.

johnny 12-08-2003 02:22 PM

I only use this one, it has been of great help many times.

Donut 12-09-2003 06:44 AM

I use an english-dutch dictionary but it isn't that good. There is apparently no word in dutch for the english word 'gullible'

Deejax 12-09-2003 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
I use an english-dutch dictionary but it isn't that good. There is apparently no word in dutch for the english word 'gullible'
Onnozel?
[edit] hmm, effe opgezocht in mijn woordenboek: "makkelijk beet te nemen" (duh), "lichtgelovig" (nooit van gehoord) en onnozel (yeah)

On topic:
I only use the dictionary when writing english letters at work. It is kind of important not to make (too many ;) ) mistakes.

[ 12-09-2003, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: Deejax ]

Donut 12-09-2003 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deejax:
It is kind of important not to make (to many ;) ) mistakes.
That would be "too many" ;) j/k


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